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Author Topic: TONEY FREEMAN won the Ironman, does that make him a threat in the ARNOLD???  (Read 8126 times)
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« on: February 18, 2007, 04:03:50 PM »

Someone's barking up Dexter's tree. Can Toney take it?
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 04:05:02 PM »

no hell no!!!!! the IRONMAN was a 3rd tier show...
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 04:07:21 PM »

Victor, Dex, Heath. Toney in fourth.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 04:08:54 PM »

no hell no!!!!! the IRONMAN was a 3rd tier show...

Below the Nationals.........
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 04:20:01 PM »

Victor, Dex, Heath. Toney in fourth.

Dexter BARELY got his shit together last year. He better watch out for Phil Heath and Victor Martinez.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 04:21:03 PM »

Dex, Toney, Phill, and Victor.....that would be a helluva first callout.  Maybe Gustavo is he's peeled.  It should be a very intersting Arnold.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 04:23:06 PM »

It should be a very intersting Arnold.

With cats like Toney, Phil, and Victor, it should be VERY interesting.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 05:05:26 PM »

I personally hope Branch is in the mix as well.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2007, 05:26:53 PM »

I am certain that powers to be have already given the first place to Phil Heath.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2007, 05:27:54 PM »

Victor will win the ASC easily.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2007, 06:05:58 PM »

gustavo is pregnant
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2007, 06:09:49 PM »

gustavo is pregnant

They ALL are, aren't they?  Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2007, 06:21:34 PM »

If Gustavo is shredded like he was in 2004, he will easily beat dexter and place second behind Victor
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2007, 06:26:15 PM »

The Blade said in MD that Phil is gonna come in out of shape
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2007, 06:27:18 PM »

i think victor will win, tony fifth at best
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2007, 06:28:16 PM »

If Gustavo is shredded like he was in 2004, he will easily beat dexter and place second behind Victor

2004 is three years ago.

 Gustavo has gone downhill since then, which is weird because he should be in his prime.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2007, 06:28:31 PM »

Dexter is way overrated.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2007, 06:29:33 PM »

2004 is three years ago.

 Gustavo has gone downhill since then, which is weird because he should be in his prime.

he looked awesome at the 2005 O too

he need to concentrate on his condition and he will look awesome
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2007, 06:31:15 PM »

Has an Ironman winner ever won the Arnold?

What defines a 3rd Tier show... Like when Ronnie won the O... didn't he won a lesser show that year to get O qualification?

Anyone know the answer to that?
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2007, 06:51:24 PM »

Has an Ironman winner ever won the Arnold?

What defines a 3rd Tier show... Like when Ronnie won the O... didn't he won a lesser show that year to get O qualification?

Anyone know the answer to that?
Jay Cutler won the Ironman and Arnold in 2003.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2007, 06:53:21 PM »

Jay Cutler won the Ironman and Arnold in 2003.

So that would make it a 2nd tier show at least.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2007, 06:56:55 PM »

So that would make it a 2nd tier show at least.
I believe the Ironman has lost its luster a bit.  The year Cutler won it went

1. Jay Cutler
2. Melvin Anthony
3. Flex Wheeler (last show)

Since that show every year the competition has fallen off a bit.  Priest won last year and his stiffest competition was a dialed in Dave Henry.  2005 it was Gustavo Badell who was at 85 percent maybe and he beat out Lee Priest who wasnt at his best IMO.
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2007, 07:08:23 PM »

I am certain that powers to be have already given the first place to Phil Heath.


And I think you're right.


Dex second.

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2007, 07:13:20 PM »

Very true Amir, I think you are right too
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2007, 08:04:42 PM »

vic will win the show for sure...Toney will be lucky to crack the top 5
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