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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2007, 11:51:05 PM »
I am a member on all those boards these people source on. I have never seen anybody named GH15 on these boards. I doubt you source on any boards and I doubt you are that big of a dealer. you might want to take some lessons from alin first before claiming your some intenational kingpin.

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2007, 02:07:59 AM »
I am a member on all those boards these people source on. I have never seen anybody named GH15 on these boards. I doubt you source on any boards and I doubt you are that big of a dealer. you might want to take some lessons from alin first before claiming your some intenational kingpin.

haha, gh15 is a little bitch, that's all.

He's probably spending half of his time in WOW, and thinks he's a super monster troll, hahaha.

Delusional idiot.

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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2007, 03:04:39 AM »
dk thats an awsome  pic of buddha

 for a while i was going to get that sleaved on my arm, but tats are not my thing

damm the shit hit the fan 

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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2007, 07:33:09 AM »
take notes and listen to what he says if u wanna progress..on the other hand i think u are fucking with the wrong mofo w/ a big ego..which is bad...

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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2007, 09:59:21 AM »
who cares... If you dont like what he has to say........DON'T LISTEN!!! its that easy.  just like watching tv
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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2007, 04:40:23 PM »
  Since I don't use steroids, GH, isulin, somatostatin-C or any other anabolic agent, then I couldn't care less if you find out who I am or not. Furthermore, who the fuck do you think you are?! There are tons of steroids available in the market, and you certainly don't have any monopoly on them. To make matters worse for you, I have friends who are medical doctors who would prescribe me whatever I want.

  Ok, newbie. ::) So you suffer from paranoid schizofrenia too? So now I'm competition for you? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...I have been a member here for years and have thousands of posts: how many of them are about drugs? In all those years, I must have posted on the steroid board three or four times, tops.

  You're not an I.F.B.B pro, as no pro would get banned from here for talking about drugs, so your excuse for not having blue stars is lame. Lee Priest has already posted his cycle here and no one cared. A few months ago, you got your ass handed to you by an M.D when you dared to spill out your stupidity. You don't even know the names, functions and numbers of steroid sub-receptors and you got owned; hell, I probably know more than you about hormones, and I have no interest in the topic whatsoever.

  Furthermore, you are so ignorant about the topic of bodybuilding, and yet you believe that you're some kind of expert because you've injected some shit up your ass and got some water retention - when it comes to injecting stuff up your ass, I bet you're an "expert".

  You tell people here that the only way for them to gain mass is by taking steroids; you obviously have a vested interest in creating a necessity for these drugs. Folks, don't listen to this retard. It is possible to gain 20, 30, sometimes even 40 lbs of lean mass without any drugs whatsoever. The reason why most guys don't gain is because they don't train hard and smart enough, and don't follow a proper bodybuilding lifestyle. By "bodybuilding lifestyle", I mean going to sleep every night at the same time, eating seven high-protein meals a day, etc.

  You would be surprised how far you could take your bodies without any drugs if you made a serious commitment to bodybuilding. The problem is that most guys don't, and bodybuilding is a jealous wife that only rewards you with the goods if you stay loyal to her.

  Uhhh...I called out the lying loser and ended his credibility with logic, reason and common sense and now he's "out to get me". Oh my...do you have any idea who you're fucking with? Take a look at the truce thread and others. You're way out of you league if you think you can debate me. Is that conceited enough to you? ;)

   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I think all that Test you're injecting is getting converted to estradiol and giving you some serious PMS. Do you want me to explain to you how the conversion process works, steroid expert? ;D ;)

  Utther bullshit. I know guys who take 3 grams of Test and 500 mg of oxymetholone a day in three weeks in, two weeks out cycles and they weight no more than 220 lbs or so. Becoming a successful pro has to do with lengh of the muscle bellies, density of fast twitch, type II muscle fibers and the innate ability of the mitochondria to synthesize myosin and actin, an ability that is only partially enhanced by steroids. The ability of androgen receptors to respond to androgens is secondary; in fact, it is somatostatin-C and not the androgen per se that is responsible for the anabolic effect.

  The sick kids won't show up in the board because this is the internet, you coward, and thus you're well protected. However, I do hope that the parents of some teen who followed your "advice" due to the propaganda that you use to push drugs, promissing massive gains with little effort and got very ill found out your identity and sued your ass for inciting a minor to commit a fellony, and the judge ruled that you should pay as putative damages all the wealth you amassed selling these drugs.

