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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2023, 01:40:57 AM »
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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2023, 01:41:26 AM »
Ahh - just an Expert on Pro Boxing
Why don't you check with the actual experts and read what they say about Tyson's title rein?

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2023, 01:44:40 AM »
Why don't you check with the actual experts and read what they say about Tyson's title rein?

If you say so....

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2023, 06:32:39 AM »
Whalin almost destroyyed fury peeople forget.   nganno was counter punching hes quick but not busy enough with all that muscle
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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2023, 07:46:25 AM »
Whalin almost destroyyed fury peeople forget.   nganno was counter punching hes quick but not busy enough with all that muscle

Wallin is pretty good. He deserves more big fights.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2023, 08:35:52 AM »
This is Getbig: you can be anything you want to be on here. Just make up absolute bullshit like everyone else  :D.
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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2023, 03:06:13 AM »
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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2023, 04:17:35 AM »
On the whole tomato can thing, here's a fun documentary on matchmaking, and the whole science behind trying to build up a young prospect, in this case, Shannon Briggs.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2023, 05:42:18 PM »
Interesting stuff, how do you know this is how it works?
That was always the name of the game. Every prospect had their career carefully managed to ensure that they were still undefeated and a big draw by the time they were matched with another prospect.

If you were a decent, Olympic-level amateur, you'd be given so-called journeymen for your first 15 or so fights. These guys are essentially paid to lose. They fight at short notice and push the fighter enough to help them learn, but they know that the task is not to win.

One funny example of it going wrong not too long ago was when a young and undefeated Amir Khan was matched with the Columbian knockout artist Breidis Prescott. Khan got his head taken off in the first round, and old fisheyes Frank Warren was fucking raging, lol. He was running around for weeks afterwards trying to blame everyone else for telling him Prescott would be a good match.



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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2023, 08:43:23 PM »
Interesting stuff, how do you know this is how it works?

I was always around boxing. Boxed amateur in various gyms across the UK, boxed full-time in the military for a little while, and I was turning professional before I decided against it. I used to know that referee in the gif, actually. A few of my friends boxed professional too.

It's really not a glamorous game at all. Unless you had the backing of the few big-name promoters, you were really up against it. Small-hall shows for a few hundred pounds a fight, difficult match-ups, expected to sell your own tickets, working full-time as well as training. It's shit. I would have been a manager's worst nightmare, too. There's no way I'd have done anything to promote myself as I found it all wince-inducing. Literally the only part of boxing I loved was training and competing. I hated the fans and everything else.

There's guys on here (Che and Walter and maybe some more) who boxed at a higher level than me, I think. I'd suspect they likely had the same experiences of it over in the US.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #85 on: November 03, 2023, 12:33:41 AM »
I was always around boxing. Boxed amateur in various gyms across the UK, boxed full-time in the military for a little while, and I was turning professional before I decided against it. I used to know that referee in the gif, actually. A few of my friends boxed professional too.

It's really not a glamorous game at all. Unless you had the backing of the few big-name promoters, you were really up against it. Small-hall shows for a few hundred pounds a fight, difficult match-ups, expected to sell your own tickets, working full-time as well as training. It's shit. I would have been a manager's worst nightmare, too. There's no way I'd have done anything to promote myself as I found it all wince-inducing. Literally the only part of boxing I loved was training and competing. I hated the fans and everything else.

There's guys on here (Che and Walter and maybe some more) who boxed at a higher level than me, I think. I'd suspect they likely had the same experiences of it over in the US.
I worked out in a boxing gym for a few years where pro boxers trained. Most guys who started fighting as pros only lasted a short time because of the reasons you stated. We had guys who were undefeated for the first 5 or 6 fights only lose interest after the first loss.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #86 on: November 03, 2023, 03:37:42 AM »
I worked out in a boxing gym for a few years where pro boxers trained. Most guys who started fighting as pros only lasted a short time because of the reasons you stated. We had guys who were undefeated for the first 5 or 6 fights only lose interest after the first loss.

Yeah, if you're an unknown pro with a record of something like 5-2, 8-3, and so on, you're pretty much on the scrapheap. You can become a professional journeyman and make reasonable pay by fighting to lose, or you can basically get brain damaged for next to no money at all. It is a brutal way to eke out a living.

One of the good things to come from the rise of the UFC, is that people have grown tired of the boxing model. Fans are sick of intransigent old promoters blocking the best fights, and people no longer really care about some manufactured 'undefeated' label. They just want to see the best fighters compete against each other on a level playing field.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #87 on: November 03, 2023, 03:53:37 AM »
Thanks for that, always good to learn from people in the know.
Agreed with what you said in the last post, it's much clearer and easier in the ufc, alot of faffing around in boxing setting up fights and people like Fury not actually defending belts holding up the division.
I was always around boxing. Boxed amateur in various gyms across the UK, boxed full-time in the military for a little while, and I was turning professional before I decided against it. I used to know that referee in the gif, actually. A few of my friends boxed professional too.

