lesson to remember (especially for beginners)

[gh15]

ofcoure the encyclopedia got nothinng to do with my claims,,,its the WRONG book moron,, macfly,,any body home?? the education of a bodybuilder small thin book where arnold is retired before the 80s olympia if i remember correctly only on hrt doses of hormones wearing a tank and having a million dollar smile while crossing his hands on the cover,,

what kind of bodybuilder are you?? any single bodybuilder around usa knows this picture like the abc. it is from the 60s arnold flexing on the back and bunch of reatrds infront of him in the championship. one of them is franco and that has a lot to do with my opinions. THIS IS HOW A NATURAL 100% NOT EXPERIENCED (PRE ARNOLD ADVICE ERA TO HIM) REAL 100% ALL NATURAL BODYBUILDER LOOKS LIKE.

i swear you start looking stupid as in stupifffy like the american dr phil say and i rarely call people stupid
gotta go now falks

[brianX]

Adam, do you know about the history of AAS?  It was definitely available to Steve Reeves in the fourties.

Wrong, dumbass. You should stick to reviewing gay musclebear videos, because you don't know shit about real bodybuilders.

[brianX]

GH15 is just some steroid clown who wants to discredit Steve Reeves because the guy had a better physique than him. He is not a pro. He is not some big-time bodybuilding insider. He is a con artist and a liar.

Think about it. Guys like gh15 spend years pumping themselves full of juice, but they still look like shit compared to great naturals like Steve Reeves. It must be a huge blow to their egos to know that drug-free champions like Reeves would destroy them in a fair contest.

[sarcasm]

GH15 is just some steroid clown who wants to discredit Steve Reeves because the guy had a better physique than him. He is not a pro. He is not some big-time bodybuilding insider. He is a con artist and a liar.

Think about it. Guys like gh15 spend years pumping themselves full of juice, but they still look like shit compared to great naturals like Steve Reeves. It must be a huge blow to their egos to know that drug-free champions like Reeves would destroy them in a fair contest.

i brought this up in a previous post, GH knows that if he were drug free he'd be half the size of Reeves, Grimek, Sandow or any of the past greats.

[NarcissisticDeity]

What I did say 20 posts ago is that NOBODY knows. The thing is GH15 says he thinks he did because of his vast experience and thourough knowledge of anabolics and their effects, and you say you know he didn't because he said so. I'm with GH on this one.

Wrong Steve Reeves knows and he said he never did , and I'm supposed to believe some internet screen name over a bodybuilding legend? get serious , I have no reason to doubt Steve Reeves honesty. I have a reason to doubt gh15.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ofcoure the encyclopedia got nothinng to do with my claims,,,its the WRONG book moron,, macfly,,any body home?? the education of a bodybuilder small thin book where arnold is retired before the 80s olympia if i remember correctly only on hrt doses of hormones wearing a tank and having a million dollar smile while crossing his hands on the cover,,

what kind of bodybuilder are you?? any single bodybuilder around usa knows this picture like the abc. it is from the 60s arnold flexing on the back and bunch of reatrds infront of him in the championship. one of them is franco and that has a lot to do with my opinions. THIS IS HOW A NATURAL 100% NOT EXPERIENCED (PRE ARNOLD ADVICE ERA TO HIM) REAL 100% ALL NATURAL BODYBUILDER LOOKS LIKE.

i swear you start looking stupid as in stupifffy like the american dr phil say and i rarely call people stupid
gotta go now falks

Wrong book , who cares? I've read the education as well and neither have ANYTHING to do with your claims about Steve Reeves. period. answer the questions .

[corinth]

i brought this up in a previous post, GH knows that if he were drug free he'd be half the size of Reeves, Grimek, Sandow or any of the past greats.

That's exactly where the garbage that GH is pouring out it is coming from, pure jealousy. GH's jealousy that he could never look like any of those guys naturally. He sees someone in great shape and in his opinion they have to be on steroids, since he sad ass could never get in that kind of shape without drugs. He's pathetic. 

[pkaz]

That's exactly where the garbage that GH is pouring out it is coming from, pure jealousy. GH's jealousy that he could never look like any of those guys naturally. He sees someone in great shape and in his opinion they have to be on steroids, since he sad ass could never get in that kind of shape without drugs. He's pathetic. 

