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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #8450 on: January 31, 2014, 07:07:25 PM »
Trying to maintain my objectivity I am not ashamed to say that Vince was an especially handsome individual. There is a robust and healthy appearance that was much more common in those days. Even his partner in the pic has the same look. With the emphasis on dry, vascular and 4 percent body fat gives a man a much more drawn and unhealthy look. And it's no wonder. It is unhealthy.

I remember when Arthur Jones wrote that he felt that about 10% body fat was ideal for health and for progression in resistance training.

Dan Aykroyd is/was a god amongst men.

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« Reply #8451 on: January 31, 2014, 07:09:28 PM »

No, I will not apologize whatever happens. It's not serious enough stuff to merit that.


Sorry, that's just the way it is - I guess that constitutes an apology, my friend.







OK, fair enough. I am often more interested in clarity than agreement and you're just making sounds that really has no meaning to you. I don't mean the words itself I mean the content of your statement.

But it did seem serious enough for you declare it publicly on a message board.

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« Reply #8452 on: January 31, 2014, 07:11:21 PM »
Dan Aykroyd is/was a god amongst men.

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Oh no doubt. A living legend. But he takes a back seat to a prime Vince Basile appearance wise.

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« Reply #8453 on: January 31, 2014, 07:13:09 PM »
Oh no doubt. A living legend. But he takes a back seat to a prime Vince Basile appearance wise.

I think they practically looked like brothers in their youths.




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« Reply #8454 on: January 31, 2014, 07:19:41 PM »


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« Reply #8455 on: January 31, 2014, 07:22:16 PM »



From this angle, I can't even tell the difference..

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« Reply #8456 on: January 31, 2014, 07:52:48 PM »
I got an immediate reply from Ron and I'm very relieved and impressed.

Pellius while I can't guarantee what gh15 reaction to you will be,he stated the door was open for a explanation as to why you just left and attacked him the way you did,When Wes left he left like a man on his own terms,He was well respected like you,Remember you not only walked out on gh15,You walked out on the team,I consider gh15 like family and have lots of respect for the old time vets over there bustin,lean,reardon pro wrest and the rest of old time great posters. Remember when I said gh15 looked after kids,Many times he has booted underage kids of the site,many times he has stated for kids to stay off narcotics,many times he has told young fellas to build a base before going on. Gh15 has also done many great things for homeless dogs,I could go on and on,So I felt I had to respond when you just ripped him to pieces. In a perfect world Wes would still be there posting,You would be fighting the good fight,However you choose to move on,I'm sure the members and gh15 can live with that,But I ask why leave on such ugly terms,going public with personal information. I only wish you could have read my real posts asking WW to stop with the narcotic talk as there are young kids here that can easily be influenced,only to be attacked,accused of homosexual acts,gay for pay and many other nasty things to get hormones,Just so you understand,They attacked Reardon the same,If one comes here to speak the truth,They attack like wolves in a pack,I have thick skin,the names they called me meant nothing,Because when one speaks the truth he has nothing to hide. This is the side you took,you came here,took you less then a few days to see what happens to ones posts if someone has a agenda,And we all know WW has A very big agenda. It's takes a very good man to leave the door open,Gh15 was your home.





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« Reply #8457 on: January 31, 2014, 08:07:21 PM »



Well, well. I stand corrected. When you show pics when they are both about the same age then you are quite right.

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« Reply #8458 on: January 31, 2014, 08:37:22 PM »

Vince looks a lot like a young Tab Hunter in that pic with the great Leo Roberts.

Nice shot Vince!!

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« Reply #8459 on: January 31, 2014, 08:41:03 PM »
^^Actually,Vince looks far better than a young Tab Hunter.

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« Reply #8460 on: January 31, 2014, 08:46:39 PM »
When I started lifting weights back in 1958 I looked up to the champions like Reeves, Grimek, Eiferman, Pearl, Ross and Park. There were others as well. It was really something to be a champion and a he-man. Contrast that to today where most Getbiggers hide behind anonymity and seldom post a photo. If they do they make sure they are not recognized. I mean, what the heck is this hiding bullshit? What is there to be afraid of? There is the ultimate pussy, gh15, who is not only a consummate bullshitter but gutless as well. Guys like Pellius, Wes and me are from a different era when what one said meant something. Integrity was everything in those days.
Problem is, Wes aside, you guys of a 'different era' spout a lot of nonsense.