  Sure, "professional bodybuilder". ::) The fact that you spend your time at an internet board pushing drugs goes to show who you really are. A pro bodybuilder would waste his time pushing MuscleTech products on huge magazine ads and not drugs on a board. ;)

  I doubt that a drug dealer is so well known. Who do you think you are? Pablo Escobar? Please, you are a small time peddler. ;)

  You got owned by a "kid". How does that make you feel? ;)

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you wrote so much rubbish in your post and brought it out so patheticaly and went to so many directions of thought,, that only thing someone will be able to remember out of your post is the curses,,you do curse a lot while i keep insults to minimum in my answers,,this is first rule in getting your point across,,so learn it if you really want me to try reading whole of your post next time around,,

you curse because that is the only thiing you can do,,as i said a kid,,that is also why i wont bother with you,,
you have zero clue about what you are talking about,, you have no clue about what it takes to get real big as in muscle big while maintaining low bodyfat%,,i never seen you next to me on ifbb stage,,,i did see thomas and chris while on "my hormones" and i did see them with out "my hormones",,

i did see paul and ken on my hormones and i also saw them off my hormones,,so you have no say what so ever because you never belong to our group,,,i doubt you ever did nationals or the usa either,,if you did anything it is probably local but i dont think you even done that,,becuase even local competitors juice to the gills!

the way you talk about faith and will and if you do this and that and take it seriously and eat 18 times a day and sleep exactly same time every night,,this is all good and nice BUT IT IS NOT THE WAY TO GROW TO MY SIZE NOR IS IT THE WAY TO GROW TO 215LB SIZE.

this sport and industry if flooded with drugs,,,it is the main reason for any thing that going on,,,if the drug dry out the number of bodybuilders will shrink to a very minimal number,,,and those who stay in bodybuilding will look nothing to talk about.

you must understand that i have no reason to lie,,to any one,,i am a known IFBB PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER,,i also am deep in the game of bodybuilding "supp",,this is the only reason i come here under the gh15 id,,,i said it plenty of times before,,,the only reason you can get the whole truth from me and nothing but the truth,,is the gh15 identity.

from the first day i steped on this board i was looking for someone to handle me my ass like you say my friend,,,but itcant happen,,because there is NO ONE THAT KNOWS BETTER THAN ME THE RESULTS THAT CAN BE OBTAINED BY THE USE OF HORMONES,,there is also no one on this board or any board that knows better than me the actual hannds on changed to the body that you can obtain by using them,,

think about it like this,,i live in steroidland,,its like you have around you dvds,,i have around me hormones,,every one send them to me for approval,,,everyone send them to me for testing,,everyone send them to me so my word will go out and ill give 2 thumbs up about the product,,and the most important thing is,,,whatever i approve i start distributing in BULK,,everything you get through china you get through me! EVERY THING.

now when it comes to HUMAN GRADE i simply have acess to everything,,it is that simple,,and with us you can also get prescription because docs are ready to give it,, we bought couple docs with money under the table,,so this is another new addition we will add soon for aussie and canadian lifters,,aka less problems for those guys.

my friend,,you are way above your leage,,you going into teritory that doesnt belong to you and you got no clue about,,being a major name in the hormone industry today is same as being a major name in the prostitution industry and casino industry,,it is very very big money,,

the reason we survive so long is because we seperate hormones from narcs,,,the competitors fall because they fall into the narc game and then we help local authorities to fuck them up,,they never know who fuck them up,,but we fuck them up to clean the field,,its the way the world moves my friend,,the old and wrotten die and the young and clean reborn,,

this game is a lot above your leage,,you love bodybuilding and i understand it,,but you have no clue about what you are talking about,,,

no one argue me because everyone knows that what i say is truth,,you dont see my pro friends argue me because it will be mute point to argue something that you know is true.

life is more than getbig and i come here to open your eyes about the real world of bodybuilding,,about whats going on behind closed doors,,pay attention I NEVER TALK ABOUT GAY FOR PAY AND I NEVER TALK ABOUT THE NARCS AKA COCAINE,,METH,,X,,WEED THAT GO ON IN  MAJOR MAJOR AMOUNTS IN THE PARTIES!,,i keep it all with respect to hormones and to bodybuilding as a sport,,it is a whole pandora box if i opened my mouth about the other subjects,,

so lets conclude this,,

you need to appriciate that there is a pro that tells it as it is even if i do it under gh15 id,,it is the only way i can do it,,there are many drug dealer reading what i write,,many low level nnarc and pain killer dealers that reading this,,they dont like to hear it,,i have family and you just nneed to do 1+1 and you understand the whole thing behind the name gh15

i am still waiting for the day i can learn something from this board or get my ass handed to me by an MD :D but it cant happen because the poor doc knows im right,,i hope i will learn something new though on any kind of subject,,because as concited i am,,i do like to learn new things from time to time,,
but when it comes to hormones and real hands on bodybuilding,,you wont find any one more knolegable person than gh15,,knowledable to the point i can tell you the exact product a person take wether it is male or female.

leave the chemistry to the medical books and start living in the real world my friend,,the real world is where results and progress come,,,the medical book is theory,,and you cant work only on therories when it comes to the human body,,,the human body must be taken through trial and error inorder to find what you as a bodybuilder look for,,infact anything in medicine was achieved by trial and error,,,therories are good for making money out of selling books,,theries would be nothing with out trial and error!

trust me on that this is my bread and butter.







