Author Topic: Ronnie, Jay, Dorian at their peaks (Read 13599 times)

Dredlock Rasta · « **Reply #26 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:23:42 PM »

Ronnie spanks both of them. Hate it or love it.

First of all, his symmetry is much better than eithier of the two. Ronnie has a small hips, big arms, wide back and shoulders while Cutler has wide hips, wide shoulders and arms that don't match up. Dorian is not in the ball park on this one.

Second, Ronnie wins when it comes to size hands down.

Third, I would say Dorian and Ronnie at there best are tied in conditioning while Cutler is slightly behind.

Hulkster · « **Reply #27 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:25:14 PM »

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Ronnie spanks both of them. Hate it or love it.

First of all, his symmetry is much better than eithier of the two. Ronnie has a small hips, big arms, wide back and shoulders while Cutler has wide hips, wide shoulders and arms that don't match up. Dorian is not in the ball park on this one.

Great Post!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #28 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:32:38 PM »

Quote from: Dredlock Rasta on January 10, 2007, 06:23:42 PM

Ronnie spanks both of them. Hate it or love it.

First of all, his symmetry is much better than eithier of the two. Ronnie has a small hips, big arms, wide back and shoulders while Cutler has wide hips, wide shoulders and arms that don't match up. Dorian is not in the ball park on this one.

Second, Ronnie wins when it comes to size hands down.

Third, I would say Dorian and Ronnie at there best are tied in conditioning while Cutler is slightly behind.

Sure he does .......sure he does

do you even know what symmetry is? and what it means in bodybuilding? its balance & proportion and Ronnie isn't better balanced than Yates and never was

second of all Ronnie is lucky if he ' tied ' Dorian for conditioning when he was 244 pounds but his conditioning at Dorian's weight leaves a lot to be desired

do you even know the rules in which bodybuilding contests are judged? obviously not based on your opinion , based on the IFBB judging criteria Ronnie couldn't beat Dorian and neither could Jay.

Hulkster · « **Reply #29 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:37:53 PM »

LOL ND is melting down because a newcomer can apply the criteria better than he can

ND you should take some bodybuilding classes from dredlock rasta.

they might help

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #30 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:39:00 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on January 10, 2007, 06:37:53 PM

LOL ND is melting down because a newcomer can apply the criteria better than he can

ND you should take some bodybuilding classes from dredlock rasta.

they might help

he doesn't even know it , he's like you , you apply some of the criteria and ignore a host of others in favor of Yates and claim an empty victory , its nothing lol

IceCold · « **Reply #31 on:** January 10, 2007, 07:38:08 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on January 10, 2007, 06:37:53 PM

LOL ND is melting down because a newcomer can apply the criteria better than he can

ND you should take some bodybuilding classes from dredlock rasta.

they might help

so hulkster is going to accept the opinon of some newb, but ignore paul dillet, shawn ray, flex wheeler, nasser el sonbaty, numerous judges, people who make a living writing about and reviewing contests, etc.

LOSER

Sergio Rules 77 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:17:10 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on January 10, 2007, 06:39:00 PM

he doesn't even know it , he's like you , you apply some of the criteria and ignore a host of others in favor of Yates and claim an empty victory , its nothing lol

Also, If things ever get tight, you've always got the comeback "How many times did Ronnie defeat Dorian for the Mr Olympia ?". I think the scoreboard reads 4-0 Dorian.

SERGIO!!!!

VIENIO · « **Reply #33 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:40:32 PM »

Seriously, what are you guys looking at?

All three have shit physiques,

Excluding his arms, ronnies upper body is a disaster from the front, its just bulky muscle all over the place
Dorian has no arms and just like ronnie, front upper body is not the nicest
Jay, pretty much all shit

All guys have good poses here and there but thats not what it should be about, it shouldn't be about body parts or whos got the most muscle, the whole physique with symmetry, conditioning, size, proportion, etc should be looked at. There should be a balance. Look at Melvin Anthony, Levrone, Ray and especially Flex wheeler, minor flaws here and there but those guys physiques have IMO close to perfect physiques and kill these three piles of shit.

pobrecito · « **Reply #34 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:56:16 PM »

Quote from: VIENIO on January 10, 2007, 08:40:32 PM

Seriously, what are you guys looking at?

All three have shit physiques,

Excluding his arms, ronnies upper body is a disaster from the front, its just bulky muscle all over the place
Dorian has no arms and just like ronnie, front upper body is not the nicest
Jay, pretty much all shit

All guys have good poses here and there but thats not what it should be about, it shouldn't be about body parts or whos got the most muscle, the whole physique with symmetry, conditioning, size, proportion, etc should be looked at. There should be a balance. Look at Melvin Anthony, Levrone, Ray and especially Flex wheeler, minor flaws here and there but those guys physiques have IMO close to perfect physiques and kill these three piles of shit.

Yates dominated all your boys

VIENIO · « **Reply #35 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:27:55 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on January 10, 2007, 08:56:16 PM

Yates dominated all your boys

According to who?
The same guys that keep giving the olympia to the biggest guy on stage right, nice. The same judges have been there forever and seem to give the guy with the most mass(mainly the back) the olympia, and once he gets it he can never be beaten even though its clear that guys have beaten him. Yeah Ronnie got beat, wasnt it clear why when Jay gave his speech? I wouldnt give it to either of them. Thats why DOrian "donminated" them. Funny how you say dominated, when thier scores are based on judges with preferences. Its not like an armwrestling match where you can dominate somebody, its a bunch of guys looking at somebody giving their personal opinion (following the judging criteria is not important).

delta9mda · « **Reply #36 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:35:54 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAvenger! on January 10, 2007, 01:25:04 PM

thats after his bi tear...Dorian won his first few with a full body

ronnie was never born with calves... $:-\$

he didnt tear the right arm.

getfast81 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 10, 2007, 09:50:00 PM »

Ronnie has a great back, Cutlers' back is coming into its own. Dorians' inner back is unbeatable. PERIOD.

NeoSeminole · « **Reply #38 on:** January 10, 2007, 11:31:24 PM »

rccs · « **Reply #39 on:** January 11, 2007, 02:58:27 AM »

For what I see Dorian is in the lead...

Dredlock Rasta · « **Reply #40 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:15:54 AM »

bodybuilding judging is subjective not objective.

Narc D, bodybuilding expert, how are you gonna say a man with a cow belly, wide hips, small arms (torn biceps), and little quad sweep has better symmetry than a man with small hips, a tight waist, huge arms with beautiful biceps peaks, wide shoulders, and crazy quad sweep? Come on mon. There is no way on earth. Ronnie just has Dorian outgunned in the genetics department. He is much more aesthetic than Dorian.

The Arnold vs. Sergio topic is much more debatable than Ronnie vs. Dorian.

The_Hammer · « **Reply #41 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:20:07 AM »

Nice pics NarcissisticDeity.

That was Dorian at his best. No one touches Dorian's conditioning and back. It's a tie between Dorian and Ronnie

Necrosis · « **Reply #42 on:** January 11, 2007, 06:35:50 AM »

its not a tie, what is everyone looking at. dorians quads have no seperation, and his arms blow. he had a wider waist then ronnie and less taper. hi delts are not a striated nor detailed as ronnies. Even on back i beleive ronnie wins, but it could honestly go either way on the two main poses.Hams and glutes ronnie clearly wins, its not even up for debate. so dorians dryness, makes up for lack of detail, seperation and proportion,taper and asthetics? ronnie also has rounder muscle bellies and in all a much more pleasing physique at his prime.

who is better ronnie or dorian, discuss.