Author Topic: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.  (Read 8874 times)

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #75 on: January 27, 2007, 07:56:18 AM »
ha ha,

translation -

it is perfectly ok for an over the hill, out of shape ifbb pro to use pictures of his competitve hey day
and claim that a certain product (that wasn't even in existance at the time) was what built
their physique. i.e. IFBB pros will whore out there names/images/endoresements at the drop of a hat
if it provides a means of  securing income.

Really? Show me where they make the claim that Shawn used their product BEFORE they even had the product...

One of the most moronic posts I've seen...do you even understand what you write??

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #76 on: January 27, 2007, 08:00:02 AM »
Show me where they make the claim that Shawn used their product

And define what the meaning of "is" is...  ::)

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2007, 08:06:48 AM »
Your points are off base...

Using pictures from a spokesman's competitive days are not trying to imply that they used that companies supps....they werent even around when Shawn was competing. The point is that an athlete (shawn in this instance) has attained a certain status in the industry, and has lended their name to a company or a product as a way of putting their stamp of approval to said company...

No one (endorsed athlete included) is trying to give the impression "that if you take our products...you'll look like me..." Just that they will help you along the way and lend to achieving your goals.

chick,
you are so full of crap, poltically correct nonsense & smoke screens that you wouldn't recognize the truth it hit you on the head.

Supplement companies do not use images to say
 "so and so gave his stamp of appoval on our products, and by the way this is what so and so looks like"

these companies use images for the simple purpose of misleading consumers into thinking that so and so's physique/appearance had
something to do with the supplement that they are hawking.

I hope this helps as it can't be explained in any simpler terms.

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2007, 08:14:43 AM »
...and neither can THIS:

THE COMPANY DIDNT EXSIST WHEN THE PICTURES USED WERE TAKEN.

Only a complete idiot would believe thats what they're trying to pass off.....of course, that would explain why you're having such a hard time understanding.

Nevermind...I just answered my own question.

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2007, 08:16:43 AM »
Really? Show me where they make the claim that Shawn used their product BEFORE they even had the product...

One of the most moronic posts I've seen...do you even understand what you write??

check out the vyotech commerical where Shawn proudly holds up his Arnold classic medal
and claims that to be #1 you need to use vytech supplements.


now why would Shawn attach a 1990 Arnold classic medal with a vyocrap product?
tell me Chick? what is your rationalization for that? I'm sure you have one.

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2007, 08:18:21 AM »
...and neither can THIS:

THE COMPANY DIDNT EXSIST WHEN THE PICTURES USED WERE TAKEN.

Only a complete idiot would believe thats what they're trying to pass off.....of course, that would explain why you're having such a hard time understanding.

Nevermind...I just answered my own question.
Bob what do you think of people, not necessarily just Shawn, who endorse products that do not work or do not do what they claim?  Supps, athletic apparel, etc.  Do you feel that it is false advertisment?  I realize they have to say these things but we know that Jeramy Freeman didn't put on 42 lbs in 50 days with Anator and the other Muscle Tech supps....know what I mean?
Squishy face retard

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2007, 08:23:57 AM »
...and neither can THIS:

THE COMPANY DIDNT EXSIST WHEN THE PICTURES USED WERE TAKEN.

Only a complete idiot would believe thats what they're trying to pass off.....of course, that would explain why you're having such a hard time understanding.

Nevermind...I just answered my own question.

I see chick you are slowly putting the facts together, and now you are ready for this.

THATS WHAT MAKES VYOTECHS MARKETING EVEN MORE A FARCE THAN IT ALREADY IS
actually, only a complete idiot would buy a vyotech product because it was endoresed by shawn ray.

both you and Shawn seem to have difficulty with a simple question,

why can't they use current pictures of Shawn Ray if his competitive physique has nothing to do with vyotech products?

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2007, 08:24:51 AM »
THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DEBATE IN TENNIS FOR A LONG TIME NOW. THE PROS ENDORSE RAQUETS THAT ARE OLD CUSTOM MADE ONES OR EVEN PROTOTYPES THAT ARE PAINTED OVER TO LOOK LIKE THE NEW ONES. fALSE ADVERTISING? YES. BECAUSE THE COMPANIES NEVER EVER ADMIT THAT THEY MAKE SPECIAL STICKS JUST FOR THEIR GUYS . BUT TO CLAIM THAT U SEE FEDERER USING A WILSON 6.0 PRO STAFF AND U EXPECT TO WIN GRAND SLAMS IS JUST PLAIN IDIOTIC. SHAWN AND CHICK ARE RIGHT.