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Re: pm q answerd
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2007, 04:54:57 PM »
I am a member on all those boards these people source on. I have never seen anybody named GH15 on these boards. I doubt you source on any boards and I doubt you are that big of a dealer. you might want to take some lessons from alin first before claiming your some intenational kingpin.

i am not gh15 on any otherboard but getbig,,and all ALL last year o competitors are members of hormone boards online,,plenty of pro card holders and top amatuers are members too.

i dont want to talk much about alin because in any day of the  week id go with ret if i had to chose a partner,,alin had problems and i could get him out of the  game in no time,,they just dont disturbe me and keep to themselves for now,,so i let them be. it doesnt mean they are not goofd sources because they are! but,,

alin is same thing as satch,,,he might dissapear one day with leaving no clue and taking lots of money,,

mark my words as of 2007 and be careful my friends,,take note of that.

and NO IM NOT RET ;) i can feel it coming :D
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2007, 05:14:40 PM »
OK Buddy- whatever retdomestic is a tax artist , naps sells british dragon gear, Gymace retired, their is still GA labs but he is a private source. super T is a small level source who used to sell british dragon but now sells siug and some human grade PCT. I know sources that put these guys to shame. for a pro BB you have alot of time for getbig.

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those 5 i mentioned are IN MY OPINION the top 5 domestic usa,,i took into consideration everything,,

there are no better domestic usa,, as of today,, than those 5

now not to confuse domestic usa source with international source,,,there is a diff because int source ****and sandra get in the list and placed very high,,and yes ****is dom too but his dom is not to par with the other 5.

what i am talking about are sources that work to the domestic usa crowd,,sources that their ta time is second to none,,sources that their products!! were tested hands on by ME and by other labs,,and sources that keep your safty as first priority,,they also have many years in the game and wont go down easy because they are very secured.

WHENEVER I RECOMEND SOMETHING ON GETBIG,,IT IS AFTER THINKING ABOUT IT AND APPROVING IT IN MANY OTHER WAYS THAN A POST,,WHEN I RECOMEND SOMETHING ON GETBIG YOU CAN BE SURE THAT IT IS THE BEST OPTION YOU HAVE FROM ALL ASPECTS. my word is final.

*ga is ga labs,,the name is on,,doesnt have to be same person who ships it,,it is the name that talks,,so when i say ga i mean ga labs or ga because ga will come out with products whenever he feel like it wther humangrade or ug,,right now ga labs domestic can take full control,,a lot less problems and no customs for final product which make life easy and simple.
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Re: pm q answerd
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2007, 05:23:17 PM »
GH 15 IS KING OF JUICE NO MATTER WHO HE IS ,SO SHUT UP AND LEARN SOMETHING

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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2007, 06:07:06 PM »
Wow, someone just has to write a book about this guy and the biz. Love how he mangles the language, and his confidence/arrogance. Like those Harlem drug dealers from the '70's. 

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« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2007, 02:15:26 AM »
Wow, someone just has to write a book about this guy and the biz. Love how he mangles the language, and his confidence/arrogance. Like those Harlem drug dealers from the '70's. 

He is not in steroidland, he's in wonderland, that's for sure.
The guy didn't leave his ego at the door.

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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2007, 06:18:12 AM »
Canada/Aussie you say....interesting  ;D

Should be good since Canada has been pretty dead since last month. There is plenty of $$$ to be had.
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2007, 08:19:21 AM »
Canada/Aussie you say....interesting  ;D

Should be good since Canada has been pretty dead since last month. There is plenty of $$$ to be had.
speak for yourself cuz Canada has not been dead at all but if gh15 here was looking to invest look no further my friend

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« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2007, 08:30:24 AM »
I've been in this game for about 20 years now.  I can tell you that gh15 gives solid "real world" advice.  I could care less if he is an ifbb pro.  Some of the most knowledgeable people on this subject are not pros.  Take his advice or leave it.  It's that simple.

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« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2007, 05:08:52 PM »
I've been in this game for about 20 years now.  I can tell you that gh15 gives solid "real world" advice.  I could care less if he is an ifbb pro.  Some of the most knowledgeable people on this subject are not pros.  Take his advice or leave it.  It's that simple.

