Van_Bilderass question

[dj181]

Have you tried amphetamines? Yes they can increase anxiety but they can also make it totally disappear within minutes. So I'm not necessarily amazed that a stim is described as an anxiolytic. Amphetamines can make depression completely vanish immediately and from what I've seen on forums is that in the US they are not infrequently used for depression, and it seems almost anyone can get a diagnosis for something adhd related. You can debate whether these diagnoses are "real" or whether they warrant a prescription.
I think depression can often be so severe that anything, even the risks of the drugs, is better than being a living-dead half a person. I think the main risk with amphetamines is the neurotoxicity. With rec use the dosages are so high that it will damage your brain. As it advances the damage becomes apparent, personality changes, motor control changes, later on they can't even speak. It's kind of unknown exactly how damaging a "low" dosage of say less than 20mg is over time. Probably proper sleep hygiene is very important, if it makes you skip sleep it will be all the more neurotoxic. At low dose it didn't lower my sleeping hours actually. Sometimes I took it and took a nap a couple of hours later. I was jacked up but could still sleep. As much as I loved the pills  it's not something that is on my mind often.

if the doc gives me amps to treat ADHD will my tren interact with them?

i'm only on 20 mgs ACE a day and will not take it higher

he cancelled today coz he is sick so i gotta fucking wait til tuesday

[Grape Ape]

never did shrooms

my friend who sold weed back in the day did them and he became violent and aggrssive while on them so i figured i shouldn't try them

i'm gonna look up NAC and inositol you got me curious now

Here's a link with dosage, and the actual medical studies in the bio.

https://twitter.com/nootropicguy/status/1639028286905884674

Your friends mushroom experience is 100% opposite any experience I've ever had.

[dj181]

Here's a link with dosage, and the actual medical studies in the bio.

https://twitter.com/nootropicguy/status/1639028286905884674

Your friends mushroom experience is 100% opposite any experience I've ever had.

thanks bro i'll have a look

i saw him shroom once and he got into a fight with a friend of ours and this dude had him pinned to the ground punching his face and he asked him go you give up and he said yes and then after 2 minutes my friend attacked him again with the same result

he did it in cleveland and got arrested for disorderly and when they put him in the back of the car he tried to kick the window out so they hogtied him

he attempted selling coke breifly but fellas were bringing guns to thier buys so he got outta that real quick-like

[beakdoctor]

Here's a link with dosage, and the actual medical studies in the bio.

https://twitter.com/nootropicguy/status/1639028286905884674

Your friends mushroom experience is 100% opposite any experience I've ever had.

Ive done shrooms quite a bit over the course of my life. And by that I mean a few dozen times. Usually it's been exactly what I needed. Experience was mellow, a little trippy/psychadelic , but mostly it gave me clarity. Hard to say but I could just see through people anx situations really easily, especially if the person/situation was full of shit. This lead to many humorous trips.  .

When I was a teenager a buddy of mine had a 'bad' trip with shrooms. I could never figure it out. But the same thing recently happened to me. the last few times Ive taken shrooms, it was completely opposite.  I felt paranoid, self conscious, overly worried about insignificant details. It was an odd and uncomfortable experience. 

[Grape Ape]

Ive done shrooms quite a bit over the course of my life. And by that I mean a few dozen times. Usually it's been exactly what I needed. Experience was mellow, a little trippy/psychadelic , but mostly it gave me clarity. Hard to say but I could just see through people anx situations really easily, especially if the person/situation was full of shit. This lead to many humorous trips.  .

When I was a teenager a buddy of mine had a 'bad' trip with shrooms. I could never figure it out. But the same thing recently happened to me. the last few times Ive taken shrooms, it was completely opposite.  I felt paranoid, self conscious, overly worried about insignificant details. It was an odd and uncomfortable experience.

The only time I almost had a bad experience was when I looked in bathroom mirror.  Then I said "nope" and moved on.  I liked the calmness of my mind for a good time period afterwards - wasn't always "in my head".

I think the bad experiences are when shrooms are combined with other stuff, booze, etc, or when you're mixing with folks who are not on the trip.  Best to do it small groups, outside, without other people around, IMO.

But it's also been 15 years.  I know fentanyl is not something i've ever heard mushrooms getting laced with, I am paranoid about it, so I have been reluctant to do it again.

I would if I knew the source.

[Chidoman]

Interesting thread, will bump for more juicy info.

I'm also into stims, primarily for working out since I feel I got no motivation or drive without them when hitting the gym.

Been doing it old school and taking the ECA stack for the most part, taking about 40mgs of ephedrine and about 300-400 mgs of caffeine. 20 mins before taking the stack I'll toss and wash a teaspoon of maeng Da kratom to get a little motivated and for analgesic purposes for my aches and pains (I'm 55).

Been doing this for years and I'm surprised it still works for me.

I wouldn't mind spicing things up and changing compounds if it gets me wired and motivated when working out just to give ECA a little break.

Will definitely keep an eye on this thread and thank you guys for all the valuable info.

[beakdoctor]

Interesting thread, will bump for more juicy info.

I'm also into stims, primarily for working out since I feel I got no motivation or drive without them when hitting the gym.

