Pellius while I can't guarantee what gh15 reaction to you will be,he stated the door was open for a explanation as to why you just left and attacked him the way you did,When Wes left he left like a man on his own terms,He was well respected like you,Remember you not only walked out on gh15,You walked out on the team,I consider gh15 like family and have lots of respect for the old time vets over there bustin,lean,reardon pro wrest and the rest of old time great posters. Remember when I said gh15 looked after kids,Many times he has booted underage kids of the site,many times he has stated for kids to stay off narcotics,many times he has told young fellas to build a base before going on. Gh15 has also done many great things for homeless dogs,I could go on and on,So I felt I had to respond when you just ripped him to pieces. In a perfect world Wes would still be there posting,You would be fighting the good fight,However you choose to move on,I'm sure the members and gh15 can live with that,But I ask why leave on such ugly terms,going public with personal information. I only wish you could have read my real posts asking WW to stop with the narcotic talk as there are young kids here that can easily be influenced,only to be attacked,accused of homosexual acts,gay for pay and many other nasty things to get hormones,Just so you understand,They attacked Reardon the same,If one comes here to speak the truth,They attack like wolves in a pack,I have thick skin,the names they called me meant nothing,Because when one speaks the truth he has nothing to hide. This is the side you took,you came here,took you less then a few days to see what happens to ones posts if someone has a agenda,And we all know WW has A very big agenda. It's takes a very good man to leave the door open,Gh15 was your home.
I'll try to address all your points and I usually like to do it order as present for the sake of continuity but I will break from these guidelines to first address that I walked out on gh15 and walked out on "the team".
The board was down. I posted elsewhere. Simply as that. Now being on GetBig I was reminded how great it is to speak freely. To not have this feeling that I'm being watched and that I have to always be careful as to what I say and to have my posts censored or deleted entirely. In other words, I just liked posting here better. I am not bound in anyway to any board. I also post on other boards other than GetBig and gh15. I just recently posted on a Jiu-Jitsu site that I've been absent from for years. That use to be my home board and I would post there daily. Some of my best works are on that board and I was approach by one of the staff at adcombat to write a book about my experience with the Gracies during the early day. I was welcomed backed with open arms and no one thought that I walked out on them or betrayed them. Only gh15 thinks like that because he is a control freak.
I wanted to make clear why guys like me, Wes, Metal, JNN didn't really pay much attention to the threats to people and their families. It's not because we are bad people. I wanted people to understand the ethos or environment of that board. We didn't take him seriously because no serious adults there take him seriously. I just spoke openly about an unspoken truth. Maybe not Lean, but the fact that he serious refers to himself as the "gh15 Press Secretary" should be reason enough, that he is completely clueless as to how people just laugh and mock him as also being a little bit "out of it". So with the exception of the kids and Lean, people think that gh15 is just a little bit off. You do too but you can't say so publicly. Here people can say Ron is Schmoe and live to tell about it. Anything remotely negative said about gh15 is an instant ban. So people keep quiet. That's why he is so unaware of what the mood of the people is. That's why people just go about their business on that great board, with incredibly great people, and just stay out of the gh15 side of it. That's why I said there's two boards there. The gh15 board and the normal people board.
People can scream and cry all they want. But if I decide to go to that board to address any issues they have I want them to address specific examples. I speak the truth as I see it. When I say gh15 is nuts I have tons of examples to prove it. If someone wants to disprove me than I'm all ears. If their complaint is that these unspoken truths should have remained unspoken then we just simply have a different world view. In fact, I probably wouldn't have brought it up if it wasn't for the fact that I was defending the character of people I think were being unjustly persecuted. That's why I used the example of the corner street wacko predicting the end of the world. It's not that people ignore him in the strictest sense. I mean, he is there and he is making noise and you are aware of him. But people just don't acknowledge it. They hear noise but they're not listening. It's like when the adults speak in a Charlie Brown movie. It's all "womp, womp, womp".
People there are not bad people because they stay on a board where gh15 makes these threats. People are not bad people because they are on a board started by a crazy person. When he talks it's all "womp, womp, womp." And when he's done making noise then the members will ask people like BigCat, JoeyFlex, Metal, Guido, DannyD, Optimal Prime, Xsomething (I forget his name but then one with the long thread on the achieving the 70-80s type physique.... so when gh15 quiets down a bit the real members turn to those great and knowlegeable guys and say, "Now, getting back to what you are saying?"
You know what I'm talking about. Everyone knows what I'm talking about except gh15. That's why he's crazy.
Another thing is that there is shady stuff going on on that board. Lean has already been exposed for trying to shake down suppliers. Ergo told me himself about the shadiness of that board and that's why he left. gh15 lies about who he is and who is associated and affiliated with. He makes up stories to enhance his reputation and to seem more important than what he is. The board has become more and more like a cult. The way he watches everybody. Tries to control everything and anything. Unlike Wes who is stronger willed and has a more independent spirit than I do. I needed that push. It's only after I was away that I realize just how creepy that board and the whole scene is there.
I would be content on that board if I could have just remained anonymous and hang with the normal people. I would still be there now if that was the case. But because I was a mod and have a history with gh15 I couldn't just disappear into the masses like so many others can.
Again, I welcome any challenge or clarification to anything I say. I don't mind because I have no agenda other than the truth. In fact, I wish I was wrong. But he lied to me. He was the one to betray me. He played me for a fool and a chump. He publicly humiliated me. I wish gh15 was everything he claimed to be. But Valiant proved all that wrong.
"He has no credibility whatsoever he has been humiliated by a woman... twice. He tried to hurt me. Instead, I hurt him. Once a man, or even a male entity has been emasculated by a woman... well nothing more need be done."
-- Valiant