I agree that most gurus you will find are not pros yet alone work out very much. take william llewellyn for example. he knows his shit but is no pro and looks like he does not even lift weights. the problem is Gh15 has declared himself a top pro. I dont know too many top pros who surf getbig all day constantly claiming he is a god when it comes to hormones. Im trying to figure out who this guy is. he is obviously a member at outlaw but does not go by gh15. an IP address would really help me identify this man. I do think he knows what he is talking about but is still somebodys gimmick account. The way he answers his Pm's on the open board in the gossip and opinions section makes me think this is some kind of joke. I can also dig up some other post that lead me to belive hes a gimmick.

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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2007, 05:29:07 PM »
I agree that most gurus you will find or not pros yet alone work out very much. take william llewellyn for example. he knows his shit but is no pro and looks like he does not even lift weights. the problem is Gh15 has declared himself a top pro. I dont know too many top pros who surf getbig all day constantly claiming he is a god when it comes to hormones. Im trying to figure out who this guy is. he is obviously a member at outlaw but does not go by gh15. an IP address would really help me identify this man. I do think he knows what he is talking about but is still somebodys gimmick account. The way he answers his Pm's on the open board in the gossip and opinions section makes me think this is some kind of joke. I can also dig up some other post that lead me to belive hes a gimmick.

get your head out of your ass my friend and look more carefully at the gh15 information,,,gh15 is never on getbig all day long nor is he even 1 hour a day!! every single pro buddy/friend of mine is most likely on here a lot more,,gh15 average about 2 posts a day? that if hes on,,the fact you can see gh15 on th elist of present members doesnt mean he is on,,,it means the computer is logged on with out logging off,,and that also shows you that gh15 is afraid of no one because he works from different ips and the computers he works from are registred under diff names than his! so you will never get no where but to a names that has no connection to gh15 what so ever,,

i told you my friends,,,every step in the world was taken to cover my career before i joined getbig,,

gh15 works from proxy on couple different computers,,from couple different locations through out the day,,,each and every computer is wirless and is not connected to any internet provider but to a network station aka stealing the  connection from other friendly computers,,meaning joe does and dina bambolina are providing the connection gh15 is operating on

in addition gh15 works both from overseas and from within usa when ever  he is in usa,,always on laps that can be thrown away while using a magnet to kill the hard drive right before,,never desk top

in addition every site gh15 give the ok to operate is based on over seas servers and never on usa grounds,,everything is to the tip of the top my friend,,

now when i clarified it for you,,,,you can continue with your research ;)

oh and william does look like he trains!

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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2007, 05:45:58 PM »
get your head out of your ass my friend and look more carefully at the gh15 information,,,gh15 is never on getbig all day long nor is he even 1 hour a day!! every single pro buddy/friend of mine is most likely on here a lot more,,gh15 average about 2 posts a day? that if hes on,,the fact you can see gh15 on th elist of present members doesnt mean he is on,,,it means the computer is logged on with out logging off,,and that also shows you that gh15 is afraid of no one because he works from different ips and the computers he works from are registred under diff names than his! so you will never get no where but to a names that has no connection to gh15 what so ever,,

i told you my friends,,,every step in the world was taken to cover my career before i joined getbig,,

gh15 works from proxy on couple different computers,,from couple different locations through out the day,,,each and every computer is wirless and is not connected to any internet provider but to a network station aka stealing the  connection from other friendly computers,,meaning joe does and dina bambolina are providing the connection gh15 is operating on

in addition gh15 works both from overseas and from within usa when ever  he is in usa,,always on laps that can be thrown away while using a magnet to kill the hard drive right before,,never desk top

in addition every site gh15 give the ok to operate is based on over seas servers and never on usa grounds,,everything is to the tip of the top my friend,,

now when i clarified it for you,,,,you can continue with your research ;)

oh and william does look like he trains!



Yes buddy- you are on here quite a bit. any smart operator of an open source board will have it setup on an annonymous server. thats a no brainer. The only way to for sure figure out who you are is too find out what your handle is on outlaw and SSB. you are obviously a member on those sites. william looks like average guy walking down the street.

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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2007, 07:18:01 PM »
you wrote so much rubbish in your post and brought it out so patheticaly and went to so many directions of thought,

  No, there is a single point in my critique: that you are not a pro bodybuilder, because otherwise you'd have blue stard, and your excuse for not having blue stars is nonsensical, because you can still have blue stars and remain anonymous.

  Also, even if you were a pro bodybuilder - not the case -, you'd still not be a steroid expert, because you dobn't know even the basics of endocrinology and your claim sare outrighyt false. What claims? Namely, that the level that you achieve as a bodybuilder is all about how your body responds to androgens. Guess what? If you have an extreme response to steroids and yet short muscle bellies, a poor skeletal frame, etc, you won't make it as a top amateur or pro. Period.


