you wrote so much rubbish in your post and brought it out so patheticaly and went to so many directions of thought,
No, there is a single point in my critique: that you are not a pro bodybuilder, because otherwise you'd have blue stard, and your excuse for not having blue stars is nonsensical, because you can still have blue stars and remain anonymous.
Also, even if you were a pro bodybuilder - not the case -, you'd still not be a steroid expert, because you dobn't know even the basics of endocrinology and your claim sare outrighyt
false. What claims? Namely, that the level that you achieve as a bodybuilder is all about how your body responds to androgens. Guess what? If you have an extreme response to steroids and yet short muscle bellies, a poor skeletal frame, etc, you won't make it as a top amateur or pro. Period.
, that only thing someone will be able to remember out of your post is the curses,,you do curse a lot while i keep insults to minimum in my answers,,
The irony!
This coming from someone who told me to go fuck myself and to suck dick. You
melted down because I called you out and exposed you for the fraud you are. You lost your emotional control and everyone saw it. You're not a pro bodybuilder, but a small time peddler who came here to make propaganda of steroids, and the best cover is to say that you're a pro and that your supposedly massive muscles are the result of such and such drugs and doses, etc. Liar. Loser.
this is first rule in getting your point across,,so learn it if you really want me to try reading whole of your post next time around,,
You are a loser. I couldn't care less whether you read my posts; I care that others read my post so that they won't be deceived by your lying ass. Did you already find out who I am? You said that you would destroy me. I'm still waiting.
you curse because that is the only thiing you can do,,as i said a kid,,that is also why i wont bother with you,,
Oh, but you did say that you would find out who I am and destroy me. You obviously do bother about me...
you have zero clue about what you are talking about,, you have no clue about what it takes to get real big as in muscle big while maintaining low bodyfat%,
I do know a lot more about that than you do. First, I know more about training and nutrition than you do, and secondly, I could school you in endocrinology, since I am getting my masters degree in physiology.
Losers like you are the reason why the bodybuilding world is in the state it is; it is because of people like you that kids nowadays don't even care about how to train right, because so-called "experts" like you promise them massive gains in a few weeks by using chemicals - and I bet that you don't even weight 200 lbs.
I know that it's possible to gain 30, 40 and sometimes even 50 lbs of lean muscle without any drugs whatsoever through years of serious bodybuilding training and lifestyle. The reason why most guys don't gain is because they don't want it badly enough. I barely see anyone doing heavy deadlifts or squats nowadays, and actually bothering to eat six meals a day.
,i never seen you next to me on ifbb stage,,,i did see thomas and chris while on "my hormones" and i did see them with out "my hormones",,
You didn't see anyone at that stage, since you weren't there either...
i did see paul and ken on my hormones and i also saw them off my hormones,,so you have no say what so ever because you never belong to our group,,,i doubt you ever did nationals or the usa either,,if you did anything it is probably local but i dont think you even done that,,becuase even local competitors juice to the gills!
And what has that got to do with anything? First, you don't even know who I am, and I could actually be an I.F.B.B pro. Secondly, who said that a guy needs to compete to be big? I know guys who weight a lean 250 lbs who never competed. There is little money in bodybuilding, so there is no incentive to compete.
And bodybuilders may all take sauce, so what? You dpn't need them to develop an incrddible physique. The young men of ancient Greece and Rome developed beautiful physiques without even working out, just by doing regular military training. The boy who served as model for Michaelangelo's "David" developed his physique by doing farm work.
Eugene Sandow, who's name became synonymous with pgious bodybuilding trophy, lived in the late Nineteenth century, an epoch where there were no drugs at al around, and he weighted a very lean 220 lbs while being of average height.
the way you talk about faith and will and if you do this and that and take it seriously and eat 18 times a day and sleep exactly same time every night,,this is all good and nice BUT IT IS NOT THE WAY TO GROW TO MY SIZE NOR IS IT THE WAY TO GROW TO 215LB SIZE.
Utter bullshit! Mike Tyson weighted 215 lbs with single-digit bodyfat at a height of 5'10. Did he use steroids? No, he didn't. Magns Ver Magnusson, the former World's strongest man, weighted 300 lbs. Now, let's assume that he carried 20% bodyfat. Well, in that case, that would still mean that he had 240 lbs of fat-free body mass! And please don't say that he was on steroids, because the World's Strongest Man has one of the strictest drug-testing policies in the World. If Magnusson carried 3% bodyfat, his bodyweight would be 247.5 lbs, which is more than most saucers can claim. "GH15", you dipshit, you're
owned.
he reason why most guys don't gain is because they don't train hard and smart enough.
There is no reason why the average male cannot pack 20 to 40 lbs of lean muscle mass to his frame without any drugs whatsoever. Stuart McRobert has already explained that increasing muscle mass in actually very simple: you increase your strengh in the 6 to 10 rep range in the basic multi-joint exercises while maintaining strict form and you grow. Period. If done right, after five years your strengh will have at least doubled and you will carry 20 to 40 lbs of muscle than you did before, which is far more than you gain from one or three steroid cycles after you come off and lose all that water retained under your skin.
this sport and industry if flooded with drugs,,,it is the main reason for any thing that going on,,,if the drug dry out the number of bodybuilders will shrink to a very minimal number,,,and those who stay in bodybuilding will look nothing to talk about.
