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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #225 on: March 08, 2007, 08:43:39 PM »
People and companies have a lot invested in being a part of the IFBB. No company in their right mind is going to jeopardize their relationship by supporting a rival company, when they make millions with the one they support now. This is done in every realm of business on every scale. It's called "knowing where your beread is being buttered"....it's also known as "stepping over a dollar to pick up a quarter"...

You're also forgetting that Wayne burnt a lot of bridges in his time, and many of those same people don't want anything to do with him, or anything he's involved in....



Chic, you know you're my buddy but this post should be taken off.  You are way off on how companies and sponsorships work.  Can you imagine if Budweiser was only able to sponsor one sport.  Or any of the tobacco companies.  How about Nike, they sponsor every team whether last place or first place.  The IFBB holds a stranglehold on their sponsors that is a fact that you cannot dispute no matter how much you try.  It is 100% factual.  I can almost guarantee you and in some cases it is a fact that some of the major sponsors wanted to help Wayne and sponsor the PDI but was approached by Manion.  He told them they would immediately no longer be associated with the IFBB.  That is a FACT that is ever went to court would come out in testamony.  The ONLY reason why this would happen is because the PDI posed to be a threat to the IFBB.  Come on Chic, it is better that you just don't write anything than try to defend how the IFBB has done everything it can to stop Wayne. 

ANd to whoever said they haven't heard anything about the PDI is because the first show this year isn't till September.  The only thing I don't agree with Wayne on the way he is doing things is how he isn't taking having a website seriously.  Even though the PDI gets a tremendous amount of lip-service on ere and other boards, e needs his own site.  I was told by February.  SO who knows. And I have known about the next big name IFBB guy since Jan.  And he is a big name.  And several people have said it. 

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #226 on: March 08, 2007, 08:49:12 PM »
After Lee has served the full term of his suspension, he will have the opportunity to APPLY for reinstatement for pro status in the IFBB. There is no guarantee that his application will be accepted, only that he will be allowed to submit, and all factors will be considered in the final decision.

So he's required to not participate in or even talk about the PDI in exchange for the mere possibility that the IFBB will deign to readmit him.

That's a grand organization you're working for there.  ::)

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #227 on: March 08, 2007, 08:50:25 PM »
True...but I just remember how the guys from the WBF got shafted.

As you know...there was some top of the game guys that couldn't even make a decent showing from that moment on.

So what you're saying....is the organization is being run completley different from those days (from what you can tell)?



Well...they didn't really get shafted...none of them were A-list guys to begin with. Baker did get screwed at the IM, though.....

Yes, the org is much different under Manion than it was under Wayne...

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #228 on: March 08, 2007, 08:54:17 PM »
Well...they didn't really get shafted...none of them were A-list guys to begin with. Baker did get screwed at the IM, though.....

Yes, the org is much different under Manion than it was under Wayne...

Are you saying taht Strydom wasn't "A-list" at that time?? Hell, he's A-list even now, in my opinion. Now if Strydom is not A-list, I wonder what list you are a part of..... ;D
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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #229 on: March 08, 2007, 08:56:58 PM »
Chic, you know you're my buddy but this post should be taken off.  You are way off on how companies and sponsorships work.  Can you imagine if Budweiser was only able to sponsor one sport.  Or any of the tobacco companies.  How about Nike, they sponsor every team whether last place or first place.  The IFBB holds a stranglehold on their sponsors that is a fact that you cannot dispute no matter how much you try.  It is 100% factual.  I can almost guarantee you and in some cases it is a fact that some of the major sponsors wanted to help Wayne and sponsor the PDI but was approached by Manion.  He told them they would immediately no longer be associated with the IFBB.  That is a FACT that is ever went to court would come out in testamony.  The ONLY reason why this would happen is because the PDI posed to be a threat to the IFBB.  Come on Chic, it is better that you just don't write anything than try to defend how the IFBB has done everything it can to stop Wayne. 

