Eq alone

[southpa]

Gentlemen, I know this isnt a good idea to do without test, but I cant get a hold of any right now. I have access to tren as well, but nothing else. Would 600 mgs a week for 12 weeks of eq be a complete waste? Im mainly looking to lean out. What do you guys think?

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

you arent looking hard enough because theres a million people selling gear---- dont start a cycle without being fully prepared---also dont just run half cycles---do it right and the benefits will be greater-- no cycle is efficient without testosterone

[udeluz]

you arent looking hard enough because theres a million people selling gear----

Wasn't it 4 months ago you were telling me the same thing?  lol

[ZEEK]

you can take EQ alone. you dont need test for that.

[Captain Equipoise]

As long as you don't mind crashign your HPTA and not having a very high sex drive you'll be fine, a lot of Olympic and other pro athletes use EQ and Winstrol together with no test (EQ increases your red blood cell count kind of like EPO at a smaller dosage)

[Arnold jr]

My very first cycle ever was EQ and winny, no test. Looking back this was not the worst first time cycle, but it could have been better that's for certain. I should mention I was also taking proviron with this cycle and I believe that is what kept me from "shutting" down completely. I can not remember the doses I took exactly, some where around 400mg eq/wk and I think 50mg winny eod, but I have no clue as to what the prov dose was. Gains were minimal and it's not a cycle I'd ever run again, not because it was horrible, but simply because now I know how to cycle AAS properly.

As far as running EQ and tren only, this is playing with fire IMO. I know of a handfull of  guys who have done this and all but one has hated it.

Find some test, like everyone says, test should be your base of any cycle. The only time I'd ever recommend a non-test cycle is with someone who is a serious competitor and is running a cutting cycle in prep for an important show, in this scenario things like libido and the like are not a concern, but this is the only time this is valid IMO.

[benchmstr]

my first and only personal cycle

300 mg winstrol 12 weeks
d-bol dont remember dosage weeks 1-4
a-dex 1 mg EOD weeks 10-14

 that was over two years ago i gained 28 pounds and keeped most of the size to this day so not everyone absolutely needs test for a cycle but it sure helps

[JamieX4200]

you arent looking hard enough because theres a million people selling gear---- dont start a cycle without being fully prepared---also dont just run half cycles---do it right and the benefits will be greater-- no cycle is efficient without testosterone

seriously, my guy dissapeared, havn't been able to find anythign lately at all.  i guess it doesn't help i workout at home either.

[mem]

Save your EQ for when you can combine
with test for maximum result.

SAVE IT !  WAIT  !

[txhulk]

NO TEST NO CYCLE

[southpa]

Ok, appreciate all the input, I will hunt down some test prop, over enanthate since I really just want to lean up a bit.