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, that only thing someone will be able to remember out of your post is the curses,,you do curse a lot while i keep insults to minimum in my answers,,

  The irony! ::) This coming from someone who told me to go fuck myself and to suck dick. You melted down because I called you out and exposed you for the fraud you are. You lost your emotional control and everyone saw it. You're not a pro bodybuilder, but a small time peddler who came here to make propaganda of steroids, and the best cover is to say that you're a pro and that your supposedly massive muscles are the result of such and such drugs and doses, etc. Liar. Loser.

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this is first rule in getting your point across,,so learn it if you really want me to try reading whole of your post next time around,,

  You are a loser. I couldn't care less whether you read my posts; I care that others read my post so that they won't be deceived by your lying ass. Did you already find out who I am? You said that you would destroy me. I'm still waiting. ;)

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you curse because that is the only thiing you can do,,as i said a kid,,that is also why i wont bother with you,,

  Oh, but you did say that you would find out who I am and destroy me. You obviously do bother about me... ;)

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you have zero clue about what you are talking about,, you have no clue about what it takes to get real big as in muscle big while maintaining low bodyfat%,

  I do know a lot more about that than you do. First, I know more about training and nutrition than you do, and secondly, I could school you in endocrinology, since I am getting my masters degree in physiology.

  Losers like you are the reason why the bodybuilding world is in the state it is; it is because of people like you that kids nowadays don't even care about how to train right, because so-called "experts" like you promise them massive gains in a few weeks by using chemicals - and I bet that you don't even weight 200 lbs.

  I know that it's possible to gain 30, 40 and sometimes even 50 lbs of lean muscle without any drugs whatsoever through years of serious bodybuilding training and lifestyle. The reason why most guys don't gain is because they don't want it badly enough. I barely see anyone doing heavy deadlifts or squats nowadays, and actually bothering to eat six meals a day.

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,i never seen you next to me on ifbb stage,,,i did see thomas and chris while on "my hormones" and i did see them with out "my hormones",,

  You didn't see anyone at that stage, since you weren't there either... ;)

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i did see paul and ken on my hormones and i also saw them off my hormones,,so you have no say what so ever because you never belong to our group,,,i doubt you ever did nationals or the usa either,,if you did anything it is probably local but i dont think you even done that,,becuase even local competitors juice to the gills!

  And what has that got to do with anything? First, you don't even know who I am, and I could actually be an I.F.B.B pro. Secondly, who said that a guy needs to compete to be big? I know guys who weight a lean 250 lbs who never competed. There is little money in bodybuilding, so there is no incentive to compete.

  And bodybuilders may all take sauce, so what? You dpn't need them to develop an incrddible physique. The young men of ancient Greece and Rome developed beautiful physiques without even working out, just by doing regular military training. The boy who served as model for Michaelangelo's "David" developed his physique by doing farm work.

  Eugene Sandow, who's name became synonymous with pgious bodybuilding trophy, lived in the late Nineteenth century, an epoch where there were no drugs at al around, and he weighted a very lean 220 lbs while being of average height.

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the way you talk about faith and will and if you do this and that and take it seriously and eat 18 times a day and sleep exactly same time every night,,this is all good and nice BUT IT IS NOT THE WAY TO GROW TO MY SIZE NOR IS IT THE WAY TO GROW TO 215LB SIZE.

  Utter bullshit! Mike Tyson weighted 215 lbs with single-digit bodyfat at a height of 5'10. Did he use steroids? No, he didn't. Magns Ver Magnusson, the former World's strongest man, weighted 300 lbs. Now, let's assume that he carried 20% bodyfat. Well, in that case, that would still mean that he had 240 lbs of fat-free body mass! And please don't say that he was on steroids, because the World's Strongest Man has one of the strictest drug-testing policies in the World. If Magnusson carried 3% bodyfat, his bodyweight would be 247.5 lbs, which is more than most saucers can claim. "GH15", you dipshit, you're owned. ;)

 he reason why most guys don't gain is because they don't train hard and smart enough.
There is no reason why the average male cannot pack 20 to 40 lbs of lean muscle mass to his frame without any drugs whatsoever. Stuart McRobert has already explained that increasing muscle mass in actually very simple: you increase your strengh in the 6 to 10 rep range in the basic multi-joint exercises while maintaining strict form and you grow. Period. If done right, after five years your strengh will have at least doubled and you will carry 20 to 40 lbs of muscle than you did before, which is far more than you gain from one or three steroid cycles after you come off and lose all that water retained under your skin.

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this sport and industry if flooded with drugs,,,it is the main reason for any thing that going on,,,if the drug dry out the number of bodybuilders will shrink to a very minimal number,,,and those who stay in bodybuilding will look nothing to talk about.

