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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #350 on: November 20, 2008, 08:34:00 AM »
I've dieted off of a typical "clean" low carb diet and I've followed a simple "Adonis Principles/Weight Watchers" type diet and let me tell you this, reducing calories to a rediculously low level to get shredded is MUCH harder to do on the latter. I lost 40 pounds on a low carb diet in just shy of 4 months following a VERY low calorie method five out of seven days. I'm talking 1500-1800 calories maximum for those 5 days, increasing to 2500 or so on weekends. The main thing is that my body copes very well off of very little carbs, no craving, no hunger, no muscle loss. As soon as I went back to a more rounded diet, including so-called "junk food", which would be available to you on a "True Adonis" type diet, my hunger and cravings shot up. I stuggled to maintain at 2500-3000 calories with this method, due to the newly found sugar-cravings due to insulin release etc. Yes, a calorie is a calorie, you will end up looking pretty similar regardless of diet as long as nutritional bases are covered BUT how those macronutrients effect an INDIVIDUAL is entirely dependant on GENETICS. Adonis argues that people cannot be "carb sensitive" and such, but explain how people manage to eat themselves into diabetes; even in a calorie defecit? Seems to me like you can't ignore an individuals needs and predispostions.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #351 on: November 20, 2008, 08:35:11 AM »
And yet i can't see why the hell you would give Adonis credit for what YOU achieved.

When Adonis read your "Adonis Principles", he must have felt like Hitler when he met Ernst Röhm.

"Hey, here is this naive guy with almost the same interests and a nice private army of thugs. I might use him to get the power and then I serve his stupid ass."

I don't care about who gets credit. Nothing is original. What difference does it make how a method is called? If he has said something different in the past, I don't support that. I am only talking about the rules as defined in the thread I started.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #352 on: November 20, 2008, 08:36:07 AM »
7 pages of adonis, all in all you guys probably written 100's of pages about him through the years

he owns your minds.

 I think the AXA guy is the interesting one.  Guy is hilarious.  You are funny as well though 30k posts and that physique of yours makes for a good laugh.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #353 on: November 20, 2008, 08:36:24 AM »
lol he posted about 1000 posts the day the photos were revealed. All defending his shit body.




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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #354 on: November 20, 2008, 08:37:34 AM »
All i know is that when I did the Mr. getbig II, i starved myself, had bad lighting, and did a carb-up thing and sodium load that made me look like shit, forever etched into the internet...but nowadays my constant balanced diet, strength training, and good sleep makes me look better, more muscular than ever. I eat bagels twice a week, egg, saugsage with cheese on a roll in the morning (four to five days a week )and the rest of the day sensible stuff like chicken, brown rice, fish (basic BB diet), I have a protein shake once a day. I probably eat 5 times a day, and on the weekend I eat out cause well thats life, enjoy it.

The nerve of this tiniest of tits to say that he ownes me , MemberX i felt sorry for you at first but you continue to be delusional, hahah your the official getbig whipping boy, finished 8 out of 8 and recieved no money (i got $100 bucks), you deserve to be pasted by the masses.... First you look like the scarecrow, now you might as well sing his song...."if i only have a brain" hahahah

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #355 on: November 20, 2008, 08:38:44 AM »
lol he posted about 1000 posts the day the photos were revealed. All defending his shit body.




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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #356 on: November 20, 2008, 08:40:19 AM »
7 pages, no PM's posted with any credible evidence and the only one getting owned is AXA as usual.
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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #357 on: November 20, 2008, 08:43:09 AM »
SO if this is true a]adonis competed in gb1 was using per say and lost to a pro natural and cried about it,even if he was cycling/or just off and lost .b]was doing cycle in pics he posted recently but did not want to compete gb3 cause he lost some of that condiition or size due to coming off again .those pics were couple months old and maybe he lost some of it and didn't want to do gb3.c]maybe he's telling the truth about everything.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #358 on: November 20, 2008, 08:46:29 AM »
This thread needs to be deleted if no evidences is posted, it is just slandering The True Adonis. 

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #359 on: November 20, 2008, 08:47:56 AM »
you got fuckin jacked jj!!  Nicely done man!
your not so small yourself 'x' ...
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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #360 on: November 20, 2008, 08:52:02 AM »
My sidechest crushes all of you, post a picture beating me, you must be natural,anybody? keith?
that's what I thought



You almost got it right.  You meant to say "My chest is so small and I am so skinny, that if I benched pressed 135 it would CRUSH my chest"  Hope this helps.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #361 on: November 20, 2008, 08:53:48 AM »
You almost got it right.  You meant to say "My chest is so small and I am so skinny, that if I benched pressed 135 it would CRUSH my chest"  Hope this helps.
I wonder does he bench 585 for 1/4 inch reps in the smith?

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #362 on: November 20, 2008, 08:56:42 AM »

I have PMs proving the same thing.

I also have PMs implicating him and Leafy_bug who was supposed to come out with his usage to prove that "it's impossible to compete without drugs"....



