Gh15? Who was GH15?

[kohl]

kohl

can you answer why you were posting on gh15s site before it went down

about registering an account here purely to undermine the board and kill it off

when gh 15 came up with the great idea of taking over

hardly the words of a man without an agenda 

Complete and utter bullshit. I was a member here before I was a member on gh15. My low post count is thanks to "1" who was so kind to delete a few hundreds posts of mine (99% nothing to do with gh15) in a rage of paranoia, but I forgive him, he's a good jewish brother.

I always posted under my own name on both boards, and never on another name. Seen the fact that Ron keeps track of the IP adresses, that can easily be checked, isn't it?

When gh15 talked about the "take over" after having forbidden his members to post on getbig for some time, I was just happy to be able to post on getbig again, but was mistaken as an "intrudor" by our dear friend "1".

My only agenda is my own business. Like in REAL LIFE business, if you know what I mean (which I doubt).

Bodybuilding is a lifestyle I've been living for a quarter of a century, and in all honesty, I recognize my lifestyle more in the gh15 character then in you. Being somebody outside bodybuilding, and trying to do something for bodybuilders without pursuing profit (because no need to). I guess you have difficulties imagining either of those.

[kohl]

Oh, they do...

Post removed by OneMoreRep at the request of a party involved.

That is just one instance.

"1"

!!!!!!!

[kohl]

Nothing but bull shit. Everything ends up in a data base to be used at a later date if needed. For example, a source goes down who has your info. Your info goes into LE db. Years later you order gear that some how gets seized. You try to deny it but le has record of you ordering in the past. Use your head just a little.

At least with "1" the discussion is an intelligent one.

Draw a number.

[4thAD]

Youve been involved with BB for 25 years, but as an adult you wouldn't post here because gh15 said you couldn't? Your quite the little follower aren't you lmao

[Palpatine Q]

Kigs once had a good reputation also.

If there is one with an agenda, it's you.

Kigs had  good rep for about three days

And your buddy pushed them for a year......no agenda....LOLOL.

[OneMoreRep]

!!!!!!!

I don't know if that's the case with all customers, but what I have seen is that they will target the sources and then go after the customers who they sell to, who also happen to be local dealers.

The local dealers clearly have no clue that they're names are now up for grabs for new investigations and typically when they do get caught, it involves a form of "Parallel Construction" that allows for LE to pin another charge on them for something relatively benign and then progresses to a bigger investigation that unearths their drug dealing ways.

That nonsense occurs every day in the Washington Heights & Harlem area of New York City.

"1"

[4thAD]

I don't know if that's the case with all customers, but what I have seen is that they will target the sources and then go after the customers who they sell to, who also happen to be local dealers.

The local dealers clearly have no clue that they're names are now up for grabs for new investigations and typically when they do get caught, it involves a form of "Parallel Construction" that allows for LE to pin another charge on them for something relatively benign and then progresses to a bigger investigation that unearths their drug dealing ways.

That nonsense occurs every day in the Washington Heights & Harlem area of New York City.

"1"

Normally they will not go after end users unless they have ordered in very large quantity. Still everything goes into a db. When SSB went down during ORD they collected so much damn info. The more info they get the harder it is for us to successfully get good gear.

[OneMoreRep]

Update: The Valiant account has now been approved by Ron.

I will send Valiant a message outlining the rules of our forum as dictated by Ron.

One of my prior posts was modified at the request of a close family friend.

"1"

[monstermunch]

Snitch15 

[kohl]

Youve been involved with BB for 25 years, but as an adult you wouldn't post here because gh15 said you couldn't? Your quite the little follower aren't you lmao

I have a life outside the internet boards (can you imagine that for yourself?) so it was not that hard, and I knew he was going to come back on that decision anyway, I know he's kind of impulsive but at the end he always shows common sense, more then some members on his own board. I actually remember him defending Wes against boardmembers who wanted Wes to be banned.

Wes did a great thing. He just did it and got away with it because gh15 appreciated him for being a real bodybuilder. I have to admit that other real bodybuilders (knowledgable 40+ guys) were refraining from telling what was on our mind, not being afraid of gh15 himself but being afraid of certain (young) mods banning us from what we saw as a unique place to exchange experience and knowledge without being ennoyed by 18 year olds who never touched a weight in there life but just want to be noticed by big guys on a bodybuilding forum. So yes, in that way you're right, I shouldn't have let somebody tell me not to post somewhere, but I'm not the guy who does that secretly using another name and I didn't feel like standing up against it on that very moment.