  Wrong again! The 1990 Olympia was drug tested, and Haney still weighted a lean 239 lbs on a 5'11 frame. He was 10 lbs or so lighter than in previous years, granted, but he was at his best in terms of conditioning. Owned again. ;)

  You make it seem like it's all about drugs, when drugs will nwever conmpensate for lousy structures. Most competitive bodybuilders at the top amateur level are now competing around 245, 250 lbs, which is heavier than Arnold's heaviest contest weight of 237 lbs. In other words, they havfe more muscularity than Arnold ever did. Yet, no one questions the fact that Arnold is a vastly superior bodybuilder than an7y guys competing at the amateur or even pro level today.

 teroids and other drugs only boost muscularity; they do not build superior physiques in terms of structure, muscle bellies attachment and completeness. The best guys will still have the best physiques. Cutler carries 40 lobs of muscle more than Heath, and yet I would give th Olympia to Heath any day over Cutler, because his skeletal and muscular structure is so superior.

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you must understand that i have no reason to lie,,to any one,,i am a known IFBB PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER,,i also am deep in the game of bodybuilding "supp",,this is the only reason i come here under the gh15 id,,,i said it plenty of times before,,,the only reason you can get the whole truth from me and nothing but the truth,,is the gh15 identity.

  Bullshit. Your excuse is pathetic because you could have a blue stars account and still remain anonymous.

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from the first day i steped on this board i was looking for someone to handle me my ass like you say my friend,,,but itcant happen,,because there is NO ONE THAT KNOWS BETTER THAN ME THE RESULTS THAT CAN BE OBTAINED BY THE USE OF HORMONES,

  That's probably the reason why, when the bodybuilders who are under the care of you so-called "experts" become violently ill from their drug regimens or so, they go to real medical doctors, real endocrinologists with their fancy PhDs and lack of "hands on" experience with the drugs. ::) Yeah, guys who had to go through eight years of medical school and write a doctoral thesis against...high scholl drop-outs like you, who don't know the difference between a receptor and a sub-receptor.

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there is also no one on this board or any board that knows better than me the actual hannds on changed to the body that you can obtain by using them,,

  That's your sales pitch. I think it's even better than the other one, you know, that you're a pro bodybuilder without a special account... ;)

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think about it like this,,i live in steroidland,,its like you have around you dvds,,i have around me hormones,,every one send them to me for approval,,,everyone send them to me for testing,,everyone send them to me so my word will go out and ill give 2 thumbs up about the product,,and the most important thing is,,,whatever i approve i start distributing in BULK,,everything you get through china you get through me! EVERY THING.

  Why would anyone need to purchase with a peddler like you if they can drive to Mexico and purchase Searle and Organon products directly from the pharmacy, still in the original boxes, etc. And I hardly believe that everything they get is through you, since the law of supply and demand determines that every field where there's money to be made is flooded by competition. You are conceited, which is odd ??? considering that you're a bottom-feeder who is rightfully excluded from the ordinary society of people.

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now when it comes to HUMAN GRADE i simply have acess to everything,,it is that simple,,and with us you can also get prescription because docs are ready to give it,, we bought couple docs with money under the table,,so this is another new addition we will add soon for aussie and canadian lifters,,aka less problems for those guys.

  I wonder what interest a supposed "pro bodybuilder" would have in selling steroidsm, unless, of course, he's a loser among the pros. Like I've pointed out, real pros make far more money selling MuscleTech products than they do with drugs. Only the pros who can't make it, like Titus, risk going to jail with steroid trafficking. Another evidence that you're not a pro, or that, if you are, well...you are definitely not competing at the Olympia or at the Arnold. ;)

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my friend,,you are way above your leage,,you going into teritory that doesnt belong to you and you got no clue about,,being a major name in the hormone industry today is same as being a major name in the prostitution industry and casino industry,,it is very very big money,,

  No doubt it's a lot of mone, although I doubt there's as much as you say, otherwise the Mafia and other criminals would take over and leave little time peddlers, AKA "pro bodybuilders" ;) like you out of the business. And even if there is so much money, it's still illegal and I wonder why a top pro would risk going to jail if he can still make a shit load of dough through endorsement contracts with supplement and sportswear companies.

