I think I see the problem here. It is less a problem with communication as it is with semantics. You keep referring to 'females' and 'women' when the pictures presented belie our distaff images. Most of these individuals have more exogenous test than the average (probably any) man. To post suggesting that we are somehow ignorant because we don't respect this is ludicrous. We are merely reacting to the hypocrisy of it all, and for you to argue that the fault lies with us is laughable. They may have been women or females at one point, but through efforts all their own they are now in some inter-sex zone. It is a bit sad, but here at Get Big, you are more likely to have a spade called a spade. Which leads me, ahem 
, to my next point. Your black/hate analogy is a straw man if I ever saw one. I suppose if Blacks were painting themselves in 'whiteface' and saying they were white (trying to 'pass'?) your argument might hold water, but I doubt it. Reason must into it somewhere. Shame on you for playing the race card.
As the first comment from your side of the issue that didn't resort to clitoral hypertrophy cracks or Barry Manilow pictures, I welcome your contribution.
Unless I'm mistaken, the biological definition of a woman is someone with an XX chromosome. Period. [And with all due respect: I doubt that your disinclination to view Betty Pariso as being as much of a woman as, say, Monica Brant has as much to do with hormone levels as with her bicep peaks.] So if you want to argue that a hardcore female bodybuilder is "in some inter-sex zone", you'll have to do so without science. [And her use of steroids isn't any more "unnatural" than Jay Cutler's.]
Obviously, culture will be happy to tell you that women shouldn't look the way Betty does. But the problem with basing your argument on that is that culture is always changing its mind about women
are supposed to look like. [50 years ago, Angelina Jolie would have been laughed out of the office of any Hollywood casting agent.] So you can't present its judgments as if they have any particular authority. There's also the very real question of a culture's vested interests in restricting women to a narrowly defined area of acceptable behavior [which you don't have to go as far afield as the Taliban to see in action]... but that's probably beyond the scope of this debate.
So what are you left with? Well, you think Betty looks gross and just about everyone on getbig agrees with you. Believe it or not, I really don't have the slightest problem with that. But if you really want to "call a spade a spade" - which is different than just bullying an unpopular minority - you're going to have to respectfully acknowledge that Betty has delts that would be the envy of a man half her age.
As a white guy, I'm not sure that I have a "race card" to play.
I stand by my previous statement that if you substituted the word "blacks" for the word "women" every time it has come up in a getbig discussion of female bodybuilders, the comments would be virtually indistinguishable in their malignant ugliness from those you'll find on white-power message boards. If you think there's something intellectually dishonest in examining the issue from that angle, I'll agree to disagree.