In summary, because I think some of you are missing the point of gh15s starting tread, is that the human body is not meant to be lean and muscular over a certain body weight, naturally.

There are exceptions but not many. Go into any gym anywhere and you will find many individuals training hard, eating right, taking various supplements and proteins, giving up time, money, and careers, etc., etc., and looking average (or slightly better than average).. How many individuals do you know who train and train and maybe look slightly better than average? A few... Again there are always exceptions (however small)..

Genetics plays a major factor, but still a limiter… I think gh15s message is clear.. Do not think that training, perfect eating, and supplementation is going to give you a large muscular body, because for most it will not! 

Enjoy training and working out but understand the limits. Unless you are prepared to use various types of hormonal drugs and take that next step.

I have had the opportunity to train with many pro BBs over the years. As a matter of fact Onlyme and I trained in the same gym, during the same time frame (late 70s and early 80s), and met and worked out with many of the same pros. And all of them, every last one tried and or continued to use hormone drugs of some kind. And some of these guys had been around the BB community for years. Again, anyone of them that had large muscular physique tried, used, or continued to use hormones.

I was very naive thinking that hard training and good food alone would give me the results that I wanted… What a wake up call…

My first experiences with hormone type drugs to include GH were under the supervision of Dr. Robert B. Kerr (google him if you do not know who he was).. Dr. Kerr was considered an expert with regarding these types of medicines for sports enhancement and had worked with most of the top BBs in the 80’s. I remember him telling me the exact combination of medicines he had one the winning Mr. Olympia’s on right up to contest day. And he had been working with this guy for a year and a half to get him in shape for this contest. Dr. Kerr had working and consulted with many athlete's from all different sports fields.

I got off track here but the point is heed gh15s advise and opinion or don’t. But stop the negative comments to a guy who is freely posting his opinion and experiences based on years in the game.

Everything is not always as it appears.

Have fun and stay healthy.

[LurkerNoMore]

the threat was for a specific drug dealer. those are no regular guys,,they earn in a single day what you make in a whole month. in rome act like a romanian my friend 

Since you know nothing about me, nor what I earn it is once again pure SPECULATION what they earn vs. what I may or may not earn.  Speculation... which seems to be what your first post on this thread is all about.  What you are professing to be the gospel truth is nothing more than your own opinion and guess.   An educated guess nonetheless, but a guess all the same. 

[arce377]

WHY didnt Reeves use? BS. Russians were using German PE's in the 40's and 50's...and guess what??

[arce377]

WHY didnt Reeves use? BS. Russians were using German PE's in the 40's and 50's...and guess what??




(
20th Century History
 
The History of the Olympics:
1952 - Helsinki, Finland
The 1952 Olympic Games were largely a reflection of the Cold War. The Soviet Union, after having been out of the Games since 1912, decided to rejoin the competition. The Soviets Dominated the Summer Games. And the USSR, instead of joining the other athletes in the Olympic Village, set up their own Olympic Village for Eastern bloc countries in Otaniemi, near the Soviet naval base at Porkkala. Soviet athletes were chaperoned by Soviet officials everywhere they went in an effort to prevent communication with athletes from the West.

The competition of East versus West dominated the atmosphere.
Approximately 5,000 athletes participated in the Games, representing 69 countries.

* Bob Mathias as quoted in Allen Guttmann, The Olympics: A History of the Modern Games (Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1992) 97.

[NarcissisticDeity]

WHY didnt Reeves use? BS. Russians were using German PE's in the 40's and 50's...and guess what??




(
20th Century History
 
The History of the Olympics:
1952 - Helsinki, Finland
The 1952 Olympic Games were largely a reflection of the Cold War. The Soviet Union, after having been out of the Games since 1912, decided to rejoin the competition. The Soviets Dominated the Summer Games. And the USSR, instead of joining the other athletes in the Olympic Village, set up their own Olympic Village for Eastern bloc countries in Otaniemi, near the Soviet naval base at Porkkala. Soviet athletes were chaperoned by Soviet officials everywhere they went in an effort to prevent communication with athletes from the West.

The competition of East versus West dominated the atmosphere.
Approximately 5,000 athletes participated in the Games, representing 69 countries.