ANd to whoever said they haven't heard anything about the PDI is because the first show this year isn't till September.  The only thing I don't agree with Wayne on the way he is doing things is how he isn't taking having a website seriously.  Even though the PDI gets a tremendous amount of lip-service on ere and other boards, e needs his own site.  I was told by February.  SO who knows. And I have known about the next big name IFBB guy since Jan.  And he is a big name.  And several people have said it. 

SEPTEMBER??  Nothing like starting the season 9 months into the year...!

As for the rest...you're giving too much credit that the companies WANT to sponsor the PDI/ help Wayne...no return for their dollar. Without all the things I mentioned they DONT have, there is no point in any supp company throwing money to a minimal audience, which are the same base of fans....pure economics my friend.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #230 on: March 08, 2007, 08:58:58 PM »
Are you saying taht Strydom wasn't "A-list" at that time?? Hell, he's A-list even now, in my opinion. Now if Strydom is not A-list, I wonder what list you are a part of..... ;D

Strydom didn't compete much after the WBF went belly-up....if at all. Plus his lack of back and ability to display his physique would have made it tough for him to have beaten the IFBB's best at that time.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #231 on: March 08, 2007, 09:46:54 PM »
Well...they didn't really get shafted...none of them were A-list guys to begin with. Baker did get screwed at the IM, though.....

Yes, the org is much different under Manion than it was under Wayne...


Off the top of my head....3 guys I consider A-list.


Eddie Robinson, Aaron Baker, & your hometown hero...Danny Padilla.

Correct...Although Gary was considered A-list...he just stopped competing after the WBF downfall.  These 3 guys did compete...& were screwed over.


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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #232 on: March 08, 2007, 09:48:23 PM »
SEPTEMBER??  Nothing like starting the season 9 months into the year...!

As for the rest...you're giving too much credit that the companies WANT to sponsor the PDI/ help Wayne...no return for their dollar. Without all the things I mentioned they DONT have, there is no point in any supp company throwing money to a minimal audience, which are the same base of fans....pure economics my friend.

See now you are going to try and debate me.  Wyane did this so there would be no conflict with the IFBB.  The only show is the Olympia during his shows.  His shows in Europe will all take place in a row so that the guys don't have to string along their diets and cycles.  And you are NOT giving credit to the companies who want to suport BODYBUILDING not just the IFBB.  See that is where you are mixed up.  You only think IFBB.  The sponsors want to think bodybuilding.  But the IFBB doesn't want that.  See you are totally wrong.  And to prove it it is simple.  HAve Manion go public in the mags and with letters to all the major sponsors of the IFBB.  Write that in no way will anything change with the way you (as a sponsor) will be treated at IFBB shows, sponsorship, athletes or publications.  Tell them they are free to sponsor PDI shows.  DO you honestly think no one will go.   I know you don't.  You know you don't.  You just won't admit it.  But that is fine.  I don't want to debate on this.  It doesn't concern me one way or the other.  I have to pick on Apenis and Shadow when he comes back if he does.  And there is Goodbum too

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #233 on: March 08, 2007, 10:45:47 PM »
Lee , hi

Stop tugging the PDI line asap ,  you dont need to now.Im not being funny or anything

Its just gonna make IFBB officials more irritated

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #234 on: March 08, 2007, 11:08:35 PM »


Off the top of my head....3 guys I consider A-list.


Eddie Robinson, Aaron Baker, & your hometown hero...Danny Padilla.

Correct...Although Gary was considered A-list...he just stopped competing after the WBF downfall.  These 3 guys did compete...& were screwed over.



Yeah, Baker always got a raw deal. He was a spectacular bodybuilder.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #235 on: March 08, 2007, 11:42:46 PM »
no...Lee's outspokenness has never been a factor in the past, and wouldn't be in the future...hypothetically assuming he was back in the IFBB, of course.