Wrong again! The 1990 Olympia was drug tested, and Haney still weighted a lean 239 lbs on a 5'11 frame. He was 10 lbs or so lighter than in previous years, granted, but he was at his best in terms of conditioning.
Owned again.
You make it seem like it's all about drugs, when drugs will nwever conmpensate for lousy structures. Most competitive bodybuilders at the top amateur level are now competing around 245, 250 lbs, which is heavier than Arnold's heaviest contest weight of 237 lbs. In other words, they havfe more muscularity than Arnold ever did. Yet, no one questions the fact that Arnold is a vastly superior bodybuilder than an7y guys competing at the amateur or even pro level today.
teroids and other drugs only boost muscularity; they do not build superior physiques in terms of structure, muscle bellies attachment and completeness. The best guys will still have the best physiques. Cutler carries 40 lobs of muscle more than Heath, and yet I would give th Olympia to Heath any day over Cutler, because his skeletal and muscular structure is so superior.
you must understand that i have no reason to lie,,to any one,,i am a known IFBB PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER,,i also am deep in the game of bodybuilding "supp",,this is the only reason i come here under the gh15 id,,,i said it plenty of times before,,,the only reason you can get the whole truth from me and nothing but the truth,,is the gh15 identity.
Bullshit. Your excuse is pathetic because you could have a blue stars account and still remain anonymous.
from the first day i steped on this board i was looking for someone to handle me my ass like you say my friend,,,but itcant happen,,because there is NO ONE THAT KNOWS BETTER THAN ME THE RESULTS THAT CAN BE OBTAINED BY THE USE OF HORMONES,
That's probably the reason why, when the bodybuilders who are under the care of you so-called "experts" become violently ill from their drug regimens or so, they go to real medical doctors, real endocrinologists with their fancy PhDs and lack of "hands on" experience with the drugs.
Yeah, guys who had to go through eight years of medical school and write a doctoral thesis against...high scholl drop-outs like you, who don't know the difference between a receptor and a sub-receptor.
there is also no one on this board or any board that knows better than me the actual hannds on changed to the body that you can obtain by using them,,
That's your sales pitch. I think it's even better than the other one, you know, that you're a pro bodybuilder without a special account...
think about it like this,,i live in steroidland,,its like you have around you dvds,,i have around me hormones,,every one send them to me for approval,,,everyone send them to me for testing,,everyone send them to me so my word will go out and ill give 2 thumbs up about the product,,and the most important thing is,,,whatever i approve i start distributing in BULK,,everything you get through china you get through me! EVERY THING.
Why would anyone need to purchase with a peddler like you if they can drive to Mexico and purchase Searle and Organon products directly from the pharmacy, still in the original boxes, etc. And I hardly believe that everything they get is through you, since the law of supply and demand determines that every field where there's money to be made is flooded by competition. You
are conceited, which is odd
considering that you're a bottom-feeder who is rightfully excluded from the ordinary society of people.
now when it comes to HUMAN GRADE i simply have acess to everything,,it is that simple,,and with us you can also get prescription because docs are ready to give it,, we bought couple docs with money under the table,,so this is another new addition we will add soon for aussie and canadian lifters,,aka less problems for those guys.
I wonder what interest a supposed "pro bodybuilder" would have in selling steroidsm, unless, of course, he's a loser among the pros. Like I've pointed out, real pros make far more money selling MuscleTech products than they do with drugs. Only the pros who can't make it, like Titus, risk going to jail with steroid trafficking. Another evidence that you're
not a pro, or that, if you are, well...you are definitely not competing at the Olympia or at the Arnold.
my friend,,you are way above your leage,,you going into teritory that doesnt belong to you and you got no clue about,,being a major name in the hormone industry today is same as being a major name in the prostitution industry and casino industry,,it is very very big money,,
No doubt it's a lot of mone, although I doubt there's as much as you say, otherwise the Mafia and other criminals would take over and leave little time peddlers, AKA "pro bodybuilders"
like you out of the business. And even if there is so much money, it's still illegal and I wonder why a top pro would risk going to jail if he can still make a shit load of dough through endorsement contracts with supplement and sportswear companies.
the reason we survive so long is because we seperate hormones from narcs,,,the competitors fall because they fall into the narc game and then we help local authorities to fuck them up,,they never know who fuck them up,,but we fuck them up to clean the field,,its the way the world moves my friend,,the old and wrotten die and the young and clean reborn,,
In other words, you stuff the poor bastards with drugs, and when they fail to achieven the fantastic results you advertise, get depressed and start using other types of drugs, you throw them in the trash can like a used piece of toilet tissue. Wow, the morals you have...