* Bob Mathias as quoted in Allen Guttmann, The Olympics: A History of the Modern Games (Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1992) 97.

No one doubting the Russians were using testosterone in the mid-1950s thats how steroid use in the United States started .

The story of steroid use in sports began just before the World Weightlifting Championships of 1954. The Soviets had made their Olympic debut in Helsinki in 1952, and made quite an impact, but nothing compared to the show they put on in 1954. That year, the Soviets easily dominated most of the weight classes. As the story goes, John Ziegler (team physician for the United States) questioned the soviet team´s doctor after the medals were given out, and the soviet doctor said that his team had been receiving testosterone injections. That, in all probability, was the first time anyone had ever used anabolic steroids to enhance performance in an athletic event. According to some unconfirmed sources, testosterone preparations were used by Germany´s Olympic team in 1936 for the Berlin Olympics. At that time, there were rumors that an Olympic medal winner had previously used oral Testosterone preparations, but the benefit to be had from them (due to the technology at the time regarding oral testosterone) would have been minor. In the case of the Soviets, however, rumors of discarded syringes in their dressing rooms made it clear that they were not using oral steroids, they were using something different. And everyone wanted to know what it was.



Steve Reeves retired in 1950 well before steroids were produced & first started being used in the United States .

[NarcissisticDeity]

In summary, because I think some of you are missing the point of gh15s starting tread, is that the human body is not meant to be lean and muscular over a certain body weight, naturally.

There are exceptions but not many. Go into any gym anywhere and you will find many individuals training hard, eating right, taking various supplements and proteins, giving up time, money, and careers, etc., etc., and looking average (or slightly better than average).. How many individuals do you know who train and train and maybe look slightly better than average? A few... Again there are always exceptions (however small)..

Genetics plays a major factor, but still a limiter… I think gh15s message is clear.. Do not think that training, perfect eating, and supplementation is going to give you a large muscular body, because for most it will not! 

Enjoy training and working out but understand the limits. Unless you are prepared to use various types of hormonal drugs and take that next step.

I have had the opportunity to train with many pro BBs over the years. As a matter of fact Onlyme and I trained in the same gym, during the same time frame (late 70s and early 80s), and met and worked out with many of the same pros. And all of them, every last one tried and or continued to use hormone drugs of some kind. And some of these guys had been around the BB community for years. Again, anyone of them that had large muscular physique tried, used, or continued to use hormones.

I was very naive thinking that hard training and good food alone would give me the results that I wanted… What a wake up call…

My first experiences with hormone type drugs to include GH were under the supervision of Dr. Robert B. Kerr (google him if you do not know who he was).. Dr. Kerr was considered an expert with regarding these types of medicines for sports enhancement and had worked with most of the top BBs in the 80’s. I remember him telling me the exact combination of medicines he had one the winning Mr. Olympia’s on right up to contest day. And he had been working with this guy for a year and a half to get him in shape for this contest. Dr. Kerr had working and consulted with many athlete's from all different sports fields.

I got off track here but the point is heed gh15s advise and opinion or don’t. But stop the negative comments to a guy who is freely posting his opinion and experiences based on years in the game.

Everything is not always as it appears.

Have fun and stay healthy.

No one is questioning his knowlege about steroids in todays game or even the last decade , or that it takes something just a tad more than weight gainer to be 250 + pounds. What I'm question is his claims of knowing that Steve Reeves experimented with steroids and insulin. and his alleged duration , types , and dosages.

[gh15]

as i promised a lesson given by me for free for getbigger is on the main board. enjoy and learn.

[CT]

provide me with your sources that

A) steroids were available since 1940
B) how you know Steve experimented

I cannot say anything about Reeves' use; however it is definetly true that testosterone products were available as soon as the mid 1935... This is from an article by Drs. Hoberman and Yesalis (two of the leading authorities on anabolic steroids and their history) published in an issue of ''Scientific american'' (Hoberman JM; Yesalis CE. The history of synthetic testosterone. Scientific American., Feb.1995;76,77):


Since the 1940s countless elite athletes and bodybuilders have taken these drugs to increase muscle mass and to intensify training regimens. For the past 25 years, this practice has been officially proscribed yet maintained by a $1-billion international black market. That testosterone products have served many therapeutic roles in legitimate clinical medicine for an even longer period is less well known. Fifty years ago, in fact, it appeared as though testosterone might become a common therapy for aging males, but for various reasons it did not gain this "legitimate" mass-market status. Perhaps most important, physicians were concerned that these drugs often caused virilizing side effects when administered to women, including a huskier voice and hirsutism.

