IFBB Pro League Rules Article - 8 Drug Testing

[John Romano]

Not exactly...they're saying , "this is what we offer if you pledge your alliegience to us..." No one is forced to join the Pro league/ IFBB...any athlete is free to join any other organization they wish, they just can't do both...that's the right you give up to gain access to all the IFBB has to offer.

That would be cool if all that were up for grabs were bragging rights.  Limiting one's access to earn income is the issue.  And since it is, the legality of "they just can't do both.." comes into play.

[Chick]

I realize this...that's why I have a proposal in place to allow for athletes to make more money with appearances, expo's, guest posings, etc

[shootfighter1]

Sounds like a very good proposal.

[ronian]

Sounds like a very good proposal.

Except it doesn't include competition in other orgs.

[John Romano]

I realize this...that's why I have a proposal in place to allow for athletes to make more money with appearances, expo's, guest posings, etc

Yes!!

AMENDMENT OF SECT 1.7

Amendment of section 1.7   of the IFBB Pro League rules. Athletes WILL be allowed to make appearances on behalf of companies they represent and/ or as individuals to: (including but not limited to) non –sanctioned events, expo’s, guest posing, appearances, seminars, openings, etc. As IFBB athletes are listed as “independent contractors” by our own IFBB by laws and therefore cannot be limited in their ability to make a living from being a professional.

Athlete would be required to be a IFBB athlete in good standing, and any and all promotional items, advertisements, etc linked to said event(s) would require that athlete be billed and represented as an IFBB athlete.


By virtue of omission, competitions?

[Vince B]

Bob, does the IFBB pay for the medals, trophies, and prize money in professional or amateur bodybuilding contests?
I am pretty sure they don't. That means that the benefits that bodybuilders get comes from promoters, fans, and gyms. How does the IFBB directly benefit the bodybuilders?

[Vince B]

So, where do we go from here? Says Ben Weider, "The answer is simple … we continue the fight! There is too much at stake for the future of the IFBB, the sport and our athletes to give in, even one iota, to cheaters. Drug-free sport is the goal of the IOC, WADA, NADO's [National Anti-Doping Agencies], and governments worldwide. Appropriately, it is the goal of the IFBB as well."

[tom joad]

So, where do we go from here? Says Ben Weider, "The answer is simple … we continue the fight! There is too much at stake for the future of the IFBB, the sport and our athletes to give in, even one iota, to cheaters. Drug-free sport is the goal of the IOC, WADA, NADO's [National Anti-Doping Agencies], and governments worldwide. Appropriately, it is the goal of the IFBB as well."

hahahaha

[mrsirjojo]

So, where do we go from here? Says Ben Weider, "The answer is simple … we continue the fight! There is too much at stake for the future of the IFBB, the sport and our athletes to give in, even one iota, to cheaters. Drug-free sport is the goal of the IOC, WADA, NADO's [National Anti-Doping Agencies], and governments worldwide. Appropriately, it is the goal of the IFBB as well."

Not in our lifetimes Vince (and I'm only 32). As I've argued in the past...If drugs are removed from the "sport", then many hobbyists could look bigger and better than the pros, and the whole industry would crumble. It's the same reason (in principle) that people would rather watch amateur male sports (for free) than pay to watch female professionals.

Drugs would have to be removed 100 percent from the public before bodybuilding could be successfull natural. Even then, people would always compare the new, smaller pros to the giants of the past. The genie's been out of the bottle since D-Bol 60 years ago.

[noworries]

The rulebook is located on the IFBB website and can be downloaded if anyone cares enough to see it...

BTW John...to this date, not one pro has expressed concern to me as to why they HAVEN'T been tested.

When they start testing one person, and not another...now we have an issue with "selectively enforcing the rules".

No way!  You are saying not one of the drug infested Pro is complaining because they aren't getting drug tested.  YOu don't say.  Wow this is huge news.

[myt1]

BTW John...to this date, not one pro has expressed concern to me as to why they HAVEN'T been tested.

No shit???    Who whudda thunkd it 

[bmacsys]

"what is a law, it seems to vary from time to time, place to place, what's legal today is suddenly illegal tomorrow because some society says it's so and what's illegal today is suddenly legal because everybody's doing it and you can't put everybody in jail, i'm not saying it's right or wrong i'm just saying that's the way it is"

                                Billy Hayes in Midnight Express

Awesome movie.

[digitaljake]

I don't post often but reading the forum everyday and seeing what is going on I had to post my two cents.

1.) This is probably been stated before but it amazes me that the IFBB cares more about following there own rules than that of the actual laws.
2.) What the IFBB is doing to the BB's today is like what Hollywood did with the blacklisting actors back in the day, everyone should have the right to earn a living and I personal could give a crap whether a BB is using steroids are not it is not going to help them on the stage because the judges are blinded by the "chain of command".
3.) I wonder what is the recourse to the BB's if all the proposal that Bob is trying to get amended get rejected, most likely nothing because every IFBB pro is being black balled.
4.) I do think that there needs to be some major changes to the IFBB (ex: the governing council that decides on such amendments should include three IFBB reps, three Pros, and one independent for a tie breaker) then at least the BB's would have a semi chance in winning more rights for the freedom to make a living and other rights.
5.) How I look at it is if the BB isn't competing that same night in two different organizations then who gives a shit.