Author Topic: Check out which supplements dont live up to label claims!!! (Read 2716 times)

sean · « **on:** January 21, 2007, 07:23:42 PM »

Take a gander at this... shame shame BSN

http://supplementpolice.com/index2.htm

WhiteHulk4 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2007, 07:29:43 AM »

Quote from: sean on January 21, 2007, 07:23:42 PM

Take a gander at this... shame shame BSN

http://supplementpolice.com/index2.htm

Have you paid the membership fee? I'd kind of like to see an example of the information they give, before paying for it. What all do they give you?

DK II · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2007, 09:10:06 AM »

I you've paid the fee, copy and paste the whole site into a thread please.

Aeternitatis · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2007, 02:28:34 PM »

^^^ yeah, or you can download the entire site for offline browsing. I can recommend some programs for that if interested.

I don't know how many of you actually have experience working in the supplement industry, but when you do you learn some startling things. There's a lot of shady practices going on, sometimes it's downright scary. But I guess the same can be said for any industry. You know, there's always those who are trying to scam, mislead, or get something for nothing.

But honestly I'm surprised that a company as big as BSN would have a label claims problem.

EDIT: you know, upon further looking at the site, I'm not sure it's totally trustworthy. First of all, they're selling not only a membership, but also supplements and testing services. That's bound to cause a bias of some kind.

Montague · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2007, 06:27:17 PM »

Quote from: Aeternitatis on January 22, 2007, 02:28:34 PM

EDIT: you know, upon further looking at the site, I'm not sure it's totally trustworthy. First of all, they're selling not only a membership, but also supplements and testing services. That's bound to cause a bias of some kind.

You're right.
NOTHING is ever completely unbiased.

sean · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2007, 08:03:51 PM »

The tests dont lie. How do you explain the products that tested out ok? Not just that, but brands that had products fall in the felonous and certified areas? The lab in this instance is independent.
Its not hard for me to believe that a company that goes through thousands of pounds of raw materials per week would skip the tedious step of testing.

Aeternitatis · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2007, 08:43:51 PM »

Yeah, except for the fact that there is this one never-heard-of company that appears to have a perfect record. Hmm... perhaps that particular brand is owned by those who run the site??? I don't know, but it is suspicious.

sean · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2007, 09:18:15 PM »

Well. Check it out for yourself.
http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=201
http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=202

Whats suspicious about it?

canadian_husker · « **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2007, 10:19:18 PM »

if they were really interested in spreading the word about bogus companies they wouldn't be charging a monthly fee. the whole site smells funny to me

DK II · « **Reply #9 on:** January 22, 2007, 11:36:26 PM »

Quote from: canadian_husker on January 22, 2007, 10:19:18 PM

if they were really interested in spreading the word about bogus companies they wouldn't be charging a monthly fee. the whole site smells funny to me

yup.

And, btw. If you're not a complete idiot, you know that nearly all supplements don't live up to label claims, except MV maybe.

All that ~tech shit, ~drol, ~bol or whatever is BS.

Bluto · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:44:45 AM »

depends on how big the difference is. if label claims 90% and it's 88% who cares.

DK II · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:59:38 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on January 23, 2007, 04:44:45 AM

depends on how big the difference is. if label claims 90% and it's 88% who cares.

Where are you from, Bluto?

Europe? You see to post in european daytime mostly!

Montague · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2007, 07:50:07 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on January 22, 2007, 11:36:26 PM

yup.

And, btw. If you're not a complete idiot, you know that nearly all supplements don't live up to label claims, except MV maybe.

All that ~tech shit, ~drol, ~bol or whatever is BS.

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Bluto · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2007, 08:02:03 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on January 23, 2007, 04:59:38 AM

Where are you from, Bluto?

Europe? You see to post in european daytime mostly!

yup, europe, posting from work

DK II · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2007, 01:13:08 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on January 23, 2007, 08:02:03 AM

yup, europe, posting from work

Can you be any more detailed, or is this classified information?

250Ben250 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2007, 11:18:40 AM »

Quote from: Aeternitatis on January 22, 2007, 08:43:51 PM

Yeah, except for the fact that there is this one never-heard-of company that appears to have a perfect record. Hmm... perhaps that particular brand is owned by those who run the site??? I don't know, but it is suspicious.

I agree, you never know who's running these sites. Plus it looks like they went after Sci-fit, another value supplement type of company. That'd be a good first target if I was trying to differentiate myself with the best value supps on the market...

sean · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2007, 12:51:46 PM »

Yeah. Sci-Fit is all over that site. 8 failed products and 2 certified ok. I joined up and looked at the lab data on those items... Very dissapointing.
It doesnt matter if they're a "value" company... They shouldnt be selling people things to put into their bodies that isnt what it says it is.
For instance, the lab data on a few products showed ND (non-detectable)... So whats in it then??? WTF? So you're telling me they're selling products that cost as high as 60 bucks and they're just selling me sugar powder or something?? There are laws that are in place to prevent this type of thing you know?
But, look at the others on there that didnt pass. BSN Cell Mass?? Cell Tech...

DK II · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2007, 12:52:58 PM »

Quote from: sean on January 24, 2007, 12:51:46 PM

Yeah. Sci-Fit is all over that site. 8 failed products and 2 certified ok. I joined up and looked at the lab data on those items... Very dissapointing.
It doesnt matter if they're a "value" company... They shouldnt be selling people things to put into their bodies that isnt what it says it is.
For instance, the lab data on a few products showed ND (non-detectable)... So whats in it then??? WTF? So you're telling me they're selling products that cost as high as 60 bucks and they're just selling me sugar powder or something?? There are laws that are in place to prevent this type of thing you know?
But, look at the others on there that didnt pass. BSN Cell Mass?? Cell Tech...

You paid?

Then leech the fucking page!

sean · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2007, 01:01:02 PM »

I can't. Its stated in the disclaimer when you register that "sharing of this material could result in potention legal action".

DK II · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2007, 01:02:44 PM »

Quote from: sean on January 24, 2007, 01:01:02 PM

I can't. Its stated in the disclaimer when you register that "sharing of this material could result in potention legal action".

ahahaahaaaaaaa. Sure.

But who the fuck will they know what you copy and paste?

WhiteHulk4 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2007, 07:25:29 AM »

Ever copied a CD? Or made a copy of a movie??? Didn't you pay attention to the FBI Warning??? THEY'RE COMING AFTER YOU BITCH!!! FEAR THE COPYRIGHT!!!

Bluto · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2007, 03:47:57 PM »

loco · « **Reply #22 on:** January 26, 2007, 04:49:41 AM »

I had a one year membership to http://www.consumerlab.com/ because a scientist recommended it to me.

Interesting stuff, but they never tested the brands that I use while I was a member. The reason these sites charge a fee is because these tests are not cheap. The funding has to come from somewhere.

Some supplement brands that failed their test the first time corrected the problem, then passed the second time. I believe that consumerlab is legitimate, reliable and truly independent.

24KT · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2007, 12:17:38 AM »

Beware of lead in your supplements folks. It happens more time than you care to know.

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=84b0b0d4-4501-4f62-867f-c4f585a27bb7&f=00&fg=copy

Hope This Helps,

loco · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:20:59 AM »

"ConsumerLab.com report finds unexpected nutrient levels, contamination"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16655168/