/ my bad. put wes back in.    ;D 

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« Reply #8461 on: January 31, 2014, 08:52:19 PM »
Problem is, Wes aside, you guys of a 'different era' spout a lot of nonsense.

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« Reply #8462 on: January 31, 2014, 08:59:36 PM »
Pellius while I can't guarantee what gh15 reaction to you will be,he stated the door was open for a explanation as to why you just left and attacked him the way you did,When Wes left he left like a man on his own terms,He was well respected like you,Remember you not only walked out on gh15,You walked out on the team,I consider gh15 like family and have lots of respect for the old time vets over there bustin,lean,reardon pro wrest and the rest of old time great posters. Remember when I said gh15 looked after kids,Many times he has booted underage kids of the site,many times he has stated for kids to stay off narcotics,many times he has told young fellas to build a base before going on. Gh15 has also done many great things for homeless dogs,I could go on and on,So I felt I had to respond when you just ripped him to pieces. In a perfect world Wes would still be there posting,You would be fighting the good fight,However you choose to move on,I'm sure the members and gh15 can live with that,But I ask why leave on such ugly terms,going public with personal information. I only wish you could have read my real posts asking WW to stop with the narcotic talk as there are young kids here that can easily be influenced,only to be attacked,accused of homosexual acts,gay for pay and many other nasty things to get hormones,Just so you understand,They attacked Reardon the same,If one comes here to speak the truth,They attack like wolves in a pack,I have thick skin,the names they called me meant nothing,Because when one speaks the truth he has nothing to hide. This is the side you took,you came here,took you less then a few days to see what happens to ones posts if someone has a agenda,And we all know WW has A very big agenda. It's takes a very good man to leave the door open,Gh15 was your home.



I'll try to address all your points and I usually like to do it order as present for the sake of continuity but I will break from these guidelines to first address that I walked out on gh15 and walked out on "the team".

The board was down. I posted elsewhere. Simply as that. Now being on GetBig I was reminded how great it is to speak freely. To not have this feeling that I'm being watched and that I have to always be careful as to what I say and to have my posts censored or deleted entirely. In other words, I just liked posting here better. I am not bound in anyway to any board. I also post on other boards other than GetBig and gh15. I just recently posted on a Jiu-Jitsu site that I've been absent from for years. That use to be my home board and I would post there daily. Some of my best works are on that board and I was approach by one of the staff at adcombat to write a book about my experience with the Gracies during the early day. I was welcomed backed with open arms and no one thought that I walked out on them or betrayed them. Only gh15 thinks like that because he is a control freak.

I wanted to make clear why guys like me, Wes, Metal, JNN didn't really pay much attention to the threats to people and their families. It's not because we are bad people. I wanted people to understand the ethos or environment of that board. We didn't take him seriously because no serious adults there take him seriously. I just spoke openly about an unspoken truth. Maybe not Lean, but the fact that he serious refers to himself as the "gh15 Press Secretary" should be reason enough, that he is completely clueless as to how people just laugh and mock him as also being a little bit "out of it". So with the exception of the kids and Lean, people think that gh15 is just a little bit off. You do too but you can't say so publicly. Here people can say Ron is Schmoe and live to tell about it. Anything remotely negative said about gh15 is an instant ban. So people keep quiet. That's why he is so unaware of what the mood of the people is. That's why people just go about their business on that great board, with incredibly great people, and just stay out of the gh15 side of it. That's why I said there's two boards there. The gh15 board and the normal people board.

People can scream and cry all they want. But if I decide to go to that board to address any issues they have I want them to address specific examples. I speak the truth as I see it. When I say gh15 is nuts I have tons of examples to prove it. If someone wants to disprove me than I'm all ears. If their complaint is that these unspoken truths should have remained unspoken then we just simply have a different world view. In fact, I probably wouldn't have brought it up if it wasn't for the fact that I was defending the character of people I think were  being unjustly persecuted. That's why I used the example of the corner street wacko predicting the end of the world. It's not that people ignore him in the strictest sense. I mean, he is there and he is making noise and you are aware of him. But people just don't acknowledge it. They hear noise but they're not listening. It's like when the adults speak in a Charlie Brown movie. It's all "womp, womp, womp".