When gh15 reappears (and he will), I guarantee you that the older guys will be more straightforward towards him. An advanced bodybuilder site is not built on losers and kids in their early twenties. But that is something he has been starting to understand since a few months now.

I just hope "1" doesn't see this as promoting... ;-)

(if you do: delete it)

[Shockwave]

I have a life outside the internet boards (can you imagine that for yourself?) so it was not that hard, and I knew he was going to come back on that decision anyway, I know he's kind of impulsive but at the end he always shows common sense, more then some members on his own board. I actually remember him defending Wes against boardmembers who wanted Wes to be banned.

Wes did a great thing. He just did it and got away with it because gh15 appreciated him for being a real bodybuilder. I have to admit that other real bodybuilders (knowledgable 40+ guys) were refraining from telling what was on our mind, not being afraid of gh15 himself but being afraid of certain (young) mods banning us from what we saw as a unique place to exchange experience and knowledge without being ennoyed by 18 year olds who never touched a weight in there life but just want to be noticed by big guys on a bodybuilding forum. So yes, in that way you're right, I shouldn't have let somebody tell me not to post somewhere, but I'm not the guy who does that secretly using another name and I didn't feel like standing up against it on that very moment.

When gh15 reappears (and he will), I guarantee you that the older guys will be more straightforward towards him. An advanced bodybuilder site is not built on losers and kids in their early twenties. But that is something he has been starting to understand since a few months now.

I just hope "1" doesn't see this as promoting... ;-)

(if you do: delete it)

What the fuck is it with some of you older guys and taking the internet so seriously? I guarantee you that you're getting played by a person laughing in their chair at how seriously you're making these things......

[pellius]

You're a loser. I'm not a criminal and neither is bigmc. Keep drinking the koolaid. I've never sold a drug, committed a crime or been arrested. I just had a criminal record check because I went on a field trip with exchange students. Does this sound like something a criminal would do? Tutor and chauffeur international students in my free time, paying for a criminal record check and showing highschool students around from other countries and tour guiding.

Why did kids at my gym think they were going to get a bounty on GH and snap up pictures of me training? My phone number and address are also not public information as I'm unlisted and that was given by a member who sent me legal supplements. He was probably coerced with promises of free drugs as well. Lord knows you guys keep reposting my bounty threads. Everyone there keeps telling me the threads have been revived.

You will die alone, pellius. There was a time when I looked up towards you, but now I pity you. I don't wish you harm or ill will because you're sad and pathetic. I stood up when everyone there sank to despicable levels and that's why there's so much aggression towards me. The anger is compounded because people with morals and logic agree with me. I've still done nothing wrong to this day and you know it.

I really don't know what's wrong with you. I never said you are a criminal. You simply misread my post and having yet another meltdown. Read again"

"I rarely went on that "filt" board. It seemed just the same old, same old. Whitewidow is filt and a criminal. Dustin is filt and a criminal. Bigmc filt and criminal."

When you were banned and everybody was jumping on the "Dustin is filt" bandwagon to ingratiate themselves with gh15 only two people stood up for you: Me and Metal. When I got word that Homophoric came over here to attack you in the most vicious way I was the first to come over here and defend you. I went back to the mod section on gh15 and raise hell. That this person was embarrassing our board with his racist and vicious attacks and threats. That person that sent you "legal supplements" was not coerce or bribed to do anything. He came out openly against you explain how you came to him crying about your low testosterone but didn't have any money and needed help. So he sent you free "supplements" and regretted it and gave gh15 or Lean your address. Then I get some ranting PM from you calling me a coward and having no integrity. I was completely unaware of what was on that "GetBig filt" board because I never went on it. It was only when someone contacted me about "1" that I went on it and deleted that information on him. How many people do you think would unilaterally delete information on gh15's hit board? Zero. Except me. So imagine how I felt being one of the few to openly defend you, getting nothing but shit for it and then called a traitor and a coward in that meltdown PM from you? Of all the people that jumped on the band wagon and threw you under the bus you came after me.

You admitted to past drug use, suicidal tendencies, begging for free supplements, turning on one of the very few that stood up for you, always seemed like on the verge of a nervous breakdown on our board ("Burned by the cult! Burned by the cult!") and I am the pathetic one? You just seem to me to be an emotional unstable individual. OK. Live and let live.

[pellius]

gh 15

is boasting about reporting his suppliers to the DEA


what a cu nt

shitting on the hands that fed him

let this be a lesson to the whole industry

do not trust him do not supply for him

Do you have a link to this?

[kohl]

What the fuck is it with some of you older guys and taking the internet so seriously? I guarantee you that you're getting played by a person laughing in their chair at how seriously you're making these things......

