First Cycle ...

[Eulogy]

Heya Everyone,
I've read these boards for some time, and now I've decided to take the plunge so-to-speak. I've got a few questions I'm hoping you could answer for me ...

After speaking with a very knowledge bodybuilder, he suggested as little as 250mg of test cyp and 2 d-bol a day; the test for 10 weeks, 1 shot a week, and the d-bol for the first 5 weeks.

Now the test cyp is quality vet - how reliable? Any previous users?

Any advice! Please I am not looking to get /huge/ but merely add some extra pounds of quality muscle and be done with this side of it (I don't like all the cloak-and-dagger associated with it ...)

Thanks fellas!

[udeluz]

Whats the mg of the dbol's?

And if he is "a experienced bodybuilder" why do you question him?

I'd go for a min of 12 weeks of the Test with either some Deca or EQ

[Rimbaud]

When did you get the QV Test C? Because the lab was was shut down during operation "gear grinder".

[Rimbaud]

Whats the mg of the dbol's?

That was my next question.

[Rimbaud]

I would also up the Test C to a 500mg a week.

[whitewidow]

whats the lot# on the QV teston? lot of very weak btaches of QV cyp- ones that arelabelled at 200mg per ml but really are 136mg per ml.

[Eulogy]

The package has the number: QV4T 001; below it 10,2007...

The reason why I am asking ya'll is simple: to reinforce his statements or counter them with logical replies and suggestions. Both of which I've got - thanks a lot everyone!

Keep up the help!

[Ledd]

two dbols a day if they are 25mg and I also say up the test to 500mg two shots weekly.  did the experienced bodybuilder suggest a pct or do you yourself have one planned and ready in case shit happens during the cycle?(i.e. nolvadex)

[Arnold jr]

Bump the test up to 500mg wk, unless your older, say over 35 or 40, then 250mg is not going to make a big difference...30mg of dbol a day would work, plan out your PCT and consider either nolva or adex during cycle.

[Eulogy]

Hey guys,
The d-bols are 25mg each. Aside from that, when I asked him about a PCT etc. - he didn't advise any on-the-ready items, citing my low dosages and limited exposure to the stuff. Instead he suggested only get clomid close to the very end to help control the coming off.

Moreover, as much as I would like 500 or 2 shots a week, I cannot get such quantities that - at this point. Is 1 shot a week for someone twenty - really that ineffective? Remember, my goal is 10-15 pounds, not 20+ ...

He also advised the 1-shot a week because of reason 1; I am unsure how my body is going to respond, so it's best to test the waters with a lower dosage.

Keep up the suggestions, please!

I really appreciate everyone's help!

[Captain Equipoise]

Personally I would say 250mg a week is fine for a first cycle, esp. if it's cyp or enanthate, and ESPECIALLY if it's QV,  I was one of the biggest supporters of QV gear when it was still around, their stuff was VERY GOOD. The testosterone blends especially, I grew like a tree off 250mg QV test enanthate a week. The rest of the vet's might not agree with me but I have much faith in QV gear, combined with 50mg of dbol you'll be just fine. 

LONG LIVE QV!!!

remember.. they can take our favourite gear labs and shut them down but they'll never stop us from finding a new source

[Arnold jr]

The reason for advising more test then what you have planned is this: Since you are relatively young, then your body should still be producing a fair amount of natural test. To get a noticeable difference you will need to introduce more test to your body then it is accustomed to. Yes, your body is probably not producing the equivalent of 250mg/wk but at the same time a low dose like that is not going to be a drastic change. You should get some gains with it, but it is very difficult to say how much. Make sense?