People there are not bad people because they stay on a board where gh15 makes these threats. People are not bad people because they are on a board started by a crazy person. When he talks it's all "womp, womp, womp." And when he's done making noise then the members will ask people like BigCat, JoeyFlex, Metal, Guido, DannyD, Optimal Prime, Xsomething (I forget his name but then one with the long thread on the achieving the 70-80s type physique.... so when gh15 quiets down a bit the real members turn to those great and knowlegeable guys and say, "Now, getting back to what you are saying?"

You know what I'm talking about. Everyone knows what I'm talking about except gh15. That's why he's crazy.

Another thing is that there is shady stuff going on on that board. Lean has already been exposed for trying to shake down suppliers. Ergo told me himself about the shadiness of that board and that's why he left. gh15 lies about who he is and who is associated and affiliated with.  He makes up stories to enhance his reputation and to seem more important than what he is. The board has become more and more like a cult. The way he watches everybody. Tries to control everything and anything. Unlike Wes who is stronger willed and has a more independent spirit than I do. I needed that push. It's only after I was away that I realize just how creepy that board and the whole scene is there.

I would be content on that board if I could have just remained anonymous and hang with the normal people. I would still be there now if that was the case. But because I was a mod and have a history with gh15 I couldn't just disappear into the masses like so many others can.

Again, I welcome any challenge or clarification to anything I say. I don't mind because I have no agenda other than the truth. In fact, I wish I was wrong. But he lied to me. He was the one to betray me. He played me for a fool and a chump. He publicly humiliated me.  I wish gh15 was everything he claimed to be. But Valiant proved all that wrong.

"He has no credibility whatsoever he has been humiliated by a woman... twice. He tried to hurt me. Instead, I hurt him. Once a man, or even a male entity has been emasculated by a woman... well nothing more need be done."

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #8463 on: January 31, 2014, 09:03:23 PM »
Jesus, are you kidding me with that War and Peace bullshit?

Pellius, less is more.

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« Reply #8464 on: January 31, 2014, 09:32:19 PM »
Jesus, are you kidding me with that War and Peace bullshit?

Pellius, less is more.

The intended audience is gh15 . org

They follow this board a lot closer than the people here do. Every word will be read and reported to gh15.

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« Reply #8465 on: January 31, 2014, 09:50:52 PM »
The intended audience is gh15 . org

They follow this board a lot closer than the people here do. Every word will be read and reported to gh15.

Why hasn't Valiant nuked that shit yet? Fuck this turd.

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« Reply #8466 on: January 31, 2014, 10:05:31 PM »
When I started lifting weights back in 1958 I looked up to the champions like Reeves, Grimek, Eiferman, Pearl, Ross and Park. There were others as well. It was really something to be a champion and a he-man. Contrast that to today where most Getbiggers hide behind anonymity and seldom post a photo. If they do they make sure they are not recognized. I mean, what the heck is this hiding bullshit? What is there to be afraid of? There is the ultimate pussy, gh15, who is not only a consummate bullshitter but gutless as well. Guys like Pellius, Wes and me are from a different era when what one said meant something. Integrity was everything in those days.

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« Reply #8467 on: February 01, 2014, 12:07:28 AM »
Why hasn't Valiant nuked that shit yet? Fuck this turd.

Read the sentence in bold from the essay. It's over.

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« Reply #8468 on: February 01, 2014, 02:21:24 AM »
Checking over VintageYork's post history it's obvious to me now his posts were tampered with. It was on the Steroid board so obviously it was WhiteWidow. Only he is low enough to do that.

When mods start rewriting other people's post it destroys the credibility of the board. And now anybody can deny anything that was previously said simply by denying he ever wrote it.

If you believe that you speak the truth there is no reason to lie or cheat.

It was not me you fucking asshole! Don't go blaming me for something I did not do just because you don't like me because I was right about the kigs being bunk and I gave you some shit because you have had legal issues involving gear and multiple seizures were they even did a controll delivery at your house! I don't even know what you are talking about! I never fucked with this guys posts! I don;t even know who the fuck he is!

I know he can't type worth shit and needs to learn how to use paragraphs but that is all I know about this Vintage NY guy! If I were the type of person to change posts don;t you think I would of fucked with your posts pellius? Pellius you are a odd man! One minute you are asking me and trusting me to remail you your HGH and when I said no because I didn't want to be blamed if they were bunk or anything was missing you started to hate on me, and guess what you had S do it and the kits were all bunk yet you told me they were good at first then weeks later you found out they were bunk! Now if I shipped you those kits you probably would of blamed me and said I tampered with those kits, I just know it!