So, Lee's outspokenness after the '99 Ironman wasn't a factor in his discipline and fining shortly thereafter? Right.  ::)

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #236 on: March 09, 2007, 12:10:17 AM »
This thread is full of nuthuggers, it's really pathetic.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #237 on: March 09, 2007, 03:13:39 AM »
See now you are going to try and debate me.  Wyane did this so there would be no conflict with the IFBB.  The only show is the Olympia during his shows.  His shows in Europe will all take place in a row so that the guys don't have to string along their diets and cycles.  And you are NOT giving credit to the companies who want to suport BODYBUILDING not just the IFBB.  See that is where you are mixed up.  You only think IFBB.  The sponsors want to think bodybuilding.  But the IFBB doesn't want that.  See you are totally wrong.  And to prove it it is simple.  HAve Manion go public in the mags and with letters to all the major sponsors of the IFBB.  Write that in no way will anything change with the way you (as a sponsor) will be treated at IFBB shows, sponsorship, athletes or publications.  Tell them they are free to sponsor PDI shows.  DO you honestly think no one will go.   I know you don't.  You know you don't.  You just won't admit it.  But that is fine.  I don't want to debate on this.  It doesn't concern me one way or the other.  I have to pick on Apenis and Shadow when he comes back if he does.  And there is Goodbum too

The points Keith make are very true.

I thought when Jay became Mr O his objective was to get more people following BB? ..... all I see is him sitting in BB stores preaching to BB's in the USA, I don't like Ronnie, but he at least took the time to travel the world for more than 1 week to spread the message.

This is Jays dream, he can retire after this year and proberly will if he loses the O, he has played all of the community as fools.

The IFBB is the powerhouse at the moment and will blackball anyone or company that doesn't support ONLY it, but people don't forget and when the time comes that the IFBB isn't the enforcer it is now people will take there sponsorship dollar wherever they want and not be held to ransom.

Some serious changes need to be made, but while the IFBB is forcing people to comply with it demands there is no hope, for the athletes and the advertisers.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #238 on: March 09, 2007, 03:20:33 AM »
HEY THATS ALL GOOD...I CAN LIE IN MY BED NO PROBLEM IF THATS WHAT THE IFBB TELLS ME TO DO......SO YOUR POINT IS WHAT AGAIN........OH AND WHEN I WAS TALKING TO STEVE AT THE AIRPORT HE WAS SAYING HE WOULD LOVE ME BACK AT MD......SO WHAT WAS YOUR POINT AGAIN I FORGOT :)

What happened to your law suit against the IFBB?

and if Steve Blechwomen wants you back , then why are you not back? does he have to answer to someone? or was he trying to keep the peace at the airport?

Please fill me in on your self importance again, I think I missed something.


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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #239 on: March 09, 2007, 03:27:02 AM »
I think the only reason that the IFBB is allowing Lee to comeback is to teach him a lesson.  You don't bite the hand that feeds you.  Also it should put some humility into this jag off.  (Won't take much he's not that big.) Maybe once Lee realizes that he's going to be finishing behind the new crop of BB's maybe he'll finally make the decision to leave BB and go off into the sunset to fulfill his real dream of racing cars and smacking women.  Welcome to the south!!!!

You never answered my Question LEE.

DO YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN BEAT JAY TODAY OR IN A CURRENT SHOW? 
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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #240 on: March 09, 2007, 03:49:34 AM »
I can appreciate everyone's opinion on this topic, especially Lee's. I originally requested to Lee that we keep this quiet, and off the boards for now....BUT...seems it found it's way here anyway.

That being said, I would like to clarify the IFBB's position on the matter:

After Lee has served the full term of his suspension, he will have the opportunity to APPLY for reinstatement for pro status in the IFBB. There is no guarantee that his application will be accepted, only that he will be allowed to submit, and all factors will be considered in the final decision.


in other words to simplify this,,
the ifbb "cant" go and treat you in special way infront of the public,,it doesnt look good for a professional high caliber organization as the  ifbb,,it would make it look like an amatuer mess if it chose to do it,,

never the less,, you know you are loved and home there for many years,,also one of the best competitors the organization had or has,,,soooo officially the ifbb as a professional organization has to put  it in "cold" language and strict terms to you,,while in reality you know for a fact that the organization will let you back in,,it just wants to keep the "no special treatment"  equal approach twards everyone,,and its pride! it is bigger than one competitor you know.. no matter who it is.

get back to ifbb,,thats where you belong,,you know it too,,it gave you good life and made you a house hold name not only in usa and australia but the whole world when it comes to bodybuilding and fitness,,

i think the pdi competitors should come from within and raised to stardome from within,,it will give the pdi a better chance as organization as long as they keep strict standards of judging! and dont give every joe a pro card,,also monney money money thats the most important thing in the long term,,solid financial foundation.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #241 on: March 09, 2007, 04:14:43 AM »
Interesting...