this game is a lot above your leage,,you love bodybuilding and i understand it,,but you have no clue about what you are talking about,,,
Oh, I have a lot of clue of what I'm talking about. Berry DeMey once injected GH in front of me at the locker room of Powerhouse Gym in Fullerton, California, so I know very well what goes on in bodybuilding as far as ergogenic aids are concerned and I have nop problem with top pros using drugs. However, my beef is with commercialist sensationalist like you, with no sense of ethicsw whatsoever, who make absuerd claims that, if you havw a good respose to steroids, you can win the Nationals by doing nothing more than taking an "X" amount of drugs. In one of your posts you even said that training is pretty much irrelevant, which is ridiculous since all Mr.Olympia, from Arnold to Haney, Dorian and Coleman are notorious for the almost fanatical zeal with which they attacked the weights. Sure, they all used steroids and ither drugs, but since all their competitors were tasking them too, what separated Mr.Olympia from the guy who finished last. Don't say that it's the responsiveness to drugs, becasue there's nop evidence that Coleman ha an innate responsiveness to drugs that was superior to, say, Cormier. As for me being out my league...please...you have been alreadty warned that no one knows as much about bodybuilding as I do here. I have been following professional bodybuilding very closely since 1986. Be warned.
no one argue me because everyone knows that what i say is truth,,you dont see my pro friends argue me because it will be mute point to argue something that you know is true.
I am yet to see even a single double-bling, placebo controlled study verifying any of your absurd assertions. It's nothing more than empty claims on your part: empty claims about you being a pro bodybuilder; empty claims about you being a pro bodybuilder; empty claims about what the drugs and doses you propagandize can do.
life is more than getbig and i come here to open your eyes about the real world of bodybuilding,,about whats going on behind closed doors,,pay attention I NEVER TALK ABOUT GAY FOR PAY AND I NEVER TALK ABOUT THE NARCS AKA COCAINE,,METH,,X,,WEED THAT GO ON IN MAJOR MAJOR AMOUNTS IN THE PARTIES!,,i keep it all with respect to hormones and to bodybuilding as a sport,,it is a whole pandora box if i opened my mouth about the other subjects,,
Of course. Why would talk about cocaine if you don't sell it...yet?
so lets conclude this,,
you need to appriciate that there is a pro that tells it as it is even if i do it under gh15 id,,it is the only way i can do it,,there are many drug dealer reading what i write,,many low level nnarc and pain killer dealers that reading this,,they dont like to hear it,,i have family and you just nneed to do 1+1 and you understand the whole thing behind the name gh15
Again, bullshit. Nothing stops you from having a blue stars account and staying anonymous.
i am still waiting for the day i can learn something from this board or get my ass handed to me by an MD but it cant happen because the poor doc knows im right,,i hope i will learn something new though on any kind of subject,,because as concited i am,,i do like to learn new things from time to time,,
You got your ass handed to you on basic stuff. You can't even tell the difference between a receptor and a sub-receptor. And the fact that your knowledge is bullshit is that no one would pay attention to you when it comes to serious advice on hormones. As an example, would a parent with a stunted child go to you for advice on growth Hormone? No, they would pay the big bucks for the dvice from a legitimate endocrinologist. Would a diabetic consult you about the doses to use for controlling their blood-sugar level? No, they would pay the big bucks for the dvice of a PhD endocrinologist who won't get them killed. Oh man, I guess you're regretting having challenged me now, huh? They warned you, but you didn't listen.
but when it comes to hormones and real hands on bodybuilding,,you wont find any one more knolegable person than gh15,,knowledable to the point i can tell you the exact product a person take wether it is male or female.
I guess that if I wanted advice on how to gain mass through hormones, I would consult an endocrinologist or a veterinarian with "hands on" experience with race-horses or beefing up cattle. I mean, they put
hundreds of pounds on meat on the frames of those animals. Can you top that?
leave the chemistry to the medical books and start living in the real world my friend,,the real world is where results and progress come,,
Completely wrong. Everything that works in practice has to work in theory before. If muscle grows as a result of hormone use, then there's a reasons for it, and a real scientist can tell how to maximaze that far more than you. The reasons why the atomic bomb detonated is because there was first a massive amount of empirical data supporting the hypothesis that it would work. Everything that works in practice works in theory first. Again, these guys may come to you for advice on how to use steroids, but I bet they will go to a real doctor when the damage to their health caused by your drugs is done.
,the medical book is theory,,and you cant work only on therories when it comes to the human body,,,the human body must be taken through trial and error inorder to find what you as a bodybuilder look for,,infact anything in medicine was achieved by trial and error,,,therories are good for making money out of selling books,,theries would be nothing with out trial and error!
Theory
is trial and error, dumbass. When something dioesen't work in practice it is because the theory behind it didn't work either. Correct theories, by definition, do work in practice.
So medical book is all theory, huh? Yeah, that's ´probably the reason why doctors can fix infarcted hearts, cure infections, etc.
GH15: you are a moron.
trust me on that this is my bread and butter.
I think you should cut out all those carbs and fats, becaue they're dulling your brain.
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