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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2006, 12:26:25 PM »
All of that's just a function of the amount of weight used, and diet. Yates' problems were based on the use of too much weight and a stringent diet.

Yates' real problem was the sultan of symmetry aka flex wheeler! ::)
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2006, 12:26:30 PM »
intensity techniques are not safe. ask yates. overtraining isnt a good thing. frying your CNS isn't a good thing, would f**k with your immune system and make you sick more often.

why would anyone use worthless intensity techniques, going to failure or beyond when there's no need and when it would only increase changes of injury and slow down or hinder gains?


Because I'm currently being rewarded with the best gains of my life. Not only that, but it's a constant challenge to beat my previous workout, to walk into the gym every time and say I'm going to have the most intense workout to ever take place in this gym and MEAN IT!!!

"Dig deep and find the drive to train harder than you ever have before... exceed yourself!"
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2006, 12:27:03 PM »
mike mentzer didnt have a clue
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2006, 12:27:17 PM »
Nonesense!! Why would you use smith machines???????? I made the best gains of my life using DC and will go back to it now.
it's just safer and more practical with the rest pause to use the Smith, i don't do that any more mind you, i do at least one barbell movement for every bodypart now.

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2006, 12:28:20 PM »
mike mentzer didnt have a clue

That's just plain nonsense.
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2006, 12:30:23 PM »
Because I'm currently being rewarded with the best gains of my life. Not only that, but it's a constant challenge to beat my previous workout, to walk into the gym every time and say I'm going to have the most intense workout to ever take place in this gym and MEAN IT!!!

"Dig deep and find the drive to train harder than you ever have before... exceed yourself!"
-Mike Mentzer

yeah mike was a lot into macho bullshit. but you can run 10 miles and that would be even harder. still that doesnt build muscle.
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2006, 12:31:40 PM »
Last week I did one rep on the bench with 135. I took 100 seconds to lower the weight and 50 to push it back up. The most intense workout I ever had.

I'm sure this type of workout will transfer well to my other athletic endeavors.

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2006, 12:32:48 PM »
Last week I did one rep on the bench with 135. I took 100 seconds to lower the weight and 50 to push it back up. The most intense workout I ever had.

I'm sure this type of workout will transfer well to my other athletic endeavors.

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2006, 12:34:33 PM »
That's just plain nonsense.

what good did he ever teach. hardly noone follows his theories.
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2006, 12:35:54 PM »
yeah mike was a lot into macho bullshit. but you can run 10 miles and that would be even harder. still that doesnt build muscle.


It's also hard to read Shakespear and that certainly wouldn't build muscle. Only by means of weight lifting can the growth process be activated in muscles.
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2006, 12:38:13 PM »
what good did he ever teach. hardly noone follows his theories.


It's true. That's the sad part. If no one has the balls to train with HIT, Mike at least created a legitimate science of bodybuilding. And I think that's more important than whether or not people train using his programs.
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2006, 12:42:03 PM »
It's true. That's the sad part. If no one has the balls to train with HIT, Mike at least created a legitimate science of bodybuilding. And I think that's more important than whether or not people train using his programs.

i dont believe in his science. and the macho attitude doesnt make physiques, it breaks physiques.
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2006, 12:44:32 PM »
i dont believe in his science. and the macho attitude doesnt make physiques, it breaks physiques.
There's nothing particular "macho" about it. I think Bluto is intimidated by it.

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2006, 01:00:46 PM »
There's nothing particular "macho" about it. I think Bluto is intimidated by it.

Since I started openly discussing HIT I noticed that those who know for themselves that they're not capable of going through the kind of intensity that HIT demands will, instead of admitting it, will deny the effectiveness (even the science of it in this case) of HIT without even having experienced it for themselves.

The only other Getbiggers I know who are using or have used HIT are nodeal (my training partner), davie and Your MAaaaaaaaaa. And they will not deny it's effectiveness and difficulty.
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2006, 01:13:44 PM »
There's nothing particular "macho" about it. I think Bluto is intimidated by it.

of course it's macho. every other thread is about not being able to train as hard, train through the pain etc. etc.

the same macho bullshit that sells animal supplements.

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #65 on: December 09, 2006, 01:17:30 PM »
If you're seriously asking that you should not be on a BB board.

You shouldn't be on a bodybuilding board you're not a bodybuilder you're a Boxflex-builder lol

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #66 on: December 09, 2006, 01:20:25 PM »
pumpsters homegym is second to none!
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #67 on: December 09, 2006, 01:24:02 PM »
pumpsters homegym is second to none!
 ;D

According to him the Box Flex is underrated lol

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #68 on: December 09, 2006, 01:27:31 PM »
well it's a step up for pumpster, he used to work his whole body with one of these:

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #69 on: December 09, 2006, 01:29:15 PM »
You shouldn't be on a bodybuilding board you're not a bodybuilder you're a Boxflex-builder lol

You have got to be shitting me! LOL!!
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #70 on: December 09, 2006, 01:32:10 PM »
Oh it gets better pumpster can ' bench ' 410 pounds for 15 full consecutive reps on the Bow Flex as well lol

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2006, 01:35:37 PM »
Oh it gets better pumpster can ' bench ' 410 pounds for 15 full consecutive reps on the Bow Flex as well lol

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2006, 01:40:03 PM »
Oh it gets better pumpster can ' bench ' 410 pounds for 15 full consecutive reps on the Bow Flex as well lol

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #73 on: December 09, 2006, 01:41:51 PM »
Yes he was actually bragging about being able to bench 410 pounds for 15 reps lol I told him he couldn't do ONE rep on a barbell !!

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Re: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER OR MIKE MENTZER? REGARDING TRAINING!
« Reply #74 on: December 09, 2006, 01:45:56 PM »
Yes he was actually bragging about being able to bench 410 pounds for 15 reps lol I told him he couldn't do ONE rep on a barbell !!

lol that must equate to 150 x 15 reps on the barbell!
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