It's really not a glamorous game at all. Unless you had the backing of the few big-name promoters, you were really up against it. Small-hall shows for a few hundred pounds a fight, difficult match-ups, expected to sell your own tickets, working full-time as well as training. It's shit. I would have been a manager's worst nightmare, too. There's no way I'd have done anything to promote myself as I found it all wince-inducing. Literally the only part of boxing I loved was training and competing. I hated the fans and everything else.

There's guys on here (Che and Walter and maybe some more) who boxed at a higher level than me, I think. I'd suspect they likely had the same experiences of it over in the US.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #88 on: November 03, 2023, 04:00:17 AM »
Thanks for that, always good to learn from people in the know.
Agreed with what you said in the last post, it's much clearer and easier in the ufc, alot of faffing around in boxing setting up fights and people like Fury not actually defending belts holding up the division.

My pleasure, mate. Yes, the Fury family have really done a disservice to boxing recently with the YouTube stuff and risking the Usyk fight, in my opinion.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #89 on: November 03, 2023, 04:05:06 AM »
I was always around boxing. Boxed amateur in various gyms across the UK, boxed full-time in the military for a little while, and I was turning professional before I decided against it. I used to know that referee in the gif, actually. A few of my friends boxed professional too.

It's really not a glamorous game at all. Unless you had the backing of the few big-name promoters, you were really up against it. Small-hall shows for a few hundred pounds a fight, difficult match-ups, expected to sell your own tickets, working full-time as well as training. It's shit. I would have been a manager's worst nightmare, too. There's no way I'd have done anything to promote myself as I found it all wince-inducing. Literally the only part of boxing I loved was training and competing. I hated the fans and everything else.

There's guys on here (Che and Walter and maybe some more) who boxed at a higher level than me, I think. I'd suspect they likely had the same experiences of it over in the US.

what was your weight class?

i'm gaining size now but i must be mindful not to go over 2 bills in case i do decide to get back into the game ;D ;D ;D

on a side note what an aesthectic hot bod on fury :P :P :P

great physique here on Mr. Grant 8)


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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2023, 04:12:51 AM »
I like Fury in one way, he's a character and brings hype, no one can say he's boring and he's not actually doing anything against wbc rules. But them allowing special bouts like ngannou gets in the way, idealy the belt should be defended eveey 90 to 120 days i believe. Not very exciting for fans waiting so long for a big title defence.

My pleasure, mate. Yes, the Fury family have really done a disservice to boxing recently with the YouTube stuff and risking the Usyk fight, in my opinion.

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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2023, 04:41:46 AM »
I like Fury in one way, he's a character and brings hype, no one can say he's boring and he's not actually doing anything against wbc rules. But them allowing special bouts like ngannou gets in the way, idealy the belt should be defended eveey 90 to 120 days i believe. Not very exciting for fans waiting so long for a big title defence.

I've always been a big fan of Tyson Fury, and he's had a great career, but I feel like he really embarrassed the game with his latest escapade, and could have really damaged Usyk's chances of making serious money with the fight that should have been made between the two. It has lost a bit of its prestige now.

what was your weight class?

i'm gaining size now but i must be mindful not to go over 2 bills in case i do decide to get back into the game ;D ;D ;D

on a side note what an aesthectic hot bod on fury :P :P :P

great physique here on Mr. Grant 8)



Anywhere from lightweight to welterweight, depending on how much time I had. I always found it easy to drop a lot of weight, so I could get to lightweight with around 2 months of hard dieting. Later on, when I bulked up a lot and still hit the bag, I lost all my speed and stamina. I actually felt like I didn't hit as hard, too.


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Re: Any Fury vs Ngannou free streams ?!?
« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2023, 06:01:08 AM »
Honestly i think he totally underestimated Ngannou, something you should never do and he said he wouldn't. I think he thought he'd own him no question, now as you say it looks embarassing.
I've always been a big fan of Tyson Fury, and he's had a great career, but I feel like he really embarrassed the game with his latest escapade, and could have really damaged Usyk's chances of making serious money with the fight that should have been made between the two. It has lost a bit of its prestige now.

Anywhere from lightweight to welterweight, depending on how much time I had. I always found it easy to drop a lot of weight, so I could get to lightweight with around 2 months of hard dieting. Later on, when I bulked up a lot and still hit the bag, I lost all my speed and stamina. I actually felt like I didn't hit as hard, too.