(...)

The Isolation of Testosterone
Before Stanley and his fellow surgeons started performing transplant operations, other scientists had begun searching for a specific substance having androgenic properties. In 1911 A. Pezard discovered that the comb of a male capon grew in direct proportion to the amount of animal testicular extracts he injected into the bird. Over the next two decades researchers used this and similar animal tests to determine the androgenic effects of various substances isolated from large quantities of animal testicles or human urine. Their quest entered its final stage in 1931, when Adolf Butenandt managed to derive 15 milligrams of androsterone, a nontesticular male hormone, from 15,000 liters of policemen's urine. Within the next few years, several workers confirmed that the testes contained a more powerful androgenic factor than did urine--testosterone.
Three research teams, subsidized by competing pharmaceutical companies, raced to isolate the hormone and publish their results. On May 27, 1935, Karoly Gyula David and Ernst Laqueur and their colleagues, funded by the Organon company in Oss, the Netherlands (where Laqueur had long been the scientific adviser), submitted a now classic paper entitled "On Crystalline Male Hormone from Testicles (Testosterone)." On August 24 a German journal received from Butenandt and G. Hanisch, backed by Schering Corporation in Berlin, a paper describing "a method for preparing testosterone from cholesterol." And on August 31 the editors of "Helvetica Chimica Acta" received "On the Artificial Preparation of the Testicular Hormone Testosterone (Androsten-3-one-17-ol)" from Leopold Ruzicka and A. Wettstein, announcing a patent application in the name of Ciba. Butenandt and Ruzicka eventually shared the 1939 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for this discovery.
The struggle for the synthetic testosterone market had begun. By 1937 clinical trials in humans were already under way, employing injections of testosterone propionate, a slow-release derivative of testosterone, as well as oral doses of methyl testosterone, which is broken down in the body more slowly than is testosterone. These experiments were initially as haphazard and unregulated as the more primitive methods involving testicular extracts or transplants. In its early phase, however, synthetic testosterone therapy was reserved primarily for treating men with hypogonadism, allowing them to develop fully or maintain secondary sexual characteristics, and for those suffering from a poorly defined "male climacteric" that included impotence.''

Now, earlier in the thread someone pointed out that dianabol was the first steroid used by American lifters in 1956 and that Dr.Ziegler was the one who designed the drug. This is not 100% correct. Dr.Ziegler DID NOT have anything to do with the development of dianabol. CIBA pharmaceuticals developed the drug and asked Dr.Ziegler to distribute it to weightlifters (at the time Dr.Ziegler was the doctor for the US weightlifting team) so that they could gauge its effect under 'real life' circumstances (yeah, medical ethics were not the same then as they are now).

It IS true that dianabol became widely used by the mid 50s but it wasn't the first steroid used. Testosterone was experimented with in the last 40s and early 50s... the first 'wave' of experimenter were european athletes & bodybuilders as well as american athletes who would go to europe for certain periods of time. The second wave was in the early 50s when Dr.Ziegler (once again, the team doctor for the US weighlifting team) learned first hand from Soviet doctors that their lifters had been using testosterone preparations for a while.

Now, this doesn't prove that Steve Reeves used steroids; but it does show that he indeed had the possibility to do so... being one of the top bodybuilder in the world he was unbdoutably among the 'inside crowd' and he was traveling to europe quite often.

[Woten]

I cannot say anything about Reeves' use; however it is definetly true that testosterone products were available at soon as the nid 1935... This is from an article by Dr. Yesalis (one of the leading authority on anabolic steroids and their history) published in an issue of ''Scientific american'':


Since the 1940s countless elite athletes and bodybuilders have taken these drugs to increase muscle mass and to intensify training regimens. For the past 25 years, this practice has been officially proscribed yet maintained by a $1-billion international black market. That testosterone products have served many therapeutic roles in legitimate clinical medicine for an even longer period is less well known. Fifty years ago, in fact, it appeared as though testosterone might become a common therapy for aging males, but for various reasons it did not gain this "legitimate" mass-market status. Perhaps most important, physicians were concerned that these drugs often caused virilizing side effects when administered to women, including a huskier voice and hirsutism.

