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Re: Hahaha college debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #100 on: July 02, 2023, 08:43:56 PM »
Not as much to milk. I did an industrial program: Plumbing, Electrical and Carpentry. The whole thing took a year.

A lot of the learning is on the job from the veterans.

Employer liability is just off the charts under Australian labor law. The risk vs reward in construction makes the decision to hire a slam dunk Hell No.

Guys do it but they're living on thin ice every day. You wouldn't believe the retarded shit going on here. Ladders are illegal. Too dangerous. Heights over something like 2 feet you have to erect a scaffold complete with toeboards, handrails, safety compliants means of access, you may need to hire a professional licensed scaffolder, etc. Anything you plug in has to be inspected by a licensed guy 4 times a year and display a quarterly compliance tag. Extension cords can't be on the ground because someone might trip over it. Reems of paperwork constantly needing update. It's basically impossible to be in full compliance and any corporate veil is irrelevant in the event of an injury. Some doofus falls over and hurts himself or doesn't hold onto the grinder hard enough and you can lose everything.

How do you drywall and finish a stairwell under these regulations? Crawl around in a roofspace to regrout an old horsehair ceiling? It's simply not realistic and the kid has to produce $60/hr just for me to break even after all the costs and fees associated with him.

Just hell no.


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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #101 on: July 02, 2023, 09:04:06 PM »
Add to that the young men here are wads of cookie dough. They're 20yo geriatrics. They're like veal. Dimbulb, unmotivated, expensive veal.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #102 on: July 02, 2023, 11:03:56 PM »
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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #103 on: July 03, 2023, 07:15:58 AM »

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Re: Hahaha college debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #104 on: July 03, 2023, 07:31:49 AM »
Employer liability is just off the charts under Australian labor law. The risk vs reward in construction makes the decision to hire a slam dunk Hell No.

Guys do it but they're living on thin ice every day. You wouldn't believe the retarded shit going on here. Ladders are illegal. Too dangerous. Heights over something like 2 feet you have to erect a scaffold complete with toeboards, handrails, safety compliants means of access, you may need to hire a professional licensed scaffolder, etc. Anything you plug in has to be inspected by a licensed guy 4 times a year and display a quarterly compliance tag. Extension cords can't be on the ground because someone might trip over it. Reems of paperwork constantly needing update. It's basically impossible to be in full compliance and any corporate veil is irrelevant in the event of an injury. Some doofus falls over and hurts himself or doesn't hold onto the grinder hard enough and you can lose everything.

How do you drywall and finish a stairwell under these regulations? Crawl around in a roofspace to regrout an old horsehair ceiling? It's simply not realistic and the kid has to produce $60/hr just for me to break even after all the costs and fees associated with him.

Just hell no.

Over the top regulations like this,in any field, hurt the smaller businesses the most as they don’t have the resources for compliance like the  big companies.


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Re: Hahaha college debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #105 on: July 03, 2023, 08:20:15 AM »
Over the top regulations like this,in any field, hurt the smaller businesses the most as they don’t have the resources for compliance like the  big companies.

My tinfoil says insurance companies, whose product is mandatory, have influenced legislation to be so impossibly convoluted and onerous that complete compliance is impossible, which permits them to pay or reject claims at their whim.

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Re: Hahaha college debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #106 on: July 04, 2023, 12:40:54 AM »
Over the top regulations like this,in any field, hurt the smaller businesses the most as they don’t have the resources for compliance like the  big companies.
They have used these regulations to shut down a lot of small family farms.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #107 on: July 04, 2023, 03:42:35 AM »
Joe's original plan wasn't that good anyway.  Those with big loan debt would still be on the hook for most of it.

Most of those big loans were from non-government sources.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/24/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-student-loan-relief-for-borrowers-who-need-it-most/

"The Department of Education will provide up to $20,000 in debt cancellation to Pell Grant recipients with loans held by the Department of Education, and up to $10,000 in debt cancellation to non-Pell Grant recipients. Borrowers are eligible for this relief if their individual income is less than $125,000 ($250,000 for married couples). "

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #108 on: July 04, 2023, 08:14:25 AM »
So you can’t participate in society without this piece of paper, a diploma. But when you do get it, you
find out it’s worthless.

