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« Reply #125 on: November 22, 2006, 01:52:56 PM »
Arnold's shoulders were way too small for his chest and arms.

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« Reply #126 on: November 22, 2006, 02:02:11 PM »
He was 29 when he made Pumping Iron in 1975. Do the math.

Not to throw you under the bus, but if you wanna talk about "doing the math", he was 28 when he did Pumping Iron, not 29. Mr. Olympia was on November 8, 1975 - his birthday is July of 1947. But if you wanna get REAL technical, Arnold actually started making Pumping Iron at age 26 when George Butler made a test film for investors on May 25, 1974 - the first frames every shot for Pumping Iron! But you know, who's counting that?  ;D

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« Reply #127 on: November 22, 2006, 02:23:30 PM »
Oliva's conditioning at his best was just fine. The only problem is the dearth of pics showing this, from younger years. At his peak he didn't have the better photographers Weider had around Schwarzenegger did, taking copious numbers of good shots. Think about it.

Most see a lot of older pics and make assumptions.


You are the king of calling people on making excuses. In your own words  "woulda, coulda, shoulda". Sergio was not as conditioned as Arnie and he lost. Simple.

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« Reply #128 on: November 22, 2006, 07:29:53 PM »
  Ok, this is how I see it. Oliva obviously had a superior structure than Arnold's, but Arnold's structure was slightly bigger. Adding up, Arnold prevailed over Oliva because he had a serious advantage in muscularity, and Oliva's strenghs over Arnold couldn't tip the scales in his favor, because Arnold was still pretty awesome at them, too. For instance, Oliva had a better taper in most front shots than Arnold, but Arnold's taper was still fucking awesome. Oliva's back was more separated than Arnold's and attached lower, but Arnold compensated for this by having greater width&thickess. Oliva's delts were more proportionally developed than Arnold's, but Schwarzenegger had big front delts, giving him and edge in the most muscular. Arnold had an advantage in size, and that tipped the scales in his favor. Regardless, I give major props to Arnold for having faced a bodybuider that seemed like he was genetically engineered for bodybuilding perfection, and managed to defeat him. The true testament to Arnold's greatness was not that he defeated lesser foes with ease, but that he managed to defeat the single bodybuilder in history possesed of genetics to defeat him. Now that is Arnold's claim to immortality. ;)

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Re: schwarzenegger
« Reply #129 on: November 22, 2006, 07:32:47 PM »
  Ok, this is how I see it. Oliva obviously had a superior structure than Arnold's, but Arnold's structure was slightly bigger. Adding up, Arnold prevailed over Oliva because he had a serious advantage in muscularity, and Oliva's strenghs over Dorian couldn't tip the scales in his favor, because Arnold was still pretty awesome at them, too. For instance, Oliva had a better taper in most front shots than Arnold, but Arnold's taper was still fucking awesome. Oliva's back was more separated than Arnold's and attached lower, but Arnold compensated for this by having greater width&thickess. Oliva's delts were more proportionally developed than Arnold's, but Schwarzenegger had big front delsts, giving him and edge in the most muscular. Arnold had an advantage in size, and that tipped the scales in his favor. Regardless, I give major props to Arnold for having faced a bodybuider that seemed like he was genetically enginnered for bodybuilding perfection, and managed to defeat him. The true testament to Arnold's greatness was not that he defeated lesser foes with ease, but that he managed to defeat the single bodybuilder in history possesed of genetics to defeat him. Now that is Arnold's claim to immortality. ;)

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Re: schwarzenegger
« Reply #130 on: November 22, 2006, 07:43:01 PM »
Arnold was 28! It was one of the first things said on Pumping Iron! Pay attention to what the guy that is interviewing Arnold says.
Oh excuse me...I was off by one year.....makes no difference. he's an old man now and people need to realize that. You're not gonna look like a 28 year old when your 59.

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« Reply #131 on: November 23, 2006, 04:47:06 AM »
Oh excuse me...I was off by one year.....makes no difference. he's an old man now and people need to realize that. You're not gonna look like a 28 year old when your 59.

