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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2008, 06:41:07 PM »

You've never worked construction for a living , have you?

No, but I know lots of people who work construction for a living.   Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2008, 06:43:49 PM »

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I just finished my taxes for 2007.

I OWE $6222 (FVCK YOU very much AMT). If I didn't switch companies last year and pay more to social security (which I'll never ever fvcking get back) I'd owe around $10,000 (another MIDDLE CLASS family I know owes $20,000).

I claim married ZERO on my W-4 as does my wife. I've maxed out my 401k contributions. There is only so much you can (legally) do to make your taxable income smaller.

I am, by no fvcking means, a rich man. Even though my taxable income (between my wife and I) almost hits 300k a year I am like every other middle class schmuck that gets up early and goes to work every day to support his family and try to give his children a better life than the one he had a kid.

I'm so fvcking mad I could punch a kitten.  Angry

So help me God it's going to take every ounce of self control to not punch the next fvcking liberal in the neck that tells me because I make "too much" I can afford to pay more fvcking taxes.

This is why I will NEVER vote for ANY politician that thinks it's okay to fuck us by raising our taxes. I don't care if your poor, middle class, or rich. If you work for it and earn it it's YOURS.

I'm so goddamn sick and tired of the government pissing away our tax dollars on stupid fucking bullshit. What the fvck are we paying for?

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Sorry to hear that dude.  You're part of the "wealthy" with a target on your back.  Obama will do whatever he can to "roll back" your tax cut.   
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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2008, 06:51:37 PM »

Sorry to hear that dude.  You're part of the "wealthy" with a target on your back.  Obama will do whatever he can to "roll back" your tax cut.   

And that is why I said I can't afford to vote for him.

The middle class is seriously taking it in the ass.

Funny thing is I don't blame the rich. It's rich guys that create jobs - not the government.

I blame the fvckwad politicians that piss our money away to buy votes and stuff their goddamn pockets.


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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2008, 06:55:25 PM »

And that is why I said I can't afford to vote for him.

The middle class is seriously taking it in the ass.

Funny thing is I don't blame the rich. It's rich guys that create jobs - not the government.

I blame the fvckwad politicians that piss our money away to buy votes and stuff their goddamn pockets.




Fear not... if elected Obama will redefine what rich is to include you. Your taxes will be higher but being considered rich instead of middle class should make you feel better. Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2008, 06:57:29 PM »

Fear not... if elected Obama will redefine what rich is to include you. Your taxes will be higher but being considered rich instead of middle class should make you feel better. Smiley

Yay socialism.  Roll Eyes

By tax purposes I'm already "rich". To hell with regional cost of living expenses, right?
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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2008, 07:09:19 PM »

And that is why I said I can't afford to vote for him.

The middle class is seriously taking it in the ass.

Funny thing is I don't blame the rich. It's rich guys that create jobs - not the government.

I blame the fvckwad politicians that piss our money away to buy votes and stuff their goddamn pockets.




True. 

In addition to the adverse impact on us individual taxpayers, we all suffer when the government raises taxes on business, because business just passes those increased costs along to consumers.  They raised the general excise tax here a couple years ago and businesses simply raised the GET they already passed along to their customers.  Everyone takes a hit when taxes are raised like this.   
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« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2008, 07:17:35 PM »

Yay socialism.  Roll Eyes

By tax purposes I'm already "rich". To hell with regional cost of living expenses, right?


Please get over that stupid idea. The money you go to work for on a daily basis is not yours. The feeling you'll get from knowing how happy that money will make all those lazy people feel should be more than enough.

What most socialists aren't honest enough to admit is... most of the crappy policies they advocate will not affect their income at all so they actually think the money is free. I always love it when people who don't work and pay no taxes say "the rich should pay their fair share". I can tell you from personal experience, lazy people who don't work get really pissy and defensive after being reminded they don't pay any taxes.
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« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2008, 07:32:16 PM »

Please get over that stupid idea. The money you go to work for on a daily basis is not yours. The feeling you'll get from knowing how happy that money will make all those lazy people feel should be more than enough.

What most socialists aren't honest enough to admit is... most of the crappy policies they advocate will not affect their income at all so they actually think the money is free. I always love it when people who don't work and pay no taxes say "the rich should pay their fair share". I can tell you from personal experience, lazy people who don't work get really pissy and defensive after being reminded they don't pay any taxes.

I'll NEVER get over the "stupid" idea that the money I work hard for isn't mine.

I don't think hard working Americans bust their asses so communist socialist progressive minded politicians can take from those that have to buy votes from those that don't.









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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2008, 04:03:58 AM »

I'll NEVER get over the "stupid" idea that the money I work hard for isn't mine.

I don't think hard working Americans bust their asses so communist socialist progressive minded politicians can take from those that have to buy votes from those that don't.

