ICE CREAMS and calorie is a calorie and Haha Apenis - all three threads merged.

[The True Adonis]

yea id say about every 5th post made he's getting a decent little spanking from the other members of this board.

Sorry, I don`t view it that way.

[Fatpanda]

Still hovering around 150lbs, unfortunally body composition getting worse,  can't train at all right now, injury, flu.
Do you think I lied about my diet or that I used drugs? I'm a tiny guy who managed to get decently lean with an unconventional diet approach.

you have clearly taken some sort of anabolic or fat loss agent like clen or eca - especially if you are claiming you got ripped like you are on ice cream and burgers.

[wavelength]

I re-read that post:

Every time you answer my initial question you elegantly sidestep a paramount issue

I NEVER CARED IF YOU ATE 1 OR 8 MEALS . i DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT IT. I DON'T CARE IF YOU ATE AT A RESTAURANT OR MOM'S HOUSE OR COOKED IT YOURSELF.

I ONLY FUCKING ASKED A  SIMPLE QUESTION : DID YOU GET RIPPED EATING JUNK ?

ANSWER : FUCK NO !!!

Your 1 restaurant meal was clean as in CLEAN ...not much saturated fat, no sugars, not many complex carbs

How do you want to know what I ate at the restaurants? I e.g. go to the chinese buffet a lot. I eat rice, fried noodles, chicken curry, chicken wings, sushi, cooked and fried veggies, fruit, etc. Whatever I feel like on that particular day.

you can't do what hundreds of world class bodybuilders failed to do throughout the years : get ripped on JUNK ..

you are insulting my intelligence and everyone else's

You constantly sidestepped my junk question...constantly

'I ate only 1 meal and ashake,I ate at a restaurant, I lost a lot of weight, I am small. I never used AAS "

Not the FUCKING ISSUE. Did you get ripped on fucking Mickey D's and ben and jerry's ?

NO ! WHY ? CAUSE IT'S fucking impossible ..

No I didn't get ripped on the exact diet layed out by Disgusted and I never claimed to do that. I did eat at burger king or Mc Donalds once or twice a week on avarage. I wouldn't call myself "ripped" either in the last pic, I was at about 8%, I think.

[Fatpanda]

regarding sugar, there is no scientific basis for claiming that sugar is unhealthy.

regarding fat loss - it makes no difference how much sugar you eat as long as you are in calorie deficit, so yes you can loss fat while eating sugar.

Intake of sugars in relation to fatness and micronutrient adequacy.Bolton-Smith C.
Cardiovascular Epidemiology Unit, University of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital and Medical School, UK.

Dietary sugars have frequently been linked with excess body weight and poor quality diets. A review of the recent research in this area reveals no basis for a causative association between sugar intake and obesity. Rather, a diet which contains a high percentage of energy from carbohydrate (starch and sugars) may assist in weight loss if the proportion of energy from fat is low. Nutrient inadequacies tend to occur in susceptible groups (generally women and children) who have a low total energy intake, and this is compounded by a relatively high contribution from sugars. For general populations with an adequate caloric intake nutrient adequacy can be achieved across a wide range of dietary sugar (4-20% energy). In this respect, intakes at either extreme are sub-optimal.

[Fatpanda]

and another:

Sugar and body weight regulation.Hill JO, Prentice AM.
University of Colorado Health Science Center, Denver, USA.

The need to understand reasons for the high prevalence of obesity in developed countries has led to examination of dietary habits that may contribute to obesity. We consider whether consumption of high amounts of sugars presents a public health problem by contributing to the development of obesity. Metabolic studies show that diets high in fat are more likely to result in body fat accumulation than are diets high in carbohydrate. There is no indication that simple sugars differ from complex sugars in this regard. Epidemiologic data show a clear inverse relation between intake of sugar and fat. Further, although high intake of dietary fat is positively associated with indexes of obesity, high intake of sugar is negatively associated with indexes of obesity. There is ample reason to associate high-fat diets with obesity but, at present, no reason to associate high-sugar diets with obesity.

[The True Adonis]

There is no natural selection retard ... races were created and subsequently p[laced in certain locations, and their diets were adapted to what the landscape had to offer

This is the reason the original lyran empire ( human ) when it split it evolved in so many diff races

The human race has to evolve and adapt to it's environment constantly otherwise it becomes stagnant and dies ...

the reptilian race remains unchanged throughout the aeons ...

You just lost all credibility with me. You believe in Creationism and that all races were magically plopped down in strategic locations?

This is self admonition that you know nothing about the Natural world, the migration of various Homo genus species from Africa, the relationship of them to the surrounding environment as well as the pressures they were selected against.

You are in your 30s which means you have gone this long not knowing ANYTHING about the Natural World.  I am shocked.  

[wavelength]

you have clearly taken some sort of anabolic or fat loss agent like clen or eca - especially if you are claiming you got ripped like you are on ice cream and burgers.

Sorry I never claimed that. Ice cream and burgers were included in the diet, but the diet did not exclusively consist of it, of course. I can guarantee you again that I didn't take ANY supplement except for whey. I have never in my life used Clen or E. I have used supps containing C or A in the past but not in this diet. I did consume some C via drinking coke zero though.

[wavelength]

Panda, seriously, you must be busting my balls?

[The True Adonis]

I would really be interested in seeing such a post of TA. If it exists, I don't agree with that of course.

Yah me too.   He probably didn`t realize I was being sarcastic or facetious at times.


Sometimes my brand of humor gets lost on the simple minded or ones who aren`t reading carefully.

[Fatpanda]

Panda, seriously, you must be busting my balls?

 

[The True Adonis]

Yah me too.   He probably didn`t realize I was being sarcastic or facetious at times.


