Creatine / Caffiene supps

[Nordic Superman]

What's the details about taking these simultaneously?

I've read evidence showing the cell volumising effects of creatine are killed off by the duertic effects of the EC stack.

Then I read other evidence contradicting this....

Anyone had any experience mixing the 2?

Also: CEE or mono? Which do you prefer?

[Adam Empire]

What's the details about taking these simultaneously?

I've read evidence showing the cell volumising effects of creatine are killed off by the duertic effects of the EC stack.

Then I read other evidence contradicting this....

Anyone had any experience mixing the 2?

Also: CEE or mono? Which do you prefer?

Don't believe all the "ad reports" 

Anyway, you can mix the two - but why?  You would want to take caffiene before a workout to get energy.  You want to take creatine immediatly afterwards when your body is proven to absorb more nutrients.

Also, I don't think it matters the type of creatine taken, but I do believe CEE is tougher on your kidneys for some reason.  I think because it's "esthered" or something...

[Nordic Superman]

Don't believe all the "ad reports" 

Anyway, you can mix the two - but why?  You would want to take caffiene before a workout to get energy.  You want to take creatine immediatly afterwards when your body is proven to absorb more nutrients.

Also, I don't think it matters the type of creatine taken, but I do believe CEE is tougher on your kidneys for some reason.  I think because it's "esthered" or something...

My main reason to take Ephedrine and caffiene is to increase my work productivity

[Adam Empire]

My main reason to take Ephedrine and caffiene is to increase my work productivity

Go ahead and mix and match then. 

[Jr. Yates]

Go ahead and mix and match then. 

yes forsure if its just for intensity and awakness. but for fat burning purposes i would cut out creatine i think.

[Adam Empire]

yes forsure if its just for intensity and awakness. but for fat burning purposes i would cut out creatine i think.

No, I would continue creatine suring dieting for sure.  Just use the plain stuff or Kre-akylne.