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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2006, 04:31:56 PM »
Yes, I agree that small guys suffer in the comparisons. That happened to Dexter, too. Clearly those comparisons are important but so are inspecting images that are all the same size. Unless and until we include some objective judging we will always have controversial contests. Just because Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler overshadow Rockel doesn't mean they have superior physiques. From everything I have learned about bodybuilding I still say Rockel had the best physique on stage with Dexter Jackson and Victor Martinez competing for 2nd place. Coleman and Cutler have distorted physiques and have lost the beauty they once had.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2006, 04:32:57 PM »
I think weight classes are the only solution.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #77 on: October 19, 2006, 04:42:25 PM »
We had weight classes in the past but the heavier guy always won the overall. I have judged contests where the smaller guy won the overall. It merely needs better judges. Seems to me that is not going to be easy to find them.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #78 on: October 19, 2006, 04:46:25 PM »
..the proof of the pudding..

Jay owned Ronnie in that pic IMO. Ronnie may be more aesthetic, but you compare each bodypart and see who wins.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #79 on: October 19, 2006, 05:13:59 PM »
Bodybuilding was traditionally about having a beautiful, fully developed body. Size, proportions, symmetry and definition were important as well as general appearance. Somehow those ideals were lost and instead monsters with bizarre physiques were winning the Olympia. Rockel has a superior physique to Culter and is light years ahead of Coleman. Sure, Coleman is a giant and amazes wannabes. So what? Inspect his physique and compare each of the guys here. You might change your mind.

http://mr-olympia-2006.ronnie.cz/callouts/

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #80 on: October 19, 2006, 05:17:03 PM »
Hey Vince, do you think that you could bring Alexxx up to this naturally?

for the record..this to me is close to perfection for natural.
Here comes the money shot

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #81 on: October 19, 2006, 05:23:14 PM »
Alexxx doesn't have the vocabulary so he is a worry!

Here is Rockel looking better than Cutler.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #82 on: October 19, 2006, 05:26:54 PM »
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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #83 on: October 19, 2006, 06:35:48 PM »
Vince, after studying the callouts, Ronnie looks better than Jay in these shots:

Front lat spread - side chest

Jay edges him out in these:

Front double bi - Rear double bi - reat lat - side tri - front ab - most muscular.

I give Jay the nod in this case. His chest, lats and legs are all bigger and as/if not more detailed than Ronnie's.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #84 on: October 19, 2006, 06:58:03 PM »
Hey Vince, do you think that you could bring Alexxx up to this naturally?

for the record..this to me is close to perfection for natural.

Natural? How naive are you? Seriously. Jesus

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #85 on: October 20, 2006, 03:23:24 AM »
Natural? How naive are you? Seriously. Jesus
I agree with you Pobrecito! Some people here can't see the difference between a cow and a horse! It is obvious that this guy isn't natural!!!!
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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #86 on: October 20, 2006, 03:27:31 AM »
Alexxx doesn't have the vocabulary so he is a worry!

Here is Rockel looking better than Cutler.

Rockel better than Cutler?????? What a joke!!!!!
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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #87 on: October 20, 2006, 03:45:32 AM »
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Vince, I thought you would be beyond this kind of bullshit posting, Cuttler is obviously not locked into the pose yet.


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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #88 on: October 20, 2006, 03:57:32 AM »
Vince, I thought you would be beyond this kind of bullshit posting, Cuttler is obviously not locked into the pose yet.



Cutler still looks like a fridge



who has the bigger gut?
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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #89 on: October 20, 2006, 05:22:11 AM »
rockel looked good but the fact is he is just too small...line him up onstage next to jay and ronnie and he dissapears...its always nice to see guys with nice lines, small waist, ect...but bodybuilding is still a muscle contest first.


why call it bodybuilding? why not call it muscle building then?

yes Jay and Ronnie were 2 of the biggest but they look like shit compared to the smaller guys
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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #90 on: October 20, 2006, 08:04:17 AM »
Alexxx doesn't have the vocabulary so he is a worry!

Here is Rockel looking better than Cutler.


No, here is you posting favorable pictures again. Once again look at  how dark the shadows on Cutler are. Not to mention the angle favors Rockel. He still does not look better in that shot. He is just hitting the pose better. Jay looks about the same with about 50 lbs more muscle. Rockel has great shape but he is way to small to beat Ronnie and Jay. That is bodybuilding today. You post these pictures that are clearly bad shots of the person in question and claim that they tell the story. Everyone at the O including 5 of the most respected pros,Ron and most of the magazine editors where qouted on this very site saying Jay looked amazing and deserved his win. Pictures tell about 50 percent of the story.

Here is a shot of Jay and Ronnie fully in that pose. Clearly taking Rockel to school. he does have a better ab thigh than both Cutler and Coleman. But Jay and Ronnie own him on every other pose. It is not hard to find good pictures of  a BB and bad shots of others to try to prove an argument.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #91 on: October 20, 2006, 08:36:40 AM »
Jay is a great bodybuilder but has lost some body beauty in his quest for the title. He did what was necessary and the title is now his. Good for him. That still doesn't mean he looks better than Rockel. In the side by side comparisons I give it to Rockel as a better physique. If you compare the images at the same size then Rockel even looks bigger than Cutler in some poses which is amazing. I agree that when they stand next to each other Rockel looks small as does Dexter. I wasn't there so I really can't insist. However, when it comes to aesthetics there is no doubt Rockel is superior to everyone except Dexter. Rockel's proportions are better than Dexter's because of his calves.

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Re: Aesthetic and crap awards for the Mr Olympia contestants.
« Reply #92 on: October 21, 2006, 05:03:22 PM »
Vince, I thought you would be beyond this kind of bullshit posting, Cuttler is obviously not locked into the pose yet.



Vince, you are losing credibility with these bullshit posts of yours.