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Exactly! I don't know why people expect him to STILL look as good as he did when he was in his 20's. Granted, he may not be as well shaped as say, maybe Stallone, but Sylvester Stallone doesn't have 7 Mr. Olympia titles, 5 Mr. Universe, and a Mr. World. So if Arnold wants to get "fat" or however he wants to look, then whatever. We STILL hail him to this day no matter what he looks like to this day - at least I do.  8)

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« Reply #132 on: November 23, 2006, 06:45:49 AM »
Exactly! I don't know why people expect him to STILL look as good as he did when he was in his 20's. Granted, he may not be as well shaped as say, maybe Stallone, but Sylvester Stallone doesn't have 7 Mr. Olympia titles, 5 Mr. Universe, and a Mr. World. So if Arnold wants to get "fat" or however he wants to look, then whatever. We STILL hail him to this day no matter what he looks like to this day - at least I do.  8)

exactly. the man is retired and is pursuing other things. i'm sure he could get into very good shape in a month if he wanted to.

punyster is a bitter and twisted old fart that constantly attempts to hijack threads with his negative rant. this dickhead is obsessed with the notion of racism in bodybuilding despite the fact that 3 of the greatest and most celebrated mr olympias were dark skinned. actually they were probably all relatively dark skinned with competition tan eg. jay cutler...annnnyway, congrats to everyone else who managed to keep THIS thread positive and on track despite punyster's best efforts. 8)

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« Reply #133 on: November 23, 2006, 06:51:25 AM »
exactly. the man is retired and is pursuing other things. i'm sure he could get into very good shape in a month if he wanted to.

punyster is a bitter and twisted old fart that constantly attempts to hijack threads with his negative rant. this dickhead is obsessed with the notion of racism in bodybuilding despite the fact that 3 of the greatest and most celebrated mr olympias were dark skinned. actually they were probably all relatively dark skinned with competition tan eg. jay cutler...annnnyway, congrats to everyone else who managed to keep THIS thread positive and on track despite punyster's best efforts. 8)

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« Reply #134 on: November 23, 2006, 02:11:17 PM »
Imagine Arnold with Ronnie's contest ready condition!

Imagine Arnold with Sergio's muscularity ;D

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« Reply #135 on: November 23, 2006, 02:16:00 PM »
Imagine Arnold with Sergio's muscularity ;D

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how about Flex Wheeler with Sergio's muscularity?!
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« Reply #136 on: November 23, 2006, 02:17:10 PM »
Arnold at his best was always better tha Sergio at his best,and I am not a great Arnold fan just giving him credit.

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« Reply #137 on: November 23, 2006, 02:26:25 PM »
lol

how about Flex Wheeler with Sergio's muscularity?!

Imagine that :o. Could the human body reach that level of perfection ?.

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Re: schwarzenegger
« Reply #138 on: November 23, 2006, 02:29:57 PM »
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exactly. the man is retired and is pursuing other things. i'm sure he could get into very good shape in a month if he wanted to.

punyster is a bitter and twisted old fart that constantly attempts to hijack threads with his negative rant. this dickhead is obsessed with the notion of racism in bodybuilding despite the fact that 3 of the greatest and most celebrated mr olympias were dark skinned. actually they were probably all relatively dark skinned with competition tan eg. jay cutler...annnnyway, congrats to everyone else who managed to keep THIS thread positive and on track despite punyster's best efforts.


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« Reply #139 on: November 23, 2006, 06:07:15 PM »
Could the human body reach that level of perfection ?.

Enter Arnold....  ;D

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« Reply #140 on: November 23, 2006, 06:12:43 PM »
Oliva's back was more separated than Arnold's and attached lower, but Arnold compensated for this by having greater width&thickess. Oliva's delts were more proportionally developed than Arnold's, but Schwarzenegger had big front delts, giving him and edge in the most muscular.

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Re: schwarzenegger
« Reply #141 on: November 23, 2006, 06:16:31 PM »
Arnold at his finest !

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« Reply #142 on: November 23, 2006, 06:34:08 PM »
Enter Arnold....  ;D

Oh please, here are pics of both men at their respective peaks. I hope this settles all debate on the matter ;D.





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« Reply #143 on: November 23, 2006, 08:55:07 PM »
Im too lazy to see if this pic has been posted on this thread already

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« Reply #144 on: November 23, 2006, 08:57:16 PM »
 8)

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« Reply #145 on: November 23, 2006, 09:01:48 PM »
Does anybody know if this shot is morphed? Reason I ask is, my gym has this very same picture of out Flex magazine and Arnold looks significantly smaller.


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« Reply #146 on: November 23, 2006, 10:49:34 PM »
 :)
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« Reply #147 on: November 24, 2006, 03:16:55 PM »
:)

Awesome! I've never seen that top one before, that is why he is the best!
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« Reply #148 on: November 24, 2006, 03:18:01 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: November 24, 2006, 03:22:28 PM »
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