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the reason we survive so long is because we seperate hormones from narcs,,,the competitors fall because they fall into the narc game and then we help local authorities to fuck them up,,they never know who fuck them up,,but we fuck them up to clean the field,,its the way the world moves my friend,,the old and wrotten die and the young and clean reborn,,

  In other words, you stuff the poor bastards with drugs, and when they fail to achieven the fantastic results you advertise, get depressed and start using other types of drugs, you throw them in the trash can like a used piece of toilet tissue. Wow, the morals you have... :-X

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this game is a lot above your leage,,you love bodybuilding and i understand it,,but you have no clue about what you are talking about,,,

  Oh, I have a lot of clue of what I'm talking about. Berry DeMey once injected GH in front of me at the locker room of Powerhouse Gym in Fullerton, California, so I know very well what goes on in bodybuilding as far as ergogenic aids are concerned and I have nop problem with top pros using drugs. However, my beef is with commercialist sensationalist like you, with no sense of ethicsw whatsoever, who make absuerd claims that, if you havw a good respose to steroids, you can win the Nationals by doing nothing more than taking an "X" amount of drugs. In one of your posts you even said that training is pretty much irrelevant, which is ridiculous since all Mr.Olympia, from Arnold to Haney, Dorian and Coleman are notorious for the almost fanatical zeal with which they attacked the weights. Sure, they all used steroids and ither drugs, but since all their competitors were tasking them too, what separated Mr.Olympia from the guy who finished last. Don't say that it's the responsiveness to drugs, becasue there's nop evidence that Coleman ha an innate responsiveness to drugs that was superior to, say, Cormier. As for me being out my league...please...you have been alreadty warned that no one knows as much about bodybuilding as I do here. I have been following professional bodybuilding very closely since 1986. Be warned. ;)

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no one argue me because everyone knows that what i say is truth,,you dont see my pro friends argue me because it will be mute point to argue something that you know is true.

  I am yet to see even a single double-bling, placebo controlled study verifying any of your absurd assertions. It's nothing more than empty claims on your part: empty claims about you being a pro bodybuilder; empty claims about you being a pro bodybuilder; empty claims about what the drugs and doses you propagandize can do.

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life is more than getbig and i come here to open your eyes about the real world of bodybuilding,,about whats going on behind closed doors,,pay attention I NEVER TALK ABOUT GAY FOR PAY AND I NEVER TALK ABOUT THE NARCS AKA COCAINE,,METH,,X,,WEED THAT GO ON IN  MAJOR MAJOR AMOUNTS IN THE PARTIES!,,i keep it all with respect to hormones and to bodybuilding as a sport,,it is a whole pandora box if i opened my mouth about the other subjects,,

  Of course. Why would talk about cocaine if you don't sell it...yet? ;D ;)

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so lets conclude this,,

you need to appriciate that there is a pro that tells it as it is even if i do it under gh15 id,,it is the only way i can do it,,there are many drug dealer reading what i write,,many low level nnarc and pain killer dealers that reading this,,they dont like to hear it,,i have family and you just nneed to do 1+1 and you understand the whole thing behind the name gh15

  Again, bullshit. Nothing stops you from having a blue stars account and staying anonymous.

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i am still waiting for the day i can learn something from this board or get my ass handed to me by an MD :D but it cant happen because the poor doc knows im right,,i hope i will learn something new though on any kind of subject,,because as concited i am,,i do like to learn new things from time to time,,

  You got your ass handed to you on basic stuff. You can't even tell the difference between a receptor and a sub-receptor. And the fact that your knowledge is bullshit is that no one would pay attention to you when it comes to serious advice on hormones. As an example, would a parent with a stunted child go to you for advice on growth Hormone? No, they would pay the big bucks for the dvice from a legitimate endocrinologist. Would a diabetic consult you about the doses to use for controlling their blood-sugar level? No, they would pay the big bucks for the dvice of a PhD endocrinologist who won't get them killed. Oh man, I guess you're regretting having challenged me now, huh? They warned you, but you didn't listen. ;)

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but when it comes to hormones and real hands on bodybuilding,,you wont find any one more knolegable person than gh15,,knowledable to the point i can tell you the exact product a person take wether it is male or female.

  I guess that if I wanted advice on how to gain mass through hormones, I would consult an endocrinologist or a veterinarian with "hands on" experience with race-horses or beefing up cattle. I mean, they put hundreds of pounds on meat on the frames of those animals. Can you top that? ;)

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leave the chemistry to the medical books and start living in the real world my friend,,the real world is where results and progress come,,

  Completely wrong. Everything that works in practice has to work in theory before. If muscle grows as a result of hormone use, then there's a reasons for it, and a real scientist can tell how to maximaze that far more than you. The reasons why the atomic bomb detonated is because there was first a massive amount of empirical data supporting the hypothesis that it would work. Everything that works in practice works in theory first. Again, these guys may come to you for advice on how to use steroids, but I bet they will go to a real doctor when the damage to their health caused by your drugs is done.

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,the medical book is theory,,and you cant work only on therories when it comes to the human body,,,the human body must be taken through trial and error inorder to find what you as a bodybuilder look for,,infact anything in medicine was achieved by trial and error,,,therories are good for making money out of selling books,,theries would be nothing with out trial and error!