It’s almost identical to the vaccine scam. In one case, the Universities have no liability; on the other, the drug companies.

The more I think about it, it’s the universities that should be giving the money back.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #109 on: July 05, 2023, 12:34:38 AM »
So you can’t participate in society without this piece of paper, a diploma. But when you do get it, you
find out it’s worthless.

It’s almost identical to the vaccine scam. In one case, the Universities have no liability; on the other, the drug companies.

The more I think about it, it’s the universities that should be giving the money back.
The universities should have required students to major in something that was profitable or at least discouraged students from majoring in worthless shit. They don't because they have a huge administrative staff and college professors that teach worthless shit that need to get paid. Many of these worthless degree holders just stay at the university to teach because no one would ever hire them outside of academia.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #110 on: July 05, 2023, 03:45:14 AM »
The universities should have required students to major in something that was profitable or at least discouraged students from majoring in worthless shit. They don't because they have a huge administrative staff and college professors that teach worthless shit that need to get paid. Many of these worthless degree holders just stay at the university to teach because no one would ever hire them outside of academia.

That's where most of them get squeezed. There are only so many teaching or admin jobs available at the university, and only so many DEI jobs available within various corporate or government HR offices, so the majority end up at Starbucks.
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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #111 on: July 05, 2023, 06:57:14 AM »
So you can’t participate in society without this piece of paper, a diploma. But when you do get it, you
find out it’s worthless.

It’s almost identical to the vaccine scam. In one case, the Universities have no liability; on the other, the drug companies.

The more I think about it, it’s the universities that should be giving the money back.


Via funding universities are just an information arm of The Deep State. The results back that up. They don't teach anyone to think critically, they teach them how to think within the guidelines.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #112 on: July 05, 2023, 12:23:30 PM »
So you can’t participate in society without this piece of paper, a diploma. But when you do get it, you
find out it’s worthless.

It’s almost identical to the vaccine scam. In one case, the Universities have no liability; on the other, the drug companies.

The more I think about it, it’s the universities that should be giving the money back.

Then how about audits of where the students spent their student loan money?

Let’s say…if any of the loan money was spent on anything other than tuition, books, student housing etc. (essential student needs) then that portion of the debt gets moved over to a separate account with credit card interest rates.

The money spent on essential student needs remains at 1/2 the current interest rates.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #113 on: July 05, 2023, 11:38:51 PM »
That's where most of them get squeezed. There are only so many teaching or admin jobs available at the university, and only so many DEI jobs available within various corporate or government HR offices, so the majority end up at Starbucks.
Yeah, a lot of people competing for those professorships.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #114 on: July 05, 2023, 11:53:58 PM »
So you can’t participate in society without this piece of paper, a diploma. But when you do get it, you
find out it’s worthless.

Yep, I was told exactly this and found out exactly this.

Mind you I’m surrounded by degrees and MBA people, I have no paper and am retarded yet I am heavily relied upon and highly trusted.

Then how about audits of where the students spent their student loan money?

Let’s say…if any of the loan money was spent on anything other than tuition, books, student housing etc. (essential student needs) then that portion of the debt gets moved over to a separate account with credit card interest rates.

The money spent on essential student needs remains at 1/2 the current interest rates.

Audits aren’t coming but CBSCs are which solve all of this. You can program everything into CBDC, expenditure and also interest rates on specific expenditure.

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #115 on: July 07, 2023, 11:19:12 AM »

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Re: Supreme Court - College debt forgiveness struck down
« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2023, 09:59:03 AM »
When you appoint a racist, activist Justice based only on color and not merit….it could be argued this ruling proves this decision even more. She couldn’t even define what a woman is. She owns herself

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/justice-ketanji-jacksons-faulty-claim-affirmative-action-case-takes-another-hit-lawyers-clarify-brief