Sometimes my brand of humor gets lost on the simple minded or ones who aren`t reading carefully.

Addition:

Or ones that wish to create something from nothing by taking something out of context.  One thing I urge everyone to do is to read, concentrate and comprehend within the context.  Ask questions if necessary and always have a verifiable source!

[wavelength]

Addition:

Or ones that wish to create something from nothing by taking something out of context.  One thing I urge everyone to do is to read, concentrate and comprehend within the context.  Ask questions if necessary and always have a verifiable source!

So your quote about the beer was a joke?

[danielson]

OK, since this is the second pm that I have gotten since last night and both from members that I regularly converse with I decided to post this, but I have been sworn to secrecy so no names. 

Anyway, it seems our beloved Apenis not only eats clean, but he juices too. He is telling the truth about eating crap till he goes up to a certain weight which is about 10 pounds over what he calls his ideal weight then when he diets back down it's chicken, buffalo, egg whites, oatmeal, rice ect.  He also has been juicing for quite some time from what I was told which I suspected anyway so no big surprise. What a clown. This guy is more than a couple sandwiches shy of a picnic. Going to such great lengths to perpetuate a lie.  Guess the truth has finally bitten you in your scrawny little ass. hahahahahaaaaaaa 

Why are you so jealous of TA lately? You seem a little obsessed with what he eats etc. 

[BroadStreetBruiser]

Disgusted has embarassed himself. He should stop letting adam own his mind.

[The True Adonis]

So your quote about the beer was a joke?

I don`t see how anyone would misconstrue it otherwise.  For one, I thought Whateva was being facetious himself as he is not a beer drinker at all. So I answered back rather facetiously and sarcastically.

So I said to him, sure drink up!  I guess Hedgehog took the jest as truth and that has soured his opinion ever since.

[DK II]

So your quote about the beer was a joke?

Yeah sure.

If it fits him, things that were jokes become truth and truth becomes joke.

TA windet sich wie ein glitschiger Aal, damit er alles so drehen kann, wie es ihm passt. Das war schon immer so.

[danielson]

Disgusted has embarassed himself. He should stop letting adam own his mind.

It is just amazing that he gives a shit what another man puts in his body. TA isn't selling anything, if he wants to post about a McDonalds diet, who cares? This Jim guy is a fkn weirdo.

[Stu]

It is just amazing that he gives a shit what another man puts in his body. TA isn't selling anything, if he wants to post about a McDonalds diet, who cares? This Jim guy is a fkn weirdo.

I believe he sells shoes on ebay.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

It is just amazing that he gives a shit what another man puts in his body. TA isn't selling anything, if he wants to post about a McDonalds diet, who cares? This Jim guy is a fkn weirdo.

What bothers me is he has those blue stars here which to me denotes a certain level of respectablity in regards to this board. To just give in to melting down against a guy who obviously is just winding people up is silly. I feel like he's my little brother who I call "homo" enough times to fly into a blind rage. MAN UP!

[Cleanest Natural]

If this was directed at me, I disagree. I think Sev holds a lot of merit. If he thinks I'm lying about anything, he's off, though. He even suggests that I could be a gimmick of Adonis, which can easily be refuted.

meltdown !

Just messing w/ you bro ...

My problem is that you posted your shots a while back and said that the Adonis principles work .

When in fact you lost weight and got ripped like any of us : STRICT DIETING.

You did not eat junk to get where you got.

Why would you endorse this liar is beyond me.

I get infuriated because everyone with a gram of knowledge can see Adonis is full of shit.

[wavelength]

meltdown !

Just messing w/ you bro ...

My problem is that you posted your shots a while back and said that the Adonis principles work .

When in fact you lost weight and got ripped like any of us : STRICT DIETING.

You did not eat junk to get where you got.

Why would you endorse this liar is beyond me.

I get infuriated because everyone with a gram of knowledge can see Adonis is full of shit.

Sev, seriously, I did not tell one lie since I have registered on this board. I would never deliberately tell lies to mislead people. If you knew me better, you would agree.

[The True Adonis]

What bothers me is he has those blue stars here which to me denotes a certain level of respectablity in regards to this board. To just give in to melting down against a guy who obviously is just winding people up is silly. I feel like he's my little brother who I call "homo" enough times to fly into a blind rage. MAN UP!

One thing that I have to disagree with here is when you say that I am just winding people up. I`m really not.  I eat what the way I say I do.

I am actually trying to debate these people and show them with fact and evidence alternate ways as well as the errors and myths they have relied on for so long.  One thing I cannot stand is the false demonization of foods.

I felt the same way with those who were smearing Barack Obama.  False Characterizations based on a pack of lies and poorly out of context misinformation.

It is ignorance I am railing against, there are those who just choose to hold it up as a shield while wielding a sword of hate hoping to stab a truth to promote a lie or a myth.

[Meso_z]

The "flu apenis" is a complete joke.

[The Ugly]

there are those who just choose to hold it up as a shield while wielding a sword of hate hoping to stab a truth to promote a lie or a myth.

Keats?

[BroadStreetBruiser]

One thing that I have to disagree with here is when you say that I am just winding people up. I`m really not.  I eat what the way I say I do.

I am actually trying to debate these people and show them with fact and evidence alternate ways as well as the errors and myths they have relied on for so long.  One thing I cannot stand is the false demonization of foods.

I felt the same way with those who were smearing Barack Obama.  False Characterizations based on a pack of lies and poorly out of context misinformation.

It is ignorance I am railing against, there are those who just choose to hold it up as a shield while wielding a sword of hate hoping to stab a truth to promote a lie or a myth.

I didn't mean your methodology in regards to diet. I meant more your manner of debate w/ members and how you present your information.