I don't take the internet seriously, you will never see me with 1000's of posts. Bad luck for you guys but I'm on a vacation so I have some time to post and ennoy the shit out of you.

Only the fools get played, and I don't care about fools. Most older guys are wise enough to distinguish the juvenile bullshit from things that matter for our lifestyle. Every serious bodybuilder has, in one way or another, been entertained by the gh15 phenomenon since 2005, here on getbig and then on the other side. No one can deny that.

[Shockwave]

I really don't know what's wrong with you. I never said you are a criminal. You simply misread my post and having yet another meltdown. Read again"

"I rarely went on that "filt" board. It seemed just the same old, same old. Whitewidow is filt and a criminal. Dustin is filt and a criminal. Bigmc filt and criminal."

When you were banned and everybody was jumping on the "Dustin is filt" bandwagon to ingratiate themselves with gh15 only two people stood up for you: Me and Metal. When I got word that Homophoric came over here to attack you in the most vicious way I was the first to come over here and defend you. I went back to the mod section on gh15 and raise hell. That this person was embarrassing our board with his racist and vicious attacks and threats. That person that sent you "legal supplements" was not coerce or bribed to do anything. He came out openly against you explain how you came to him crying about your low testosterone but didn't have any money and needed help. So he sent you free "supplements" and regretted it and gave gh15 or Lean your address. Then I get some ranting PM from you calling me a coward and having no integrity. I was completely unaware of what was on that "GetBig filt" board because I never went on it. It was only when someone contacted me about "1" that I went on it and deleted that information on him. How many people do you think would unilaterally delete information on gh15's hit board? Zero. Except me. So imagine how I felt being one of the few to openly defend you, getting nothing but shit for it and then called a traitor and a coward in that meltdown PM from you? Of all the people that jumped on the band wagon and threw you under the bus you came after me.

You admitted to past drug use, suicidal tendencies, begging for free supplements, turning on one of the very few that stood up for you, always seemed like on the verge of a nervous breakdown on our board ("Burned by the cult! Burned by the cult!") and I am the pathetic one? You just seem to me to be an emotional unstable individual. OK. Live and let live.

Maybe you can answer it Pellius...

Why is it so many of you older guys take what goes on on and internet message board so seriously?
I mean, these are guys that you'll probably never meet in your life, many are anonymous and are flat out lying to you (GH15 himself is anonymous, yet many older guys chose to follow this troll around like a lapdog, meanwhile he's laughing at grown men who're listening to a anonymous dude they've never met on a message board like it's life and death)....
So many people get kicks out of getting others to believe they're someone they're not... and in GH15's case, he practically started his own little cult of people that listened to everything he said! I mean, you guys get on here and act like people you are working with or are friends IRL are insulting you.... These people are not your friends. They are not real people, they are internet posters.

Yet you guys allow yourself to get so wrapped up and take it seriously, while the other guys are laughing and toying with you. Clearly you must see that you guys are the ones losing, not the anonymous dude that won't post a pic when you challenge him or call him a liar..... they win when you either
A.Get mad

or

B.Take them seriously.

So what is it? Why can't you separate reality from the internet?

[Shockwave]

I don't take the internet seriously, you will never see me with 1000's of posts. Bad luck for you guys but I'm on a vacation so I have some time to post and ennoy the shit out of you.

Only the fools get played, and I don't care about fools. Most older guys are wise enough to distinguish the juvenile bullshit from things that matter for our lifestyle. Every serious bodybuilder has, in one way or another, been entertained by the gh15 phenomenon since 2005, here on getbig and then on the other side. No one can deny that.

That entire paragraph above just shows how seriously you took the internet......

Wes did a great thing. He just did it and got away with it because gh15 appreciated him for being a real bodybuilder. I have to admit that other real bodybuilders (knowledgable 40+ guys) were refraining from telling what was on our mind, not being afraid of gh15 himself but being afraid of certain (young) mods banning us from what we saw as a unique place to exchange experience and knowledge without being ennoyed by 18 year olds who never touched a weight in there life but just want to be noticed by big guys on a bodybuilding forum. So yes, in that way you're right, I shouldn't have let somebody tell me not to post somewhere, but I'm not the guy who does that secretly using another name and I didn't feel like standing up against it on that very moment.

Can you not see how pathetic this sounds?

[kohl]

That entire paragraph above just shows how seriously you took the internet......

Can you not see how pathetic this sounds?

Can you see how pathetic your words sound coming from somebody with 16000 posts?

And let me guess... you look like shit?