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2007, 08:26:45 AM »
Bob what do you think of people, not necessarily just Shawn, who endorse products that do not work or do not do what they claim?  Supps, athletic apparel, etc.  Do you feel that it is false advertisment?  I realize they have to say these things but we know that Jeramy Freeman didn't put on 42 lbs in 50 days with Anator and the other Muscle Tech supps....know what I mean?

I'll answer for Bob (and remove the BS)

what are you and idiot?
false advertising does not exist in the supplment industry!

this practice of making outrageous claims has been done for
several years and that makes it ok.

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2007, 08:30:50 AM »
I see chick you are slowly putting the facts together, and now you are ready for this.

THATS WHAT MAKES VYOTECHS MARKETING EVEN MORE A FARCE THAN IT ALREADY IS
actually, only a complete idiot would buy a vyotech product because it was endoresed by shawn ray.

both you and Shawn seem to have difficulty with a simple question,

why can't they use current pictures of Shawn Ray if his competitive physique has nothing to do with vyotech products?

There is an entire ad campaign coming out with CURRENT pictures of Shawn...using Vyotech supps.

Maybe now you can get some sleep...

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2007, 08:45:10 AM »
no offense dudes..However, this topic is dead wood...We all know these supplemets don't do shit..It Has been proven time and time again...These supplements are simply marketing ploys to catch the newbies or very naive adults, who don't know that steroids are part of bodybuilding.. :P

Or those who want to believe..These Supplements are kind of like "religion"
They give hope to those with weak Minds and apparently weak bodies..

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2007, 08:57:42 AM »
Chick: I ask you to consider the possibility that since you derive income from this practice and we don't, we might be in a better position to look at it objectively...

When a TV commercial shows some hot bitch leaning against a Lamborghini and pouring a Pepsi down her throat while she fellates the can, they're not claiming that drinking Pepsi will score you that ass. But that's the association that the advertiser has paid a lot of money to sneak into your mind. And "sneak" is the correct word - because obviously it won't hold up to a second of scrutiny.

So yes, the supplement companies' ads don't say "Our shit can make you look like this pro". But honesty would compel you to admit that this is the message they're trying to sneak into the minds of the desperate gym rats who keep them in business. Your insistence that the pro isn't responsible if anyone is stupid enough to believe it can never change the fact that it's not, you know, nice. In fact: in other contexts, making money by exploiting people's ignorance is called "fraud".

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2007, 09:01:38 AM »
Shawn, you mean that you're using Kamali the same way that Donald Trump is using Rosie O'Donnell for publicity? (of course not to compare you to The Donald and Kamali to Rosie in any way.)
I think it would be safe to say that one can compare The King to Rosie O'Donnell. Easily!
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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2007, 09:04:49 AM »
There is an entire ad campaign coming out with CURRENT pictures of Shawn...using Vyotech supps.

Maybe now you can get some sleep...

i guess you don't want to answer the question about the 1990 arnold classic medal used in a vyotech ad
thats ok. i wasn't expecting much from you in the way of a substantial answer anyway.


i've heard of these vytech ads of shawn's before and after transformation that has been "supposed to come out soon" for
a while now. I'll believe it when I see it.
If/When it comes out, then Shawn can go to sleep knowing that he isn't as deceiving a spokeperson as he is now.

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2007, 09:46:14 AM »
Gay for pay and Bogus supplements are what made bodybuilding what it is today.. :o

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Re: Hey, Chick, I'd like to ask you this, regarding Kamali.
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2007, 07:27:41 PM »
ha ha,

translation -

it is perfectly ok for an over the hill, out of shape ifbb pro to use pictures of his competitve hey day
and claim that a certain product (that wasn't even in existance at the time) was what built
their physique. i.e. IFBB pros will whore out there names/images/endoresements at the drop of a hat
if it provides a means of  securing income.

hahahahaaaaaaaaa!!! Funny how a "protein company" wants to use my dead boyfriends pic for their website. You seem a bit underknowledged...if that's even a word.

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