Your just jealous because you know for a fact I have a great method for getting multiple packs in wich I don't even do anymore because that guy got busted, even if he was still in business I am all done with that kind of activity. That is all in the past! I don;t do that shit anymore. I have always been open about how I made some bad choices when I was younger and got very lucky and quite while I was ahead. Now I just get HRT doses and small amounts of USA HGH that is prescribed! I have not ordered any AAS in huge bulk in a few years!

I have not said anything bad about you in a year or two so why would you blame this shit on me? When have I ever done that in the past and to who? You need to check your fucking self before posting up this bullshit you fucking small time peddler!I told you that Gh15 was no good! He has ran alot of diffrent scams for cash! I know you Gh15 cult members would never believe me but the facts are there and yes he has put a bounty on certain people and their family.

The guy sells narcotics and gives out shitty prizes for ratting out any competition. If there ever was a shitbag Gh15 is it! I am in no way oerfect myself but I have never took a dime from anybody and have never referred any bunk product to people. I have only referred the best to people. I was not the one claiming how great kigtropin was and how it was double dosed and made your physique change in 48 hours that Gh15 prick did all that and what did you get pellius? bunk kits that did shit! You guys just hate me because I was always right about this prick and those kits plus theother scams he pulled! I could type 3 pages about all the fucked up shit Gh15 did but I don't have time!

I love how he got bigher 5 grand for his dog when bigher didn;t need the money! Why would bigher need the money? he had two incomes his and his girlfriends plus they both have parents, Bigher had thousands to spend on strangos gear and HGH kits but all of a sudden is broke and needs 5 grand when his dog supposively gets sick-LOl no vet expects a patient to pay the whole bill at once especially if it is 5 grand ,you can make payment arrangements.

I know that was all bullshit Bigher and his girlfriend had enough money, he sure had a huge budget to blow on HGH and steroids plus they both have credit cards. Bottom line like I said and asked around no vet expects a patient to have 5 grand all at once payment arrangements can be made! Scams and scams and scams! hell Gh15 probably charged you guys money everytime you posted or banned members for not donating-lol. Gh15 probably also charges his sources a outrageous fee to post their list. The guy is a great con-man! I can proudly say I have never pulled any shadey shit like Gh15 has or made horrible referrals,If I did somebody give an example with proof!won;t happen because I have never done anything but refer the best sources and never tried running weird scams,never threatened anybody or their family. If i was a shadey person pellius i would of had you had all those HGH kits shipped to me and made up a story about how they got lost but that is not me, instead I rejected the offer due to the fact I didn;t want to hear your shit if the kits were bunk and having you blame me and the kits did end up being bunk so I am glad I had nothing to do with that!and you know you asked me to remail you those 18 kits,dont lie!I said no!

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« Reply #8469 on: February 01, 2014, 02:41:05 AM »
many posts going unread in this thread.

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« Reply #8470 on: February 01, 2014, 03:00:11 AM »
Well, I posted earlier on gh15's board saying that I will address any questions or concerns. My only request is that I be allowed to speak freely and openly. No editing or deleting any of my responses.
I posted an email I wrote to Kohl explain why I left. I said that if I come back tomorrow and the post I just wrote on the gh15 board has been deleted then that will tell me that they have no intention of allowing me to speak freely.

If you believe in the truth and on the side of right and good then you should have nothing to hide. You will welcome everything coming out in the open for all to see.

My post was deleted in a matter of minutes.

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« Reply #8471 on: February 01, 2014, 03:11:45 AM »
When I was on the gh15 I read where gh15 past an order prohibiting anyone from coming on this board to defend him when I said that I welcome any and all challenges to prove me wrong. Now why would he do that? Why would he not want anybody coming here to defend him?

Because he knows me. He knows what I will do to all comers. That I will handily dispatch them all much like when Sir Pellias defeated sixty knights in a great tournament in order to present the unworthy Lady Ettard the jousting crown.


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« Reply #8472 on: February 01, 2014, 03:16:45 AM »
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« Reply #8473 on: February 01, 2014, 03:40:30 AM »
why is this thread still going on?

GH15 account died when Nasser died. If you read alot of what gh15 wrote over the years alot of it is stuff that Nasser used to reference. Do the math morons...

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« Reply #8474 on: February 01, 2014, 03:42:57 AM »
why is this thread still going on?

GH15 account died when Nasser died. If you read alot of what gh15 wrote over the years alot of it is stuff that Nasser used to reference. Do the math morons...
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