[Shockwave]

Can you see how pathetic your words sound coming from somebody with 16000 posts?

And let me guess... you look like shit?

jesus christ I ask you a question and you instantly prove my point.

good job.

[Van_Bilderass]

I would still like to see the proof OMR has that the gh15 account was started by the 4 posters
he mentions. He says there are screen caps, "logs", all these proofs of public communications
on this board. Why not post the proof and settle it once and for all? I mean he says all of it has been shown many times in the past (I never saw it despite being here almost every day). Alternately I would trust Ron if he backed OMR here in this thread, but I know he won't get involved. If Ron said, "yes the account was started by those guys, we all knew it from the start but we allowed it to go on for years for fun and games" then I would trust him. I remember Bob Chick even asked Nasser about it but why would he when he was a mod here and friend of Ron's and knew it was just Alex, Block and Special Ed (along with their davidpaul gimmick account) fucking around?

The only one who "admitted" to using the account was Alex, the rest deny it.
Everyone on this board knows Alex is a major bullshitter and master gimmicker bordering on the insane, so no one in their right mind would trust his word. OMR says he suspects Alex probably was posting from the account until Nasser's death and now he's back here instead stinking up the place. Really? Why in the fuck is Alex still welcomed on this board then, why is OMR friendly with Alex still?

Why am I harping on this? I'm just curious. I want to know how right or wrong I am. I've followed this saga from the start and everyone "knows" who did what but I have seen zero proof or even a very likely explanation. I'm really fucking curious.

I have no interest in buying/selling drugs on the net, unlike many on this thread. I think the majority in this scene are fucking retards as all this drama proves.

[Shockwave]

I would still like to see the proof OMR has that the gh15 account was started by the 4 posters
he mentions. He says there are screen caps, "logs", all these proofs of public communications
on this board. Why not post the proof and settle it once and for all? I mean he says all of it has been shown many times in the past (I never saw it despite being here almost every day). Alternately I would trust Ron if he backed OMR here in this thread, but I know he won't get involved. If Ron said, "yes the account was started by those guys, we all knew it from the start but we allowed it to go on for years for fun and games" then I would trust him. I remember Bob Chick even asked Nasser about it but why would he when he was a mod here and friend of Ron's and knew it was just Alex, Block and Special Ed (along with their davidpaul gimmick account) fucking around?

The only one who "admitted" to using the account was Alex, the rest deny it.
Everyone on this board knows Alex is a major bullshitter and master gimmicker bordering on the insane, so no one in their right mind would trust his word. OMR says he suspects Alex probably was posting from the account until Nasser's death and now he's back here instead stinking up the place. Really? Why in the fuck is Alex still welcomed on this board then, why is OMR friendly with Alex still?

Why am I harping on this? I'm just curious. I want to know how right or wrong I am. I've followed this saga from the start and everyone "knows" who did what but I have seen zero proof or even a very likely explanation. I'm really fucking curious.

I have no interest in buying/selling drugs on the net, unlike many on this thread. I think the majority in this scene are fucking retards as all this drama proves.

The E drama is beyond me. Half these dudes are middle age actinf like high school chicks on facebook do. Are these guys like this in real life? I cant fathom how grown ass men allow themselves to get all worked up by people they dont know and will never meet.

Its asinine.

[Chubz]

I don't take the internet seriously, you will never see me with 1000's of posts. Bad luck for you guys but I'm on a vacation so I have some time to post and ennoy the shit out of you.

Only the fools get played, and I don't care about fools. Most older guys are wise enough to distinguish the juvenile bullshit from things that matter for our lifestyle. Every serious bodybuilder has, in one way or another, been entertained by the gh15 phenomenon since 2005, here on getbig and then on the other side. No one can deny that.

^^^^^^THIS Who the Fuck has time to post over 10,000 posts? work a job and be a competitive bodybuillder? gh15 had some knowledgeable guys over there and for me it was an entertaining sight, I made a few good friends over. I will agree 1000% I could not believe some of the young kids and the stacks they claimed they took and they looked like they barely lifted. if you read this Wes Hi from Chubz, I really think you are a great guy..............gotta go now you non lifters and get this 2-1/2 cups of rice and steak down my throat, cuz i aint got time to post and prep for a show

[El Diablo Blanco]

I would still like to see the proof OMR has that the gh15 account was started by the 4 posters
he mentions. He says there are screen caps, "logs", all these proofs of public communications
on this board. Why not post the proof and settle it once and for all? I mean he says all of it has been shown many times in the past (I never saw it despite being here almost every day). Alternately I would trust Ron if he backed OMR here in this thread, but I know he won't get involved. If Ron said, "yes the account was started by those guys, we all knew it from the start but we allowed it to go on for years for fun and games" then I would trust him. I remember Bob Chick even asked Nasser about it but why would he when he was a mod here and friend of Ron's and knew it was just Alex, Block and Special Ed (along with their davidpaul gimmick account) fucking around?

