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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2006, 01:42:14 PM »
In the words of the great Arnold who spoke this to Lou in Pumping Iron, "You never had the Olympia....".  ;D

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2006, 02:36:40 PM »

 It was then and when Arnold told his parent how out of shape he is and how he missed his timing and why bother because in another month...Arnold will be bigger to!

 All...every bit of basic human self-resect and dignity that Lou may have had was completely vaporized out of his system. Arnold OWNED Louie right then and there in the most SAVAGE way an OWNING can be put on a person. I said it once and even 240 may have said this...that OWNING was so FIERCE and FERCIOUS...it makes all the stupid shit we do on here to people like Adam Reiche or Derek Anthony or Vince Goodrum or Chick is all nickle/dime shit. It's all dust in the wind compared to what Lou felt that morning.

 You can see it now...we even talk about it all the time. Lou is suffering from Post Traumatic OWNING Disorder...thats why he treats everyone like the way he does. This is his only therepy, this is his only way to ease the pain of that  atom bomb dropped on him that one fateful morning. Maybe we should lay off a little and give Louie some space...
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2006, 02:41:03 PM »
We'll see more of this.

We currently have BBers on these boards who are owned in front of thousands.  There is no telling how this will influence their actions.  Did message board ownings contribute to Titus' descent into drugs and murder?  Did an inability to deal with "you have small forearms" comments lead a certain Jersey King to use gh to the point of Palumboism?  Will the valid questioning of Bob Chic's actions as athletes rep actions lead him to embarass himself time and time again?  Time will only tell...

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2006, 03:09:01 PM »

 I concur, 240...this is only the tip of the iceberg here. That King in NJ even declared publically and officially that we(the bucktooth jackasses here on 'the internet') gives him motivation to get bigger/better. Probably his way of trying to silence 'us'. His physique is now in Stage-2 Palumboism headed quickly to Stage 3 if he isnt careful.

 I'm starting to think right before his heavy sets or right before he loads his pins...he thinks about the ownings and ball breaking he expierenced all over cyberspace and uses it to drive him to extremes.

 Craig and his wife may have also decended into a drug and sex infused mad downward spiral that led to murder and arson...due to the embarassments and self-ownings. No different than Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Years of monumental ownings over the years from their peers caused them to REACT.

 TheBlockHead character wasnt around when the now real legit medical ailment known as 'palumboism' was first discovered, studied and established here on getbig...I dont know who first launched the investigation to put it on the medical map...now I am seeing a new psychological disorder rising up from getbig/internet OWNINGS. It needs a name, though...

 Maybe a possible thread can be started, 240...
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2006, 03:12:11 PM »
Lou never grew up.  He's still a frightened little deaf kid afraid of the world.  The celebrity he reminds me the most of is Mike Tyson. 

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2006, 03:59:03 PM »
yes, he is a selfish jerk who overcharges for an autograph

but, he did look decent next to Arnold onstage at the 75 Olympia, and he was still in his early 20s.  And after Arnold, we had scrubs like Zane, Franco, Bannout, and Dickerson winning titles. 

If he hadn't split for TV bucks,

1) How many Olympia wins would he have today? 
2) Would be be a bigger, smaller, or the same jerk he is today?

You think Zane and Bannout were scrubs? That confirms you don't know shit.
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2006, 04:00:47 PM »
You think Zane and Bannout were scrubs? That confirms you don't know shit.

There were far better men of their era who never won an O. 

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2006, 04:02:55 PM »
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You think Zane and Bannout were scrubs? That confirms you don't know shit.

There were far better men of their era who never won an O. 

Absolutely they were scrubs in comparison with the greats who never won and either retired or left the IFBB.

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2006, 04:04:12 PM »
There were far better men of their era who never won an O. 

Who was better than Frank from 1977 to 1979? Who in 1983 was better than Samir?
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2006, 04:06:27 PM »
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Who was better than Frank from 1977 to 1979? Who in 1983 was better than Samir?

Even asking the question proves you an ignorant scrub. I notice also that he selectively leaves out 1980-82. Forget it. Go and yell at someone else who cares about your ignorance.

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2006, 07:53:33 PM »
Who was better than Frank from 1977 to 1979?

Robby Robinson and Mike Mentzer


Who in 1983 was better than Samir?

Bertil Fox
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2006, 10:45:28 PM »
yes, he is a selfish jerk who overcharges for an autograph

but, he did look decent next to Arnold onstage at the 75 Olympia, and he was still in his early 20s.  And after Arnold, we had scrubs like Zane, Franco, Bannout, and Dickerson winning titles. 

If he hadn't split for TV bucks,

1) How many Olympia wins would he have today? 
2) Would be be a bigger, smaller, or the same jerk he is today?

for one year Bannout was the shit. after that it went to hell, but that day he kicked everyone's ass.

Robby Robinson and Mike Mentzer


Bertil Fox

what? the guy placed fifth! he wasnt even a contender that year. he always had a conditioning problem.

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2006, 11:45:57 PM »
in 1983 he got it spot on for 1 contest, and was placed 5th!!! Theres no excuse you can give me that makes me agree with the fact he was deemed the 5th best in a contest he should have won. Have you actually watched the 83 Olympia? Not through pictures, but through footage? bertil was ON and had it sewn up as soon as he went onstage
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2006, 05:53:07 AM »
sueing your own BLOOD BROTHER for chump change, are you kidding me. I would punch Lou in the other ear and make him completely death. dont get me wrong, I took a pic with lou at the arnold back in 2001, he was ok, but after that I started to dislike him for no apparent reason.
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2006, 06:11:50 AM »
Even asking the question proves you an ignorant scrub. I notice also that he selectively leaves out 1980-82. Forget it. Go and yell at someone else who cares about your ignorance.

