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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2007, 01:18:34 PM »
check this site out...

http://www.naturalphysiques.com/cms/index.php?itemid=144

shows various bf levels with pics..down to 6.5%. The 6.5% guy looks fat compared with the pros.

another site i found showed that essential fat % was as low as 2% but claimed that 0.5% was possible.

athletes ranged from 6-12%.


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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2007, 02:33:22 PM »
   It's a well known FACT that Flex Wheelers body fat was measured at an astounding 0.0% at Gold's Gym (the lowest ever recorded)the week prior to the 93 OLYMPIA,as witnessed by Jim Quinn.

Intersting since fat is needed to help lubricate the joints.  So exactly how did Flex move, did he squeak.  Please don't use the word "fact" when in FACT it is not a fact.  Thanks

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2007, 02:56:15 PM »
Intersting since fat is needed to help lubricate the joints.  So exactly how did Flex move, did he squeak.  Please don't use the word "fact" when in FACT it is not a fact.  Thanks

you have to have a certian amount of fat to be able to function.At 0% you would not be able to do sit down much less walk around and go to the gym. I dont understand why you cannot understand this. At 0% BF you would be in the hospital not getting on a BB stage

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2007, 02:56:49 PM »
WRONG!! Flex Wheeler was measured at 0.0% bodyfat during his prep for the 93 Olympia.It was the lowest reading ever recorded at Gold's Gym.

actually, you are wrong. Flex was measured with a caliper which estimates total body fat by measuring subcutaneous fat (keyword: estimates). He may have read 0% bodyfat. However, it's physiologically impossible to be that low and still be alive. The body requires fat to cushion vital organs and function properly. I guarantee you that if they used hydrostatic weighing, Flex wouldn't be 0% body fat.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2007, 02:59:09 PM »
what the f**k do you know?

It is well known that Flex Wheeler's body fat percentage was measured at a monster 0.0% prior to stepping on stage for the 93 Mr Olympia  ::)


Lowest bodyfat ever recorded ar Golds!

Jim Quinn saw it, I believe it, dammit!  >:(
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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2007, 02:59:44 PM »
actually, you are wrong. Flex was measured with a caliper which estimates total body fat by measuring subcutaneous fat (keyword: estimates). He may have read 0% bodyfat. However, it's physiologically impossible to be that low and still be alive. The body requires fat to cushion vital organs and function properly. I guarantee you that if they used hydrostatic weighing, Flex wouldn't be 0% body fat.


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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2007, 03:03:58 PM »
ARE YOU CALLING JIM QUINN A LIAR???

did you bother to read what I said, or did you just skip over parts of my post? I said that it's possible to measure 0% body fat using a caliper b/c it only measures subcutaneous fat. It uses this measurement to estimate total body fat, hence there is a degree of error (something like 3-5%). It's impossible to be 0% body fat and still be alive.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2007, 03:28:55 PM »
did you bother to read what I said, or did you just skip over parts of my post? I said that it's possible to measure 0% body fat using a caliper b/c it only measures subcutaneous fat. It uses this measurement to estimate total body fat, hence there is a degree of error (something like 3-5%). It's impossible to be 0% body fat and still be alive.
you dont know what you're talking about. I dont understand how one can look past a physical measurement (fact), especially when it's been measured by a highly qualified individual like Jim Quinn. If it was measured at 0.0% bodyfat, there sure as hell wasn[t any fat on the man's body. whats so hard about this?  :-\
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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2007, 03:42:14 PM »
I seriously hope the people who are saying they believe that bullshit in here are saying it just to get a rise out of people and laugh.  Surely no one on a bodybuilding web site is that ridiculously ignorant.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2007, 03:56:03 PM »

Shadow, your stupidity on these boards is legendary.  Zero percent bodyfat equals death.  You need triglycerides for energy, storage and organ protection.  Also, lipids have a utility in membrane compliance otherwise your cells would die.  Thus, zero percent is impossible.  One percent is also ridiculous.  I would surmise that any lower than 3 percent and your organ systems would be severely pressured.  At 260 pounds, that would only amout to 8 pounds of fat, which is ridiculous.  I believe the reason that Dorian looks drier than everyone else is that he had the innate ability to deplete his body of all subcutaneous water.  Although I shudder to think what his serum osmolality was secondary to likely hypernatremia (high serum sodium0; he played the knocking at deaths door and escaping act better than anyone.  The only two comparable in conditioning were Benaziza and Munzer, and they are currently zero bodyfat percentage as they are dead.

Dorian's heart had superhuman ability to produce atrial natriatic peptide ;)

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2007, 04:27:09 PM »
you dont know what you're talking about. I dont understand how one can look past a physical measurement (fact), especially when it's been measured by a highly qualified individual like Jim Quinn. If it was measured at 0.0% bodyfat, there sure as hell wasn't any fat on the man's body. whats so hard about this? 

b/c it's possible to measure 0% subcutaneous fat, yet still have fat in your body. Flex was measured with a caliper which only takes measurements of the skin. It cannot measure the fat in cell membranes and protecting vital organs. I don't know why this concept is difficult for you to understand. :-\

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2007, 05:08:19 PM »
 
actually, you are wrong. Flex was measured with a caliper which estimates total body fat by measuring subcutaneous fat (keyword: estimates). He may have read 0% bodyfat. However, it's physiologically impossible to be that low and still be alive. The body requires fat to cushion vital organs and function properly. I guarantee you that if they used hydrostatic weighing, Flex wouldn't be 0% body fat.