(...)

The Isolation of Testosterone
Before Stanley and his fellow surgeons started performing transplant operations, other scientists had begun searching for a specific substance having androgenic properties. In 1911 A. Pezard discovered that the comb of a male capon grew in direct proportion to the amount of animal testicular extracts he injected into the bird. Over the next two decades researchers used this and similar animal tests to determine the androgenic effects of various substances isolated from large quantities of animal testicles or human urine. Their quest entered its final stage in 1931, when Adolf Butenandt managed to derive 15 milligrams of androsterone, a nontesticular male hormone, from 15,000 liters of policemen's urine. Within the next few years, several workers confirmed that the testes contained a more powerful androgenic factor than did urine--testosterone.
Three research teams, subsidized by competing pharmaceutical companies, raced to isolate the hormone and publish their results. On May 27, 1935, Karoly Gyula David and Ernst Laqueur and their colleagues, funded by the Organon company in Oss, the Netherlands (where Laqueur had long been the scientific adviser), submitted a now classic paper entitled "On Crystalline Male Hormone from Testicles (Testosterone)." On August 24 a German journal received from Butenandt and G. Hanisch, backed by Schering Corporation in Berlin, a paper describing "a method for preparing testosterone from cholesterol." And on August 31 the editors of "Helvetica Chimica Acta" received "On the Artificial Preparation of the Testicular Hormone Testosterone (Androsten-3-one-17-ol)" from Leopold Ruzicka and A. Wettstein, announcing a patent application in the name of Ciba. Butenandt and Ruzicka eventually shared the 1939 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for this discovery.
The struggle for the synthetic testosterone market had begun. By 1937 clinical trials in humans were already under way, employing injections of testosterone propionate, a slow-release derivative of testosterone, as well as oral doses of methyl testosterone, which is broken down in the body more slowly than is testosterone. These experiments were initially as haphazard and unregulated as the more primitive methods involving testicular extracts or transplants. In its early phase, however, synthetic testosterone therapy was reserved primarily for treating men with hypogonadism, allowing them to develop fully or maintain secondary sexual characteristics, and for those suffering from a poorly defined "male climacteric" that included impotence.''

Now, earlier in the thread someone pointed out that dianabol was the first steroid used by American lifters in 1956 and that Dr.Ziegler was the one who designed the drug. This is not 100% correct. Dr.Ziegler DID NOT have anything to do with the development of dianabol. CIBA pharmaceuticals developed the drug and asked Dr.Ziegler to distribute it to weightlifters (at the time Dr.Ziegler was the doctor for the US weightlifting team) so that they could gauge its effect under 'real life' circumstances (yeah, medical ethics were not the same then as they are now).

It IS true that dianabol became widely used by the mid 50s but it wasn't the first steroid used. Testosterone was experimented with in the last 40s and early 50s... the first 'wave' of experimenter were european athletes & bodybuilders as well as american athletes who would go to europe for certain periods of time. The second wave was in the early 50s when Dr.Ziegler (once again, the team doctor for the US weighlifting team) learned first hand from Soviet doctors that their lifters had been using testosterone preparations for a while.

Now, this doesn't prove that Steve Reeves used steroids; but it does show that he indeed had the possibility to do so... being one of the top bodybuilder in the world he was unbdoutably among the 'inside crowd' and he was traveling to europe quite often.

Dude if you are going to post crap, make sure you give the source, otherwise it appears that you are the fuckwit responsible for penning said crap

[CT]

Dude if you are going to post crap, make sure you give the source, otherwise it appears that you are the fuckwit responsible for penning said crap

Hoberman JM; Yesalis CE. The history of synthetic testosterone. Scientific American., Feb.1995;76,77

Some infos about the authors:

Charles E. Yesalis, M.P.H., Sc.D.
 
Dr. Yesalis received his Bachelor of Science and Master of Public Health degrees from the University of Michigan and he was awarded his doctoral degree by the Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health in 1975. He then joined the faculty at Johns Hopkins for one year. Dr. Yesalis was a member of the Department of Preventive Medicine and Environmental Health at the University of Iowa, College of Medicine from 1976-1986. From 1986-2006 he was Professor of Health Policy and Administration and Exercise and Sport Science at The Pennsylvania State University.