You just don't care about the children, LOL! Greedy fkr!!! Sad

Here's the problem: Real rich people already pay 40% of taxes and poor people pay nothing. The middle class are the only prople the govt can screw over so they keep redefining rich. What the middle class need is to do is hold another tea party.... everyone who gets their taxes raised should refuse to work for one week across the nation.
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2008, 04:24:22 AM »

2007 Federal Budget.  LOL, almost 300 Billion on Unemployment and Welfare.  Down in So. Florida, I can't even count all the assholes living in 3-4 bedroom houses that normally fetch $1500 per month staying there practically for free.....our tax dollars feeding into overinflated housing prices.  Whereas people who want to do things the right way are priced out of the housing market and pay through the nose, especially their children.

# 586.1 billion (+7.0%) - Social Security
# $548.8 billion (+9.0%) - Defense[2]
# $394.5 billion (+12.4%) - Medicare
# $294.0 billion (+2.0%) - Unemployment and welfare
# $276.4 billion (+2.9%) - Medicaid and other health related
# $243.7 billion (+13.4%) - Interest on debt
# $89.9 billion (+1.3%) - Education and training
# $76.9 billion (+8.1%) - Transportation
# $72.6 billion (+5.8%) - Veterans' benefits
# $43.5 billion (+9.2%) - Administration of justice
# $33.1 billion (+5.7%) - Natural resources and environment
# $32.5 billion (+15.4%) - Foreign affairs
# $27.0 billion (+3.7%) - Agriculture
# $26.8 billion (+28.7%) - Community and regional development
# $25.0 billion (+4.0%) - Science and technology
# $23.5 billion (+0.0%) - Energy
# $20.1 billion (+11.4%) - General government
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2008, 04:24:54 AM »

<MELTDOWN>

I just finished my taxes for 2007.

I OWE $6222 (FVCK YOU very much AMT). If I didn't switch companies last year and pay more to social security (which I'll never ever fvcking get back) I'd owe around $10,000 (another MIDDLE CLASS family I know owes $20,000).

I claim married ZERO on my W-4 as does my wife. I've maxed out my 401k contributions. There is only so much you can (legally) do to make your taxable income smaller.

I am, by no fvcking means, a rich man. Even though my taxable income (between my wife and I) almost hits 300k a year I am like every other middle class schmuck that gets up early and goes to work every day to support his family and try to give his children a better life than the one he had a kid.

I'm so fvcking mad I could punch a kitten.  Angry

So help me God it's going to take every ounce of self control to not punch the next fvcking liberal in the neck that tells me because I make "too much" I can afford to pay more fvcking taxes.

This is why I will NEVER vote for ANY politician that thinks it's okay to fuck us by raising our taxes. I don't care if your poor, middle class, or rich. If you work for it and earn it it's YOURS.

I'm so goddamn sick and tired of the government pissing away our tax dollars on stupid fucking bullshit. What the fvck are we paying for?

</MELTDOWN>




You can cry like a little girl, ...or you could do something that gives you some dignity
over when & what taxes you pay ...otherwise your life will start to look like this permanently!



You just don't care about the children, LOL! Greedy fkr!!! Sad

Here's the problem: Real rich people already pay 40% of taxes and poor people pay nothing. The middle class are the only prople the govt can screw over so they keep redefining rich. What the middle class need is to do is hold another tea party.... everyone who gets their taxes raised should refuse to work for one week across the nation.

Is it the children, ...or the trillions sent in aid to a 1st world nation?
How much money did y'all send to Israel last year? What about the B&S bailout?
Your bailout of B&S meant the rich execs got to keep their multimillion dollar bonuses paid out just weeks before
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2008, 05:22:45 AM »

Yes jag, our gov gives too much in aid when are people need it here!

w8tlftr, what some democrats have done is to lower the income that is defined as 'rich' so these new rich people could be taxed higher, that is exactly what Obama wants to do.  You will now be classified as rich if you make $70,000-$150,00 (and over) in this country.  You don't like your taxes now?  They will certainly go up under Obama in your income bracket since your in an established 'rich' tax bracket.  Its not fair.  Shit, my wife and I made a little less than half of what you guys did and got nailed with taxes too!
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2008, 08:00:42 AM »

You just don't care about the children, LOL! Greedy fkr!!! Sad

Here's the problem: Real rich people already pay 40% of taxes and poor people pay nothing. The middle class are the only prople the govt can screw over so they keep redefining rich. What the middle class need is to do is hold another tea party.... everyone who gets their taxes raised should refuse to work for one week across the nation.

LOL. I care about MY children - charity starts at home.

And unfortunately because I now have to squirrel away extra money to cover the damn AMT going without a weeks pay is a bad idea... and people like you and me are the lucky ones.

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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2008, 08:05:03 AM »



You can cry like a little girl, ...or you could do something that gives you some dignity
over when & what taxes you pay ...otherwise your life will start to look like this permanently!



Is it the children, ...or the trillions sent in aid to a 1st world nation?
How much money did y'all send to Israel last year? What about the B&S bailout?
Your bailout of B&S meant the rich execs got to keep their multimillion dollar bonuses paid out just weeks before

Judi, I luv ya but please it's not a good time to say "work at home."