I have mixed feelings about Adonis. My urge is to not like him, and if these allegations are true then he's a fucking insecure little weasel. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, I mean he would describe himself as a "bodybuilder", so naturally he is prone too lies and insecurity.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #363 on: November 20, 2008, 09:08:44 AM »
guys... yer just tilting at windmills here.
Quoted for truth.

I detect a jealous rage.  I find it hilarious.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #364 on: November 20, 2008, 09:11:17 AM »
7 pages, no PM's posted with any credible evidence and the only one getting owned is AXA as usual.
Exactly.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #365 on: November 20, 2008, 09:17:38 AM »
No did I say you lying.  I don't read every post on here so I have no idea what you said.  Of course caloric restriction is effective.  Are the one who also said a calorie is a calorie.  Do you eat twinkies, cupcakes and pies for your food intake.  Or do you eat chicken, turkey, fish and lean meats.  And I'll beat you to it, I eat all of that just lower doses now.  He is full of shit and if you don't see that then that is your problem not mine.


He may have said a calorie is a calorie very long ago when he was finding his way, but he has subsequently amended his proscription to "a calorie is a calorie so long as one gets the RDA of all nutrients."  Granted, this is not a free for all but with a 2500 calorie mainteneance level, this still leaves you with substantially more freedom in your diet than a conventional bodybuilding diet and it is just as effective.

I believe that TA admitted to being wrong about a calorie is a calorie (plain and simple) but if he didn't I'm sure that he would if you put it to him in a clear manner. 

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #366 on: November 20, 2008, 09:20:29 AM »
He may have said a calorie is a calorie very long ago when he was finding his way, but he has subsequently amended his proscription to "a calorie is a calorie so long as one gets the RDA of all nutrients."  Granted, this is not a free for all but with a 2500 calorie mainteneance level, this still leaves you with substantially more freedom in your diet than a conventional bodybuilding diet and it is just as effective.

I believe that TA admitted to being wrong about a calorie is a calorie (plain and simple) but if he didn't I'm sure that he would if you put it to him in a clear manner. 

TA, is a calorie a calorie, plain and simple?  :D

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #367 on: November 20, 2008, 09:22:19 AM »
He may have said a calorie is a calorie very long ago when he was finding his way, but he has subsequently amended his proscription to "a calorie is a calorie so long as one gets the RDA of all nutrients."  Granted, this is not a free for all but with a 2500 calorie mainteneance level, this still leaves you with substantially more freedom in your diet than a conventional bodybuilding diet and it is just as effective.

I believe that TA admitted to being wrong about a calorie is a calorie (plain and simple) but if he didn't I'm sure that he would if you put it to him in a clear manner. 
I have ALWAYS and STILL MANTAIN that a Calorie is a calorie but a Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient.  1 calorie of paper clips=1 calorie of carbs=1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of diamond and so on....

Protein is not a Carbohydrate, Carbohydrates are not a Fat, Fats are not a Protein and so on....

I have said this since day one.

The poor comprehension skills of most members on here is astounding.  :o

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #368 on: November 20, 2008, 09:23:07 AM »
TA, is a calorie a calorie, plain and simple?  :D
I have ALWAYS and STILL MANTAIN that a Calorie is a calorie but a Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient.  1 calorie of paper clips=1 calorie of carbs=1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of diamond and so on....

Protein is not a Carbohydrate, Carbohydrates are not a Fat, Fats are not a Protein and so on....

I have said this since day one.

The poor comprehension skills of most members on here is astounding.  Shocked

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #369 on: November 20, 2008, 09:25:41 AM »
Do you currently recommend protein consumption in excess of the RDA? 

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #370 on: November 20, 2008, 09:26:56 AM »
I have ALWAYS and STILL MANTAIN that a Calorie is a calorie but a Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient.  1 calorie of paper clips=1 calorie of carbs=1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of diamond and so on....

Protein is not a Carbohydrate, Carbohydrates are not a Fat, Fats are not a Protein and so on....

I have said this since day one.

The poor comprehension skills of most members on here is astounding.  Shocked

pure genius.





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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #371 on: November 20, 2008, 09:31:34 AM »
Do you currently recommend protein consumption in excess of the RDA? 
There is no excess range for Protein according to the RDA/RDI.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #372 on: November 20, 2008, 09:34:49 AM »
Quoted for truth.

I detect a jealous rage.  I find it hilarious.

 lol at being jealous of you. Too funny.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #373 on: November 20, 2008, 09:35:56 AM »
I have ALWAYS and STILL MANTAIN that a Calorie is a calorie but a Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient.  1 calorie of paper clips=1 calorie of carbs=1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of diamond and so on....

Protein is not a Carbohydrate, Carbohydrates are not a Fat, Fats are not a Protein and so on....

I have said this since day one.

The poor comprehension skills of most members on here is astounding.  Shocked

LOL!!!

More of your Bullshit.

You clearly stated that macronutrients don't matter. The only "rule" was a calorie is a calorie.

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Re: Hahahaha Apenis is so owned!!!!!
« Reply #374 on: November 20, 2008, 09:37:00 AM »
Donkey Kong once again trolling the Adonis thread w/ his anger. Just walk away for once. You'll never win.