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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #242 on: March 09, 2007, 04:31:00 AM »
Bodybuilders are stupid, promoters are stupid, supplement companies are stupid and the IFBB is involved in anti-competitive practices.  Lee Priest got it, Onlyme gets it, anybody who understands basic economics would get it.  Competition between professional organisations would benefit everyone in the industry apart from the incumbent monopoly, actually you wouldn't even need competition as long as there was a credible threat of competition, which there isn't due to the IFBBs current practises...

Competition between magazines and supplement companies benefits the athlete but two organisations competing to get promoters to use their name on a show, promoters having to compete with each other to get the best athletes for their shows, organisations/promoters competing to sign up the best bodybuilders to exclusive deals...yeah the athletes aren't going to benefit from that ::)

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #243 on: March 09, 2007, 04:45:36 AM »
If the PDI tanks what is Rhino going to do with his pro card?
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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #244 on: March 09, 2007, 04:56:37 AM »
I think the only reason that the IFBB is allowing Lee to comeback is to teach him a lesson.  You don't bite the hand that feeds you.  Also it should put some humility into this jag off.  (Won't take much he's not that big.) Maybe once Lee realizes that he's going to be finishing behind the new crop of BB's maybe he'll finally make the decision to leave BB and go off into the sunset to fulfill his real dream of racing cars and smacking women.  Welcome to the south!!!!

You never answered my Question LEE.

DO YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN BEAT JAY TODAY OR IN A CURRENT SHOW? 

Lee could beat Jay ONLY if Jay was about a foot shorter....and even then he would lose.

Lee...go back to PDI - IFBB doesn't need you.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #245 on: March 09, 2007, 05:05:42 AM »
kobe raped a bitch and still is the #1 selling jersey.
he did..........i think he got raped.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #246 on: March 09, 2007, 06:51:49 AM »
What happened to your law suit against the IFBB?

and if Steve Blechwomen wants you back , then why are you not back? does he have to answer to someone? or was he trying to keep the peace at the airport?

Please fill me in on your self importance again, I think I missed something.



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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #247 on: March 09, 2007, 08:05:48 AM »
The points Keith make are very true.

I thought when Jay became Mr O his objective was to get more people following BB? ..... all I see is him sitting in BB stores preaching to BB's in the USA, I don't like Ronnie, but he at least took the time to travel the world for more than 1 week to spread the message.

This is Jays dream, he can retire after this year and proberly will if he loses the O, he has played all of the community as fools.

The IFBB is the powerhouse at the moment and will blackball anyone or company that doesn't support ONLY it, but people don't forget and when the time comes that the IFBB isn't the enforcer it is now people will take there sponsorship dollar wherever they want and not be held to ransom.

Some serious changes need to be made, but while the IFBB is forcing people to comply with it demands there is no hope, for the athletes and the advertisers.

How do you know what Jay is doing?  For your information is about to do a tour in France at the end of the month for a week and a month after that he's going to FIBO in Germany, as far as I know that's considered EUROPE!
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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #248 on: March 09, 2007, 08:10:32 AM »
all lee needs to do is shut the fuck up and get back to the IFBB. or retire.

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Re: Lee Priest's true confessions on returning to the IFBB
« Reply #249 on: March 09, 2007, 09:15:09 AM »
Great to see that the PDI continues to thrive. Their star athlete wants to go back to the IFBB because that's what his fans want.
But fear not folks there is a rumor that another is preparing to take the leap to obscurity, but his identity must remain a secret for now.

Promoters and sponsors continue in stealth mode releasing as little information as possible relying on T-Shirt Delivery Master Keith to let the  fans know whats happening.

So now we have to wait till November to find out what dates the September shows were held. Gotta love the PDI marketing department.