90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police

[amc1980]

if some plain clothed people burst into your house ya wouldn't shoot? what kinda man r you? ya wouldn't protect your family?

..i would..

Afraid not, old chap.

I am white, middle class and English. We do not have armed strangers bursting through our front doors.

[tu_holmes]

I think you misunderstood the context in which I wrote my post. I was responding to jaguar who asked me if I found anything odd about the initial police report.

Ah... I stand corrected... Excuse my misunderstanding.

[24KT]

nope. The officers believed drugs were being sold at the house. When they entered the residence, they were met with gun fire. The police responded how any officer would - return fire. Why would this strike me as odd?

Not referring to the officers' response to the gun fire. I'm talking about the events leading up to it.

are you a minority by any chance?

Don't even pull the race card BS on me. I first heard about the story on my local news, ...which btw doesn't pull BS like that. I had no idea the granny in question happened to be Black until after people here posted stories off the net. The whole procedure sounded off to me. The fact that she was Black is irrelevant to the fact that she was a victim of police misconduct. Misconduct that launched a sequence of events which resulted in her death and the hospitalization of 3 officers.

Just stick your tail between your legs and admit you were wrong. Nip this in the bud and stop making a further fool of yourself by trying to justify and defend the indefensible.

[ToxicAvenger]

Afraid not, old chap.

I am white, middle class and English. We do not have armed strangers bursting through our front doors.

well mate, then your previous argument like your cric team.....ws infact moot! 

[NeoSeminole]

Not referring to the officers' response to the gun fire. I'm talking about the events leading up to it.

bullshit, and you know it. You're looking at this incident with hindsight bias. Re-read the initial news article. Here is an excerpt in case you are too lazy to find it.

"Narcotics officers were justified in returning fire on a 92-year-old woman they shot to death as they tried to serve a warrant at her house, a police official said.

Assistant Chief Alan Dreher said the officers had a legal warrant and 'knocked and announced' before they forced open the door. He said they were justified in shooting once they were fired upon."

This is what I based my response off of. Nowhere does it say the officers lied to get a warrant or they planted marijuana in her home to cover up their actions. So spare me your juvenile 'I-told-you-so' bullshit.

Don't even pull the race card BS on me. I first heard about the story on my local news, ...which btw doesn't pull BS like that. I had no idea the granny in question happened to be Black until after people here posted stories off the net. The whole procedure sounded off to me. The fact that she was Black is irrelevant to the fact that she was a victim of police misconduct. Misconduct that launched a sequence of events which resulted in her death and the hospitalization of 3 officers.

just answer the damn question. It sounds to me like you are trying to justify the woman shooting at police b/c you are a minority.

[24KT]

bullshit, and you know it. You're looking at this incident with hindsight bias. Re-read the initial news article. Here is an excerpt in case you are too lazy to find it.

"Narcotics officers were justified in returning fire on a 92-year-old woman they shot to death as they tried to serve a warrant at her house, a police official said.

Assistant Chief Alan Dreher said the officers had a legal warrant and 'knocked and announced' before they forced open the door. He said they were justified in shooting once they were fired upon."

This is what I based my response off of. Nowhere does it say the officers lied to get a warrant or they planted marijuana in her home to cover up their actions. So spare me your juvenile 'I-told-you-so' bullshit.

just answer the damn question. It sounds to me like you are trying to justify the woman shooting at police b/c you are a minority.

Go re-read this thread from the beginning ...then blush with embarassment, ...and come back and apologize. 

[NeoSeminole]

Go re-read this thread from the beginning ...then blush with embarassment, ...and come back and apologize.

actually, you're the one who needs to re-read this thread from the beginning. You obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about, but I'm sure in your mind you said something witty as evidenced by your wink. Pay close attention to post #10 and its date. I will accept your apology when you are ready.

[24KT]

actually, you're the one who needs to re-read this thread from the beginning. You obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about, but I'm sure in your mind you said something witty as evidenced by your wink. Pay close attention to post #10 and its date. I will accept your apology when you are ready.

Read post #37, ...then kiss my ass! 

[NeoSeminole]

Read post #37, ...then kiss my ass!

too bad you contradict what you said in your first post.

In a case of mistaken identity, a 90 yr old granny, home alone was shot to death by 3 police officers.

Three plain clothes police came to her home to serve a warrant. Granny got a gun to protect herself...
and the rest is history. The officers were wounded, but will recover. Granny is dead.

you insinuated the officers were at fault. If you truly wanted to be unbiased, then you should have said "a 90 yr old woman was shot to death in her home after she opened fire on police." You neglected to mention that last part. Hmm, I wonder why? You also have a history of sympathizing with anyone who goes against the police (e.g. UCLA incident). I know your kind too well. You may think you are fooling people with your subtle word choices but you aren't fooling me. I noticed when somebody points out that she shouldn't have fired upon the officers, you immediately jump to her defense. You even came up with an excuse why their bullet proof vests with the word "Police" written across the front and back wasn't enough due to her poor vision. However, you conveniently ignore the fact the old lady could see well enough to shoot 3 officers. Grow up. Stop using government officials as a scapegoat for your problems.

[NeoSeminole]

glad to know I'm not the only person who sees through Jaguar's bullshit.

You're so fvcking biased.

The old bag starts shooting at the police; the police shoot back and somehow it's the police's fault?

It'll teach her to get so trigger-happy.

Did I assign blame?

It appears you did

[Debussey]

 

[Mjohnson81]

sometimes i DO miss pakistan..if this had happened there..those officers woulda suffered terrible trajedies in the following weeks..

Wait you're from pakistan??  Then what are you doing here?? You must be gay and like to look and muscular men because we all know that people from pakistan don't have proper gentics to get into bodybuilding  :-)

and do us all a favor and please go back to pakistan...but can you make sure you hire someone to run your 7-11 when you go

[24KT]

too bad you contradict what you said in your first post.

you insinuated the officers were at fault. If you truly wanted to be unbiased, then you should have said "a 90 yr old woman was shot to death in her home after she opened fire on police." You neglected to mention that last part. Hmm, I wonder why? You also have a history of sympathizing with anyone who goes against the police (e.g. UCLA incident). I know your kind too well. You may think you are fooling people with your subtle word choices but you aren't fooling me. I noticed when somebody points out that she shouldn't have fired upon the officers, you immediately jump to her defense. You even came up with an excuse why their bullet proof vests with the word "Police" written across the front and back wasn't enough due to her poor vision. However, you conveniently ignore the fact the old lady could see well enough to shoot 3 officers. Grow up. Stop using government officials as a scapegoat for your problems.

I don't have a history of sympathizing with anyone who goes against the police.

Alot of people go against the police on a regular basis and get their asses handed to them, ...and rightfully so.

I will however sympathize with those who have been wronged by the police, as both those individuals were.

Maybe if you stopped idolizing those who are undeserving of your respect, you might see a little clearer.

...and what problems do I have that I would blame government officials for?

ps - The police are NOT government officials you cop groupie. 

[jtsunami]

That is her house, if anyone barges in she has the right to kill them.  WTF when did police become sacred figues, they are trash, break the law more than most people and are immoral most of them.  Why do any of you feel for the police?  The older women was in the right and it is just a horrible situation, death by firing squad for the 3 dumbasses who broke in.