The only one who "admitted" to using the account was Alex, the rest deny it.
Everyone on this board knows Alex is a major bullshitter and master gimmicker bordering on the insane, so no one in their right mind would trust his word. OMR says he suspects Alex probably was posting from the account until Nasser's death and now he's back here instead stinking up the place. Really? Why in the fuck is Alex still welcomed on this board then, why is OMR friendly with Alex still?

Why am I harping on this? I'm just curious. I want to know how right or wrong I am. I've followed this saga from the start and everyone "knows" who did what but I have seen zero proof or even a very likely explanation. I'm really fucking curious.

I have no interest in buying/selling drugs on the net, unlike many on this thread. I think the majority in this scene are fucking retards as all this drama proves.

Precisely why he is GH15

[OneMoreRep]

I would still like to see the proof OMR has that the gh15 account was started by the 4 posters
he mentions. He says there are screen caps, "logs", all these proofs of public communications
on this board. Why not post the proof and settle it once and for all? I mean he says all of it has been shown many times in the past (I never saw it despite being here almost every day). Alternately I would trust Ron if he backed OMR here in this thread, but I know he won't get involved. If Ron said, "yes the account was started by those guys, we all knew it from the start but we allowed it to go on for years for fun and games" then I would trust him. I remember Bob Chick even asked Nasser about it but why would he when he was a mod here and friend of Ron's and knew it was just Alex, Block and Special Ed (along with their davidpaul gimmick account) fucking around?

The only one who "admitted" to using the account was Alex, the rest deny it.
Everyone on this board knows Alex is a major bullshitter and master gimmicker bordering on the insane, so no one in their right mind would trust his word. OMR says he suspects Alex probably was posting from the account until Nasser's death and now he's back here instead stinking up the place. Really? Why in the fuck is Alex still welcomed on this board then, why is OMR friendly with Alex still?

Why am I harping on this? I'm just curious. I want to know how right or wrong I am. I've followed this saga from the start and everyone "knows" who did what but I have seen zero proof or even a very likely explanation. I'm really fucking curious.

I have no interest in buying/selling drugs on the net, unlike many on this thread. I think the majority in this scene are fucking retards as all this drama proves.

Today we approved the Valiant account. This new member is supposedly behind the demise of gh15's website.

When that member posts and opens up about what he/she knows, we should all be entertained.

Regarding the evidence as to those 4 guys being behind the account, you don't have to take my word for it.

What I will tell you is that I am a natural (never used a steroid in my life or any type of illegal drug for that matter). I have never benefited in any way from the gh15 nonsense. I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else about what I have seen and have been provided with in the past.

The information you seek is in the hands of others on this forum. If they decide to provide you with the information, that is up to them.

It is not my place to unearth the proof, as it was presented to me by someone else and that person alone deserves the accolades for their work and the benefit of presenting it themselves, if they so please.

Like I said, you don't have to believe anything I say regarding this matter, but realize that I have no reason to lie to you. The user gh15 and I got along quite fine throughout the years. GH15 had no qualms with me and I had no qualms with GH15.

The only reason I mention what I have seen regarding the 4 guys behind the account is ONLY because I saw the proof with my own eyes.

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[El Diablo Blanco]

Today we approved the Valiant account. This new member is supposedly behind the demise of gh15's website.

When that member posts and opens up about what he/she knows, we should all be entertained.

Regarding the evidence as to those 4 guys being behind the account, you don't have to take my word for it.

What I will tell you is that I am a natural (never used a steroid in my life or any type of illegal drug for that matter). I have never benefited in any way from the gh15 nonsense. I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else about what I have seen and have been provided with in the past.

The information you seek is in the hands of others on this forum. If they decide to provide you with the information, that is up to them.

It is not my place to unearth the proof, as it was presented to me by someone else and that person alone deserves the accolades for their work and the benefit of presenting it themselves, if they so please.

Like I said, you don't have to believe anything I say regarding this matter, but realize that I have no reason to lie to you. The user gh15 and I got along quite fine throughout the years. GH15 had no qualms with me and I had no qualms with GH15.

The only reason I mention what I have seen regarding the 4 guys behind the account is ONLY because I saw the proof with my own eyes.

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[OneMoreRep]

Now, we will see what Valiant has to say regarding this matter.

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