 Some guys are so smart that they can't see the Forest for the trees.  hahahahahahahaha

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          I really am disappointed in some of you guys for not catching on...especially ONLYME. This joke has been beaten to death.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2007, 05:21:42 PM »
b/c it's possible to measure 0% subcutaneous fat, yet still have fat in your body. Flex was measured with a caliper which only takes measurements of the skin. It cannot measure the fat in cell membranes and protecting vital organs. I don't know why this concept is difficult for you to understand. :-\

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2007, 05:23:07 PM »
FYI, O% bf is death. He's low, very low, but not zero. 
agreed no one has reached 0% alive.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2007, 05:25:28 PM »

ARE YOU CALLING JIM QUINN A LIAR???   >:( >:(

    hahahahaha

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2007, 05:27:53 PM »
agreed no one has reached 0% alive.

    except Flex Wheeler....in 1993

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2007, 05:28:35 PM »
Following in the footsteps of TA, I will get my bodyfat to -3% this year by eating nothing more than water and tofu while adding 15 pounds of muscle!!!!! I will scientifically prove everything!!!!!!!!

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2007, 05:43:20 PM »
Some guys are so smart that they can't see the Forest for the trees.  hahahahahahahaha

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=63470.0 
                 
I really am disappointed in some of you guys for not catching on...especially ONLYME. This joke has been beaten to death.

alright, my bad for not reading every single thread at getbig. I honestly didn't know there was an ongoing joke about this. I assumed these guys were serious b/c there really are people that stupid who post here.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #68 on: January 01, 2007, 05:51:52 PM »
alright, my bad for not reading every single thread at getbig. I honestly didn't know there was an ongoing joke about this. I assumed these guys were serious b/c there really are people that stupid who post here.

  hahaha  ;)  I have read posts of yours in the past and you clearly are intelligent...that's why I posted the link. I didn't intend to start a debate when I brought up Flex Wheeler...just making a joke and was called on it so I went with it. :)

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #69 on: January 01, 2007, 06:05:12 PM »
 


 Some guys are so smart that they can't see the Forest for the trees.  hahahahahahahaha

                  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=63470.0
                 
          I really am disappointed in some of you guys for not catching on...especially ONLYME. This joke has been beaten to death.


Got me, that's for sure.  :)  Didn't see that previous thread.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #70 on: January 01, 2007, 06:12:05 PM »
Got me, that's for sure.  :)  Didn't see that previous thread.

Oh there have been more than one.Just about every time body fat % is mentioned someone brings up the Flex Wheeler 0.0% thing...that's why I did it just to beat the dead horse....wasn't trying to start a debate.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #71 on: January 01, 2007, 06:31:33 PM »
This is insane. When I did my certificate in fitness 3 years ago, one of the group activities was to measure our bodyfat. Being mostly vegan and carrying bugger all bodyfat to the naked eye, I measured at 7%. I mentioned to my lecturer that Ronnie said on Jay Leno that he got as low as .33 %. He kindly said that he was full of sh*t and even at 1-2% you would be lucky not to be in hospital with possible organ failure. I would say most pros are around the 4% mark.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #72 on: January 01, 2007, 06:35:26 PM »
damn dorian was in unreal condition.his conditioning was beyond freaky.i think he looked like he had 0% bodyfat.just look at his face when he is getting interviewed before his posing routine.. :o
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  No, he was at around 3% bodyfat. However, he was dehydrated to the point of almost vigor mortis. 1996 was the year Dorian set a standard for dryness that is simply impossible for Human Beings...other than Dorian Yates. I have watched all of Dorian's posing and pre-judging at all these Olympias and here are my conclusions: in 1996, but so dry, that his muscles were shrinked like plumes. It was his best year ever in terms of conditioning, but it was far from his best form. In 1994 and 1997, he was incredibly full and dense, but he was obviously holding a little bit of water. Dorian's best was achieved at the 1995 Olympia, when he was full, dense and dry. The same could be said about 1993. Dorian's only managed to achieve his trademarked dryness without losing fullnes on those two occasions. In 1992, he was very full, but lacked the density and dryness that he achieved in the followin year and 1995. He was also relatively small.

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #73 on: January 01, 2007, 07:55:50 PM »
Dorian's heart had superhuman ability to produce atrial natriatic peptide ;)

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Re: was DORIAN YATES 0% body-fat at MR OLYMPIA 1996
« Reply #74 on: January 01, 2007, 07:59:58 PM »
Yes. He was at 0%.
Ronnie looked like doodoo