  Theory is trial and error, dumbass. When something dioesen't work in practice it is because the theory behind it didn't work either. Correct theories, by definition, do work in practice.

  So medical book is all theory, huh? Yeah, that's ´probably the reason why doctors can fix infarcted hearts, cure infections, etc. ::) GH15: you are a moron. :P

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trust me on that this is my bread and butter.

  I think you should cut out all those carbs and fats, becaue they're dulling your brain. ;)

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Re: pm q answerd
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2007, 08:03:54 PM »
hey suckmymuscle... let it go already.. Lets not have this thread turn into 400 pages  :-\

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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2007, 08:11:37 PM »
400pgs of knowledge from GH15 would be just fine w/ me.

Skinny ought to get to work on his degree to go be a slave to the American Medical Industry.
Indentured servant to the Insh industry and politically well connected big Pharma industry. Hell, its a living.
He can write a big paper on how steroid gains are all placebo.

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« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2007, 08:44:17 PM »
bump that

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« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2007, 10:39:15 PM »
Yea, only ap works but u need a username and password which i dont have, get some funky ass sites otherwise.  Tyrone super T band for hire, and the leading sleep site source others are just invalid syntax

None of these guys have websites just emails. super T is not currently sourcing right now as he has seemed to have dissapered from all the boards he was on. your best bet is too join the boards these guys are members on.

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« Reply #47 on: February 26, 2007, 02:23:28 AM »
suck my muscle,,,my argumentive friend,,this is too much to read,,i would read it all if it was shorter but its just too much,,i got no time for bullcrap,,even my last post was too much for me to read so i didnt ,,i just wrote it and didnt look over it,,

if you can do me a favour though,,,ask the members of getbig to pm you some of the questions so im not flooded every time i get here with 20-30 new ones,,for some reason they think i know a lot about bodybuilding and hormones ;) for some reason they all think im a very femiliar face on the pro scence,,,for some reason no one will come here that actually know something and doubt it because i got PANDORA BOX waiting for that person,,,bring the ones who know something to argue me and then you will see me at my best,,,with acurate examples,,dates,,and occations and also narcotic stories included,,i keep my mouth shut untill someone piss me off enough,,but with you it cant happen,,because you simply dont know the sport from within as of 2007,,so why would i bother in finding you or checkin on you,,,not worth it while i can make extra  5k same time,,


from the quick scroll over your first sentences for each paragraf,, you worked hard on it :D,,what i see is complete ignorance when it comes to bodybuilding and professional sports in general as of the late 60s and into  the 2000s

i started to read the part about mike tyson and magnus but after 2 sentences i knew there is no one in the house to talk to,,,its like macfly knock knock anybody home? ,,you have no clue,,,simply zero clue,,tyson was on  test and halo for years,,,tyson also used a lot of cheq drops,,eq,,var,,masteron and also trenbolone to a point during his career and to this day still using,,this is with out mentioning the weed,,cocaine,,pure ephedra,,clenbuterol,,t3,,nubain.. and other intrestting goods he used on regular basis for preping and maintaining low bodyfat while maintaining heavy weight class,,
magnus favorite oral was turkish anapolon ,,he took it at 200-300mg a day and always had base of 1gram testosterone a week at the least wether it was suspension or cyp was depending on wether he had compettion coming or not wether he was offseason or onseason competing,,,

drug tests are the easiest thing to pass,, it is a joke,,hell i use so much shit and every o and anyother pro comp i enter i cheat the system on A REGULAR FUCKIN BASIS,,reason is? i know how to take it and what to take and when to take and again how! to take!!!barry bonds didnt,,i do,,dorian did,,kevin did,,ron did,,dex does,,jason does,,we all know how to do it right,,yes skip too,,

anyway my friend,,it is a mute point to argue with you because you show a complete natural approach that doensnt work in bodybuilding not in many other sports,,i wish it did but it doesnt,,,i also wont read the whole post because its just too much directions you going with out backup and  practical knowledge ,,


i do think you love bodybuilding and that is the only reason i respond to you,,come to me with more beef and shorter to the point posts and i will still answer you,,,
come to me with garbage and complete nonesense and you simply wasting my time,,i dont come here to argue with you because my word is final,,mute point to argue my word,,

good luck though and again make sure you answer some of my pms,,if you can make them pm the questions to you insted of me,,,id much rather come here for the laugh


*what i wrote here is also too long thus i wont even go over it,,enjoy the engish ;)
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« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2007, 04:50:24 AM »
Sandow weighed 220lbs, ripped. I frickin' doub't it. I rarely call bs, because I like the flow, but where is the proof on this one SMM?

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« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2007, 04:53:36 AM »
Sandow weighed 220lbs, ripped. I frickin' doub't it. I rarely call bs, because I like the flow, but where is the proof on this one SMM?

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