Democrat's & Biden supporters

[Primemuscle]

How many jobs did those corporations create?  Corporations try and pay the fewest amount of taxes possible, because they distribute income to shareholders, officers, directors, and employees at year end to lower the amount they owe.  The people receiving those distributions pay taxes on those distributions, so citing the liberal “fair share”/corporations paying “zero” in taxes talking point is grossly misleading.

It also doesn’t account for the approximately half of U.S. employees who don’t pay any federal income tax.

And “effective tax rates” are another misleading liberal talking point, often used by Soros.  People who become wealthy often ultimately earn much of their income through investments, which are taxed at a lower rate than payroll income.  So yes their “effective” tax rates will be lower.  But they are still paying the overwhelming majority of taxes in this country. 

Still, none of that makes your opposition to slashing the corporate tax rate any more reasonable.  It’s not.

If I read what you wrote correctly, corporations should be taxed at a lower rate because they distribute their earnings to (among other people), their employees, half of whom do not pay any federal income tax.  Makes perfect sense. So, if half the employees pay no income tax and corporations are taxed at a lower rate and sometimes pay no federal corporate tax, who is paying federal income tax? Are not the half not paying income tax those who earn the least and are thus in the lowest tax bracket? (see below)

A few points worth noting:
•   Like you said, more than half of American households paid no federal income tax last year due to Covid-relief funds, tax credits and stimulus. Usually, it is somewhere around 42% of households. However, not all households have earned income.

•   And then there is this. Since most workers pay payroll taxes, the share of Americans who pay neither payroll nor federal income taxes was only 19% in 2021, slightly higher than the 17% rate before the crisis.

•   At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it appears to be the product of long-standing tax breaks preserved or expanded by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) as well as the CARES Act tax breaks enacted in the spring of 2020.

Tax brackets for income earned in 2023
37% for incomes over $578,125 ($693,750 for married couples filing jointly)
35% for incomes over $231,250 ($462,500 for married couples filing jointly)
32% for incomes over $182,100 ($364,200 for married couples filing jointly)
24% for incomes over $95,375 ($190,750 for married couples filing jointly)
22% for incomes over $44,725 ($89,450 for married couples filing jointly)
12% for incomes over $11,000 ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)
10% for incomes of $11,000 or less ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)

[illuminati]

If you’re a pacifist at heart then how can you be opposed to what Trump accomplished during his presidency?  What other president in your lifetime avoided getting us into any kind of military conflict?  Got North Korea to stand down.  China was muted.  Russia did nothing.  Took back all the ground we lost in Iraq and Syria in less than one year.  Got us to zero combat deaths in Afghanistan.  And the Abraham Accords? 

And to answer your question, if Trump were POTUS then I seriously doubt Russia would have invaded Ukraine.

Surely even the staunch Donald haters have begrudgingly nod muted approval
At those accomplishments - No bombing of other countries !!

Obuma bombed 7  & Pedo pete is in a proxy war with Russia , whats going to do
When China go into Taiwan??

[illuminati]

All I know is there is too much irrelevancy on Getbig. 

There's 2 main protagonists & 1 is posting on this thread 

The other is a Mensa member & wears his wife's pants & continually post horrible
Pics of his lopsided & deformed body.

[illuminati]

I am essentially a pacifist at heart. War never makes me happy. War reflects badly on humans. You'd think after thousands of years of tribal wars humans would have learned something... apparently not.

Have you considered how Trump might have responded in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine in an escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War and NATO (U.S. allies) got more heavily involved with helping the Ukrainians defend their country?

Personally, I don't believe if Russian wins the war with the Ukraine, Putin and Russia will end the aggression. If I lived on your side of the globe as does my son and family, I would be even more concerned than I already am about this.

I am concerned at whats going on - it appears NATO / America are deliberately pushing
& poking to escalate the war - if it goes nuclear then wherever you are you're in grave danger.

Where's the push for peace talks ?

[illuminati]

Ok.  Here goes.

Congress tried to repeal Obamacare but got stymied by Senator John McCain.  Then the spineless Republicans did nothing about it.  Yes Trump was helping to lead the charge, but you cannot call it a "policy" if nothing ever happened.  It's a bad law anyway that was passed by outright lies told by President Obama.  He specifically told members of Congress that the mandate was not a tax, which convinced Democrats to vote for it.  Then when it was challenged, he argued that it was a tax, which is how the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare.  Obama also repeatedly lied about "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period."  He knew at the time he was making those statements that they were developing administrative rules that would prohibit many people from choosing their own doctor.  So the entire foundation of Obamacare is based on lies.   

There was no Muslim ban.  The countries on the list of banned people came from Obama, and it wasn't based on religion.  That's really an outdated, completely false talking point. 

Trump made tremendous improvements with border security.  We were actually deporting illegal aliens under Trump.  Under Biden, illegal immigration has skyrocketed.  It's a crisis.  This is not a close call.   

Have no idea what "consumer protection laws" were attacked by Trump?