Been doing it old school and taking the ECA stack for the most part, taking about 40mgs of ephedrine and about 300-400 mgs of caffeine. 20 mins before taking the stack I'll toss and wash a teaspoon of maeng Da kratom to get a little motivated and for analgesic purposes for my aches and pains (I'm 55).

Been doing this for years and I'm surprised it still works for me.

I wouldn't mind spicing things up and changing compounds if it gets me wired and motivated when working out just to give ECA a little break.

Will definitely keep an eye on this thread and thank you guys for all the valuable info.

On of the supplement companies (hi-tech) actually makes a 'fat burner' called ECA STACK. It has 'ephedra extract'' methyl-Synephrine and it has something that mimics aspirin, maybe white willow bark or something along those lines. And DMHA along with a half dozen b phenyl alamines.

Take 2 of those and it works pretty good.

Years ago I used to take modafinil and kratom. Some of my best workouts, total euphoria. Just awesome.  But the come down was just a gross feeling. When I came down, I came down hard. So I just stopped it. The come down wasn't worth the buzz.

[Van_Bilderass]

On of the supplement companies (hi-tech) actually makes a 'fat burner' called ECA STACK. It has 'ephedra extract'' methyl-Synephrine and it has something that mimics aspirin, maybe white willow bark or something along those lines. And DMHA along with a half dozen b phenyl alamines.

Take 2 of those and it works pretty good.

Years ago I used to take modafinil and kratom. Some of my best workouts, total euphoria. Just awesome.  But the come down was just a gross feeling. When I came down, I came down hard. So I just stopped it. The come down wasn't worth the buzz.

The "ephedra extract" is such a scam it makes me want to strangle the one responsible. It's ephedra leaves which contains zer ephedrine, thus legal. Obviously there only to trick the customer.

[dj181]

The "ephedra extract" is such a scam it makes me want to strangle the one responsible. It's ephedra leaves which contains zer ephedrine, thus legal. Obviously there only to trick the customer.

thanks for answering my question bro

[Van_Bilderass]

thanks for answering my question bro

Come on now broly. I considered your question but I have no answer as such. Everything interacts, there's no established special life threatening interaction between the two. I could speculate that you might want to keep an eye on your hydration and electrolyte levels. Both can increase BP and heart rate so that is something to definitely keep in mind. So increased organ stress is a possibility. Some antioxidants, like the mentioned NAC, might be beneficial. Might, we don't know for sure. As far as mentally, they might increase agitation and aggression but might also do the opposite. As you know, amphetamines can actually make some people less impulsive.

Similarly I've been asked if it's ok to use GH or even steroids if you've had cancer, or if there's a lot of cancer in your family. There's no really no way to answer that, you just have to make some type of cost/benefit analysis for yourself personally. Some with cancer go so far as to cut all dairy due to supposed increase in cancer risk. Milk increases IGF-1 through several mechanisms, even the fat in it increases IGF-1. But bodybuilders want optimal IGF-1 so it's a dilemma.

What do you think of my answer?
Ask a psychiatrist and he will most likely caution against steroids as they want as few variables affecting brain chemistry. It's not even recommended to drink coffee with ADHD drugs. But then some psychiatrists may add another stimulant from another class of drugs (like Wellbutrin) on top of the amphetamine/methylphenidate. So it all depends but they don't want you to experiment by yourself.

[dj181]

Come on now broly. I considered your question but I have no answer as such. Everything interacts, there's no established special life threatening interaction between the two. I could speculate that you might want to keep an eye on your hydration and electrolyte levels. Both can increase BP and heart rate so that is something to definitely keep in mind. So increased organ stress is a possibility. Some antioxidants, like the mentioned NAC, might be beneficial. Might, we don't know for sure. As far as mentally, they might increase agitation and aggression but might also do the opposite. As you know, amphetamines can actually make some people less impulsive.

Similarly I've been asked if it's ok to use GH or even steroids if you've had cancer, or if there's a lot of cancer in your family. There's no really no way to answer that, you just have to make some type of cost/benefit analysis for yourself personally. Some with cancer go so far as to cut all dairy due to supposed increase in cancer risk. Milk increases IGF-1 through several mechanisms, even the fat in it increases IGF-1. But bodybuilders want optimal IGF-1 so it's a dilemma.

What do you think of my answer?
Ask a psychiatrist and he will most likely caution against steroids as they want as few variables affecting brain chemistry. It's not even recommended to drink coffee with ADHD drugs. But then some psychiatrists may add another stimulant from another class of drugs (like Wellbutrin) on top of the amphetamine/methylphenidate. So it all depends but they don't want you to experiment by yourself.

alright thanks cheif

was gonna add var in my next order but just can't justify the cost ACE costs like 60% of what var costs so i'm going with ACE again

don't know if the doc wil treat me for ADHD and yep he will not condone the use of gear so i wont even tell him bout dat

he cancelled the app coz he was sick so i talk to him tomorrow and hopefully he won't fucking cancel again

wish to fuck he just just script me molly coz this definatley cures me

the whole world needs to follow my lead and turn libertarian