For the past twenty-eight years, much of Dr. Yesalis' research has been devoted to the non-medical use of anabolic-androgenic steroids (AS) and other performance-enhancing drugs and dietary supplements. In 1988 he directed the first national study of AS use among adolescents and was the first to present evidence of psychological dependence on AS. In addition, he has studied the incidence of AS use among elite power lifters, collegiate athletes, and professional football players. In 1993, using nationwide data, he demonstrated the association between AS use and violent behavior as well as an association with the use of other illicit drugs and alcohol. He also presented an estimate of lifetime AS use in the U.S. population (over one million). A recent study conducted by Dr. Yesalis showed a significant increase in AS use among teenage girls and boys since 1990. In 1998 he wrote The Steroids Game which focuses on prevention, education, and intervention regarding AS use by adolescents. He is the editor of a medical reference text, Anabolic Steroids in Sport and Exercise (2nd ed.) and co-editor of Performance Enhancing Substances in Sport and Exercise.

On six occasions he has been asked to testify before U.S. Congress on legislation related to the control of AS and growth hormone abuse. Dr. Yesalis has been a consultant to, among others, the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy, U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Food and Drug Administration, Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse: National Commission on Sports and Substance Abuse, the NFL Players Association, the U.S. Olympic Committee, the National Collegiate Athletic Association, and the National Strength and Conditioning Association.

Books published:

Bahrke, M. & Yesalis, C. (Eds.) Performance-Enhancing Drugs in Sport and Exercise, Human Kinetics, Champaign, IL, 2002.

Yesalis, C. (Ed.). Anabolic Steroids in Sport and Exercise (2nd ed.), Human Kinetics, Champaign, IL, 2000.

Yesalis, C. & Bahrke, M. Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids: Incidence of Use and Health Implications. President=s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports Research Digest, Series 5, No. 5, 2006.

 Yesalis, CE, Bahrke, MS. Anabolic steroid and stimulant use in North American sport between 1850 and 1980. Sport in History 25(3):434-451, 2006.

[Woten]

Yes we know who Chuck Yesalis is, clown

For now, I am sure some folks here would love a copy of the original article, I know I would, so if you be a gent and give us either a) a link to said piece or b) scan the original copy, we would be most gratefull

Good chap

[CT]

Yes we know who Chuck Yesalis is, clown

For now, I am sure some folks here would love a copy of the original article, I know I would, so if you be a gent and give us either a) a link to said piece or b) scan the original copy, we would be most gratefull

Good chap

I guess you'll just have to subscribe to the magazine! Or you can buy the whole article for around 5$ at: http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.cfm?fa=Products.ViewIssuePreview&ARTICLEID_CHAR=CF3AB494-6F4B-4336-9B13-5DF00AE51B3

There are some trunked copies of the article on the net, but their incompletedness will probably not satisfy you. Anyway, I do think that the parts I posted were to the point as they adressed the origin of the development of testosterone and the question was to prove that testosgterone was available in the 40s; and the part posted do show that it did.

As for scanning the copy; I'm presently traveling and all I have is my laptop and a wireless internet connection, sorry to dissapoint you.

[Woten]

I guess you'll just have to subscribe to the magazine! Or you can buy the whole article for around 5$ at: http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.cfm?fa=Products.ViewIssuePreview&ARTICLEID_CHAR=CF3AB494-6F4B-4336-9B13-5DF00AE51B3

There are some trunked copies of the article on the net, but their incompletedness will probably not satisfy you. Anyway, I do think that the parts I posted were to the point as they adressed the origin of the development of testosterone and the question was to prove that testosgterone was available in the 40s; and the part posted do show that it did.

As for scanning the copy; I'm presently traveling and all I have is my laptop and a wireless internet connection, sorry to dissapoint you.

CT, I'm just having a laugh, I've posted to you before, its friday and I'm bored

[CT]

CT, I'm just having a laugh, I've posted to you before, its friday and I'm bored

Fuck, and I just bought the online article to send it to ya! Well there goes my supper at the restaurant