I haven't really followed the "Every Student Succeeds Act," but my cursory review shows it moved more accountability from the federal government to the states.  That's a good thing.  Education should be handled at the lowest level possible.  The feds have done little to help our kids.  They need to get out of the way.

The corporate tax cuts were absolutely necessary and incredibly beneficial.  We had the highest corporate tax rate in the world.  Lowering the tax rate from 35 to 21 percent help create one of the best American economies in our history.  And the rate should have actually been lower.  Keep in mind that reducing the cost of business reduces the cost of goods and services for consumers.  When government increases the costs of doing business, business passes those increased costs to consumers. 

I haven't looked at the "100 Environment rules" that were rolled back, but I challenge Prime or anyone else to identify what those rules were and how rolling them back harmed the country. 

Withdrawing from anything Obama got us into was a good thing including the Paris Climate Accords.  It's an unrealistic mandate. 

Trump was the first president I can remember who actually held China accountable for their spying and trade imbalances.  It was awesome to have someone finally fighting back.  Now we have a family doing nothing, except collecting bags of cash from China, allowing they to fly spy balloons across the entire friggin country, and otherwise kissing their rear end. 

Trump's judiciary appointments were, overall, outstanding.  Especially his Supreme Court appointments.  That might be his most important legacy.

But to each his own.  People have to vote for the person they believe will do the best job to lead the country.

There should be a total Muslim ban in all non Islamic countries
Stop that filthy cancer getting in & destroying from within.

[Agnostic007]

Ahha we have another respondent .

So there are 6 things you didn't like - plus you don't like him as a person is very clear.

Would you want Pedo Pete on your son's school board ?
And i'll be surprised if you say he's the kind of person you want representing you country.

 I listed 6 things I didn't like as a general example. There are more but my main point has and will be for ME, Presidents have not impacted my life very much with their policies. I agree and disagree with some of them.

For Me, Biden is not a loose cannon. We should all know North Korea and Russia are not our friends. Putin was 10 X more savvy than Trump in regards to manipulation. Kissing up to him was a mistake.

I've said more than once Biden is a place holder. I think it is enormously sad that Trump and Biden were our ultimate choices. If it happens again I will reluctantly vote what I feel is the lesser of two evils, not being excited or happy about the choice. 

Your question is a valid one that I thought deserved an answer. I know going in, not everyone would agree with my answer. And that's ok. That's why we have more than one party. Not everyone will agree what's best for the country

[Dos Equis]

If I read what you wrote correctly, corporations should be taxed at a lower rate because they distribute their earnings to (among other people), their employees, half of whom do not pay any federal income tax.  Makes perfect sense. So, if half the employees pay no income tax and corporations are taxed at a lower rate and sometimes pay no federal corporate tax, who is paying federal income tax? Are not the half not paying income tax those who earn the least and are thus in the lowest tax bracket? (see below)

A few points worth noting:
•   Like you said, more than half of American households paid no federal income tax last year due to Covid-relief funds, tax credits and stimulus. Usually, it is somewhere around 42% of households. However, not all households have earned income.

•   And then there is this. Since most workers pay payroll taxes, the share of Americans who pay neither payroll nor federal income taxes was only 19% in 2021, slightly higher than the 17% rate before the crisis.

•   At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it appears to be the product of long-standing tax breaks preserved or expanded by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) as well as the CARES Act tax breaks enacted in the spring of 2020.

Tax brackets for income earned in 2023
37% for incomes over $578,125 ($693,750 for married couples filing jointly)
35% for incomes over $231,250 ($462,500 for married couples filing jointly)
32% for incomes over $182,100 ($364,200 for married couples filing jointly)
24% for incomes over $95,375 ($190,750 for married couples filing jointly)
22% for incomes over $44,725 ($89,450 for married couples filing jointly)
12% for incomes over $11,000 ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)
10% for incomes of $11,000 or less ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)

Typical exchange with you:

Me:  The sky is blue.
You:  So you’re saying the sky is red? 

[Primemuscle]

Surely even the staunch Donald haters have begrudgingly nod muted approval
At those accomplishments - No bombing of other countries !!

Obuma bombed 7  & Pedo pete is in a proxy war with Russia , whats going to do
When China go into Taiwan??

While I don't dispute any of what you posted, it is important to note that the need for the U.S. employ military force is based on circumstances which have almost nothing to do with who is President. Also, the Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war. Congress has declared war on 11 occasions, including its first declaration of war with Great Britain in 1812.

The President has the right to sign or veto congressional acts, such as a declaration of war, and Congress may override any such presidential veto.

[illuminati]

While I don't dispute any of what you posted, it is important to note that the need for the U.S. employ military force is based on circumstances which have almost nothing to do with who is President. Also, the Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war. Congress has declared war on 11 occasions, including its first declaration of war with Great Britain in 1812.

The President has the right to sign or veto congressional acts, such as a declaration of war, and Congress may override any such presidential veto.

You don't dispute what i said - yet you still support Pedo Pete 

[IroNat]

Joe is an incredible man.

[chaos]

Says the guy whose head OAK is in all over the G&O 

Says the they/them so obsessed with a former president and his supporters that he can't go a single day without posting about him, right Tom?