Idiot, try reading the post. We were talking about Zane and Samir specifically. I agreed with him on Dickerson and Columbu. Fuck, your dumb Running Man.
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2006, 06:13:39 AM »
Robby Robinson and Mike Mentzer


Bertil Fox

Come Olympia day Robby was smooth. In 1979 Mike did give Frank a run for the money but its not like Mike was a clearly better and should have beat Frank. In 1983 there is no way Bertil should have beaten Samir. Bertil was big but not in the shape Samir achieved. He is narrow in the shoulders and posed for shit. Samir was a world beater on that day.
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2006, 06:18:15 AM »
Even asking the question proves you an ignorant scrub. I notice also that he selectively leaves out 1980-82. Forget it. Go and yell at someone else who cares about your ignorance.

The Running Man is on a mission to prove what a buffoon he is.
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2006, 06:37:36 AM »
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The Running Man is on a mission to prove what a buffoon he is.

The running man...lame. hahahahahaha

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2006, 07:22:06 AM »
The running man...lame. hahahahahaha

Yes, you are lame. Whats with al the dumb "hahahahahahh" shit in every one of your posts?
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2006, 07:34:33 AM »
yes, he is a selfish jerk who overcharges for an autograph

but, he did look decent next to Arnold onstage at the 75 Olympia, and he was still in his early 20s.  And after Arnold, we had scrubs like Zane, Franco, Bannout, and Dickerson winning titles. 

If he hadn't split for TV bucks,

1) How many Olympia wins would he have today? 
2) Would be be a bigger, smaller, or the same jerk he is today?
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2006, 08:30:12 AM »
Whilst we can only speculate, which do you think it was that made him angry

Not winning the olympia

Or

Having arnold turn him into a bit of a joke (and then becoming a megastar)

Hmm..

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2006, 09:22:56 AM »
in 1983 he got it spot on for 1 contest, and was placed 5th!!! Theres no excuse you can give me that makes me agree with the fact he was deemed the 5th best in a contest he should have won. Have you actually watched the 83 Olympia? Not through pictures, but through footage? bertil was ON and had it sewn up as soon as he went onstage

yes i have seen it, and Bertil was IMPRESSIVE. but his size didn't equal the total package that samir brought. and the judges agreed. you might be the one guy that argues in favor of Bertil Fox for 1983. and it doesn't matter whether you agree or not really, samir has the sandow either way.

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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2006, 12:29:30 PM »
Come Olympia day Robby was smooth. In 1979 Mike did give Frank a run for the money but its not like Mike was a clearly better and should have beat Frank. In 1983 there is no way Bertil should have beaten Samir. Bertil was big but not in the shape Samir achieved. He is narrow in the shoulders and posed for shit. Samir was a world beater on that day.

I always felt the younger (late 1960's / early 70's) Zane was pretty impressive - he packed pretty thick, dense muscle on his small frame. But as time went on (late 70's / early eighties), his physique lost that quality. I have heard that he supposedly had to largely forgo the power movements and train much lighter in later years due to injuries. I don't know how true that is, but his physique in later competitive years looked somewhat frail and swimmer-like IMO when compared to the more herculean guys like Robinson, Mentzer, Viator, Coe, Fox, etc. In his later competitive years he was not at all what I would consider an ideal Mr O type of physique to be.

I felt somewhat the same way (to a lesser extent) about Bannout. He had a great back, good overall aesthetics, and was rock hard in '83. But his relative lack of overall size and freakish propotions (other than the back) when compared to a mass monster like Fox (who was also quite hard and had much better proportions than most of today's big-bellied "mass monsters") wasn't really what I thought / think about in terms of a "Mr Olympia" type physique.

But Bannout was much closer to my subjective opinion of an "ideal" Mr O type physique than Zane or Dickerson were, and he was definitely at his alltime best in '83. I'm not familiar enough with the finer points of judging to comment on how much posing affects placing, but I would have a hard time placing Fox any lower than 2nd (if not 1st) that day (if I had been a judge). As for Fox's shoulder width, I don't recall Bannout having a particularly wide shoulder structure either. Bannout's back was definitely better overall of course.
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Re: How many sandows should Big Lou have?
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2006, 12:36:11 PM »
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Come Olympia day Robby was smooth. In 1979 Mike did give Frank a run for the money but its not like Mike was a clearly better and should have beat Frank. In 1983 there is no way Bertil should have beaten Samir. Bertil was big but not in the shape Samir achieved. He is narrow in the shoulders and posed for shit. Samir was a world beater on that day.

Once again he leaves out 1980-1982, because those years don't happen to support his biased, one-dimensional arguments.

I personally don't care how much trivia & excuses are thrown out there, bottom line Robinson & Padilla had to win somewhere, and arguably Fox, Szkalak & Mentzer in lieu of the tier-B guys who won such as Columbu, Dickerson, & Bannout. Zane didn't deserve 3 wins either.

Forget the recycled trivia ("Robinson was smooth, Padilla was washed out" blah, blah, blah) that  is hauled out when needed in the same way bible-thumpers evokes religious passages. Looking back it's crystal clear they got screwed & agree with this assessment, hence their departures/retirements. ;D