And who said I'm crying?! I'm so fvcking angry I'm turning green.
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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2008, 08:07:12 AM »

Yes jag, our gov gives too much in aid when are people need it here!

w8tlftr, what some democrats have done is to lower the income that is defined as 'rich' so these new rich people could be taxed higher, that is exactly what Obama wants to do.  You will now be classified as rich if you make $70,000-$150,00 (and over) in this country.  You don't like your taxes now?  They will certainly go up under Obama in your income bracket since your in an established 'rich' tax bracket.  Its not fair.  Shit, my wife and I made a little less than half of what you guys did and got nailed with taxes too!

In the Peoples Republic of Maryland what I earn makes me middle class.

That is why our progressive tax system is broken.

If I made this money in a state like Florida or Arizona I'd would agree that I was "rich."
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« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2008, 08:59:14 AM »

In the Peoples Republic of Maryland what I earn makes me middle class.

That is why our progressive tax system is broken.

If I made this money in a state like Florida or Arizona I'd would agree that I was "rich."


The Peoples Democratic Republic of MD.. lol

Where are u in MD?  Being stuck halfway between DC and Baltimore makes my income worth diddely squat these days.  I should move to Frederick.
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« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2008, 11:10:31 AM »

I'm with you w8tlfr.  I think the government should drastically cut spending and borrowing from other countries.  We do not need to raise taxes on the middle, upper middle and upper classes.  Our buying power is already lower.  We need to stand up against wasteful gov spending, excessive aid and borrowing.  One of our largest expendatures right now is interest on our loans from other countries....insane!
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« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2008, 11:13:56 AM »

2007 Federal Budget.  LOL, almost 300 Billion on Unemployment and Welfare.  Down in So. Florida, I can't even count all the assholes living in 3-4 bedroom houses that normally fetch $1500 per month staying there practically for free.....our tax dollars feeding into overinflated housing prices.  Whereas people who want to do things the right way are priced out of the housing market and pay through the nose, especially their children.

# 586.1 billion (+7.0%) - Social Security
# $548.8 billion (+9.0%) - Defense[2]
# $394.5 billion (+12.4%) - Medicare
# $294.0 billion (+2.0%) - Unemployment and welfare
# $276.4 billion (+2.9%) - Medicaid and other health related
# $243.7 billion (+13.4%) - Interest on debt
# $89.9 billion (+1.3%) - Education and training
# $76.9 billion (+8.1%) - Transportation
# $72.6 billion (+5.8%) - Veterans' benefits
# $43.5 billion (+9.2%) - Administration of justice
# $33.1 billion (+5.7%) - Natural resources and environment
# $32.5 billion (+15.4%) - Foreign affairs
# $27.0 billion (+3.7%) - Agriculture
# $26.8 billion (+28.7%) - Community and regional development
# $25.0 billion (+4.0%) - Science and technology
# $23.5 billion (+0.0%) - Energy
# $20.1 billion (+11.4%) - General government

Excellent post.. very enlightening.
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« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2008, 01:11:14 PM »

I'm with you w8tlfr.  I think the government should drastically cut spending and borrowing from other countries.  We do not need to raise taxes on the middle, upper middle and upper classes.  Our buying power is already lower.  We need to stand up against wasteful gov spending, excessive aid and borrowing.  One of our largest expendatures right now is interest on our loans from other countries....insane!

Well, I supported Ron Paul and the GOP black balled the man because he <gasp!> held American policy makers accountable for their failures.
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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2008, 02:00:14 PM »

I can only imagine what Obama would do on the subject of reperations.. hmm..
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2008, 04:15:04 PM »

I can only imagine what Obama would do on the subject of reperations.. hmm..

He'd probably say the only way to provide any kind of reparation is to ensure ALL kids have a good education, and the promise of a future.
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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2008, 04:31:27 PM »

Judi, I luv ya but please it's not a good time to say "work at home."

Did I say that? nuh-uh... I think you brought it up. ...sides, I thought you already did work from home?
Oh yeah, ...I forgot, they transferred you, so now you are stuck doing that gawdawful commute.
Must be frustrating having someone else making decisions for you without you having any say so  Cry

Look on the bright side, ...at least they don't tell you when to start working, ...when to stop working,
...when you can eat lunch, ...when to come back from lunch, ...when you can go pee, ...when you can't,
...when to take a coffee break, ...when to come back from your beak, ...or how long the break can be.

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And who said I'm crying?! I'm so fvcking angry I'm turning green.


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« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2008, 05:21:04 PM »

He'd probably say the only way to provide any kind of reparation is to ensure ALL kids have a good education, and the promise of a future.

Yeah ok..  Roll Eyes

Isn't that more the role of the parent? 
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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2008, 05:24:34 PM »

Yeah ok..  Roll Eyes

Isn't that more the role of the parent? 

Parents have quit reading to kids at night.  See, the parents are on the myspace too.

So, the kids don't read at night.  No practice means they can't read in school.  So they take away all the science/ history/music/art time and devote that to reading.  So the kids have no clue what the constutition is, how their body works, anything about great leaders, no ability to think independently or create things.

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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2008, 06:22:00 PM »

Yeah ok..  Roll Eyes

Isn't that more the role of the parent? 

Perhaps, ...if the child is home schooled, ...however the majority of working families in North America don't have the ability to home school their kids. They're too busy working their buns off to put "food on their families", so they must instead rely on the school systems, whether public or private.
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