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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2006, 08:06:31 AM »
I'm not buying it. The dude has scrawny arms and doesn't resemble a powerbencher at all. Plus, with the uneven pressing at that weight would have put way too much stress on the one side that fell behind. The weights are clealy not the 45s we see here in the states and looked more like rubber coated smaller weights. Let's say they were 30 lbs. 180 on each side would cause a bar to bend if the weight was distributed all the way to the edge of the bar as seen here.

I call fake lift, fake weights, or fake claim (amount).

And as we all know passing IOC level drug tests doesn't mean jack squat, at least according to Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, Kelli White, Tim Montgomery, and shotputters CJ Hunter and Randy Barnes -- all BUSTED after years of passing tests.

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2006, 08:17:25 AM »
few things to remember, strength training doesn't mean training for size, no doubt they do experience hypertophy but not to the extent of a bber, most of the training we do it for the cns.  And his arms are actually massive. 

If I knew how to post pics, you would see how massive he really is. 

The lift is actually legit, it has been long known that he is the only man in track and field today who can push 600+ on the bench, I just shared it with you becuase it seems all you guys on here really like the bench press.  And yea each plate is 20k.  I believe it was 620 and he added 2lbs for each clip on the side.  he is a world class athlete, who has better things to do then have fake lifts on the internet.  It was the end of the season, and he just probably decided what the hell and decided to max out, you don't do this type of stuff inseason.     

Ed, the testing is alot better these days, Barnes got caught twice thus what gave him his lifetime ban. 

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2006, 08:26:46 AM »
few things to remember, strength training doesn't mean training for size, no doubt they do experience hypertophy but not to the extent of a bber, most of the training we do it for the cns.  And his arms are actually massive. 

If I knew how to post pics, you would see how massive he really is. 

The lift is actually legit, it has been long known that he is the only man in track and field today who can push 600+ on the bench, I just shared it with you becuase it seems all you guys on here really like the bench press.  And yea each plate is 20k.  I believe it was 620 and he added 2lbs for each clip on the side.  he is a world class athlete, who has better things to do then have fake lifts on the internet.  It was the end of the season, and he just probably decided what the hell and decided to max out, you don't do this type of stuff inseason.     

Ed, the testing is alot better these days, Barnes got caught twice thus what gave him his lifetime ban. 
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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2006, 08:27:25 AM »

And as we all know passing IOC level drug tests doesn't mean jack squat, at least according to Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, Kelli White, Tim Montgomery, and shotputters CJ Hunter and Randy Barnes -- all BUSTED after years of passing tests.

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Well, I would reserve judgement on saying Lance and Floyd are "BUSTED".  Recently, cyclist Genevieve Jeanson of Canada was exonerated from using EPO after testimony by a Belgium researcher, Dr. Joris Delanghe:

 http://velonews.com/news/fea/11252.0.html

I would not stake my life on the results from an EPO test, that's for sure. I spent several years as an analytical chemist in a testing lab. I could make PCB's in waste water appear and disappear "at will" . Its very easy to make mistakes  when measuring low levels of anything, be it EPO, PCB's, DDT, etc.

Unfortunately in this day and age, there are users of performance enhancing drugs and there are innocents accused of using them. The difficulty in getting true test results, either because of  test weaknesses, incompetence, or manipulation of results by labs (yes, it does happen - I have seen it firsthand) leads to a further clouding of who is and isn't using.

We have entered into the era of total doubt. Any peak athletic performance will always be portrayed as due to cheating, I'm afraid.


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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2006, 09:41:59 AM »
I hope this works, he is not skinny.

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2006, 09:47:10 AM »
I don't know how to make it so it pops up, but I have to go to class, cya

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2006, 09:49:55 AM »
I hope this works, he is not skinny.
No hes not skinny he`s fucking huge,at 6,6 he must be well over 300lbs there

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2006, 10:05:04 AM »
I'm not buying it. The dude has scrawny arms and doesn't resemble a powerbencher at all. Plus, with the uneven pressing at that weight would have put way too much stress on the one side that fell behind. The weights are clealy not the 45s we see here in the states and looked more like rubber coated smaller weights. Let's say they were 30 lbs. 180 on each side would cause a bar to bend if the weight was distributed all the way to the edge of the bar as seen here.

I call fake lift, fake weights, or fake claim (amount).

And as we all know passing IOC level drug tests doesn't mean jack squat, at least according to Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, Kelli White, Tim Montgomery, and shotputters CJ Hunter and Randy Barnes -- all BUSTED after years of passing tests.

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Special "you are usually close to right" Ed, you may be off here.  Lighter weight would NOT bend the bar like that and bounce like that. 

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2006, 10:29:19 AM »
Special "you are usually close to right" Ed, you may be off here.  Lighter weight would NOT bend the bar like that and bounce like that. 

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How much lighter weights would it take to bend a bar like that. I can't see anything fake in this video clip. yes, these 45lbs maybe plastic coated, thus making them look bloated, but it's still a 45lbs plate
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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2006, 10:43:49 AM »
I'm not buying it. The dude has scrawny arms and doesn't resemble a powerbencher at all. Plus, with the uneven pressing at that weight would have put way too much stress on the one side that fell behind. The weights are clealy not the 45s we see here in the states and looked more like rubber coated smaller weights. Let's say they were 30 lbs. 180 on each side would cause a bar to bend if the weight was distributed all the way to the edge of the bar as seen here.

I call fake lift, fake weights, or fake claim (amount).

And as we all know passing IOC level drug tests doesn't mean jack squat, at least according to Floyd Landis, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, Kelli White, Tim Montgomery, and shotputters CJ Hunter and Randy Barnes -- all BUSTED after years of passing tests.

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This guy would have to weigh about 400 to have "big" arms at over 6'6. His arms are prob about 22 inches.


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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2006, 10:48:14 AM »
Very impressive...and without specific training.  Have you ever seen tank Abbot with his easy 600 bench?  Sure he bounces it and arches, but for a guy into fighting and also not specifically training for bench press it's impressive.  He also throws 315 around for upright rows easily, not good but easy.

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2006, 11:36:51 AM »
It is real. He has done 645 before for a single, it looks like he could have done a double with that weight.  He obviously trains his bench really hardcore(his technique for throwing depends on it) but he isn't a specialist and he has a huge rom no arch.   

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2006, 11:46:13 AM »
wow warrior_code, thanks for posting. incredible strength!

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2006, 12:07:13 PM »
Very good raw lift, he bounced a lil on the chest but he didnīt ge much advantage of it,
an the rom with his long arms is pretty long too.
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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2006, 12:28:34 PM »
I could be wrong. It happened once before. But 455 does bend some bars and that's with the weights tight in close to the middle of the bar. Obviously the laws of physics dictate that the further out to the edge of the bar the weights are, the greater bend we will see in the bar near the fulcrum point.

I don't think a bending bar is enough to say it's 622 lbs. The weights still look funny to me. Ivanko plates don't look like that either.

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Re: C.cantwell 622 raw bench, shotputter
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2006, 01:21:27 PM »
You can all look for some throwing videos of him and see for yourself that he has to have a lot more then just a good (super) bench press to throw far:
http://www.macthrowvideo.com/annual_2006.htm

That makes him even more impressive in my opinion.

Here is also a link to a page with previously mentioned Randy Barnes and his bench press max video:
http://www.macthrowvideo.com/annual_1990s.htm