Author Topic: are bodybuilders athletes? (Read 20914 times)

Option D · « **Reply #75 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:14:08 AM »

Quote from: Devon97 on March 21, 2007, 10:09:34 AM

Well yes to get to a show it would require some mental strength and physical strength, HOWEVER the COMPETITION its-self DOES NOT require strength! And it is the COMPETITION that DEFINES an athlete not what they do in preparation for the COMPETITION.

I think the athlete is defined by what it takes to compete

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #76 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:15:01 AM »

Quote from: Chick on March 21, 2007, 10:04:20 AM

I'm not sure you realize how stupid that statement was.....

Here's a newsflash for you...there are different types of athletes, and sports forthat matter. The chip on your shoulder is a mile wide, bro....you didn't have what it took, face the reality that you tried and failed...no reason to be bitter to everyone else that did.

Dude, it's not a chip, I can appreciate both bodybuilding and the skill of being an athlete, since I've been a competitive bodybuilder and I do train athletes, there is no comparison in the training regimen between athletes and bodybuilders. I use the analogy, that bodybuilders (pro or high level competitors) cannot make it through a lets say a two day combine, but it's pretty safe to say that an athlete can become a bodybuilder (competitive).

UK Gold · « **Reply #77 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:15:29 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on March 21, 2007, 10:05:38 AM

........meaning it took you something like 15 years to turn pro!

What a bitter old man. Reduced to bashing bodybuilders over the internet and lying about his lifts. Pathetic.

Quote from: Kegdrainer on March 21, 2007, 10:08:17 AM

I have laid off the keg. Havent had a drink since jan 1st this year. Thanks for the advice bob.

And for the second time, no im not competing. I would not pass the NGA's test for banned substances due to some recreational ( non bodybuilding related ) drug use about 5-6 years ago.

I will be at the show at the request of the promoter... If you dont feel like coming to buffalo you can show up in Rochester 2 weeks later for the Natural Northeast.

I'll be there too.

What drugs are in your body for six years? Kegdrainer, if you EVER get a six pack i will asassinate Chick then jump off a bridge.

Devon97 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:16:13 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on March 21, 2007, 10:14:08 AM

I think the athlete is defined by what it takes to compete

Ok well WEBSTERS defines it differently,

Main Entry: ath·lete
Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina

But you are welcome to your OWN PERSONAL opinion.

210 and growing · « **Reply #79 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:17:29 AM »

Quote from: UK Gold on March 21, 2007, 10:15:29 AM

What a bitter old man. Reduced to bashing bodybuilders over the internet and lying about his lifts. Pathetic.What drugs are in your body for six years? Kegdrainer, if you EVER get a six pack i will asassinate Chick then jump off a bridge.

HAHAHA - he smoked a joint 6 yrs ago and thinks its still in his system

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #80 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:18:18 AM »

Quote from: UK Gold on March 21, 2007, 10:15:29 AM

What a bitter old man. Reduced to bashing bodybuilders over the internet and lying about his lifts.

Look at the posts jackass, he started it!

Kegdrainer · « **Reply #81 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:18:35 AM »

Quote from: Devon97 on March 21, 2007, 10:09:34 AM

Well yes to get to a show it would require some mental strength and physical strength, HOWEVER the COMPETITION its-self DOES NOT require strength! And it is the COMPETITION that DEFINES an athlete not what they do in preparation for the COMPETITION.

i disagree. On the stage, under the hot lights, standing in a pose requires strength. it also requires some mental stamina. I've seen people pass out on stage, and backstage from being so depleted.

Chick · « **Reply #82 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:19:32 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on March 21, 2007, 10:15:01 AM

Dude, it's not a chip, I can appreciate both bodybuilding and the skill of being an athlete, since I've been a competitive bodybuilder and I do train athletes, there is no comparison in the training regimen between athletes and bodybuilders. I use the analogy, that bodybuilders (pro or high level competitors) cannot make it through a lets say a two day combine, but it's pretty safe to say that an athlete can become a bodybuilder (competitive).

Holy shit bro...stop while you're ahead, you making a complete fool of yourself....

Pro bbers don't TRAIN for running, or combines, any more than a NFL football player trains to go on a pro stage....they're TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS.

Pro bbers arent built for speed, or throwing a baseball, or skating....you know why.....?? Because we AREN'T runners, or baseball players, or skaters....were bodybuilders.

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #83 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:19:50 AM »

Quote from: Kegdrainer on March 21, 2007, 10:18:35 AM

I've seen people pass out on stage, and backstage from being so depleted.

We've also seen people die from the same thing!

Devon97 · « **Reply #84 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:20:52 AM »

Quote from: Kegdrainer on March 21, 2007, 10:18:35 AM

i disagree. On the stage, under the hot lights, standing in a pose requires strength. it also requires some mental stamina. I've seen people pass out on stage, and backstage from being so depleted.

Ok, fair enought but the bodybuilder is NOT being GRADED or TESTED on his Stamina or strength. ONLY on APPEARANCE!

pumpher · « **Reply #85 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:21:30 AM »

"Are bodybuilders athletes"?

It depends on your definition of "athlete."

If you use Webster's definition, Devon97 makes very strong arguments.

You can easily find other definitions that would include bodybuilders in the term "athlete"

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #86 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:21:38 AM »

Quote from: Devon97 on March 21, 2007, 10:20:52 AM

Ok, fair enought but the bodybuilder is NOT being GRADED or TESTED on his Stamina or strength. ONLY on APPEARANCE!

I agree with that!

Kegdrainer · « **Reply #87 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:21:44 AM »

Quote from: 210 and growing on March 21, 2007, 10:17:29 AM

HAHAHA - he smoked a joint 6 yrs ago and thinks its still in his system

NGA uses a polygraph, testing 7 year history of substance usage.

Devon97 · « **Reply #88 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:21:57 AM »

Quote from: Chick on March 21, 2007, 10:19:32 AM

Holy shit bro...stop while you're ahead, you making a complete fool of yourself....

Pro bbers don't TRAIN for running, or combines, any more than a NFL football player trains to go on a pro stage....they're TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS.

Pro bbers arent built for speed, or throwing a baseball, or skating....you know why.....?? Because we AREN'T runners, or baseball players, or skaters....were bodybuilders.

True but your still not an athlete.

Kegdrainer · « **Reply #89 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:22:39 AM »

and weed is not a banned substance

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #90 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:23:51 AM »

Quote from: Chick on March 21, 2007, 10:19:32 AM

Holy shit bro...stop while you're ahead, you making a complete fool of yourself....

Pro bbers don't TRAIN for running, or combines, any more than a NFL football player trains to go on a pro stage....they're TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS.

Pro bbers arent built for speed, or throwing a baseball, or skating....you know why.....?? Because we AREN'T runners, or baseball players, or skaters....were bodybuilders.

So how can a person (pro) be considered an "athlete" if he doesn't possess the skill of an athlete, sorry Bob, but there isn't much skill involved in bodybuilding!

Devon97 · « **Reply #91 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:24:37 AM »

Quote from: pumpher on March 21, 2007, 10:21:30 AM

"Are bodybuilders athletes"?

It depends on your definition of "athlete."

If you use Webster's definition, Devon97 makes very strong arguments.

You can easily find other definitions that would include bodybuilders in the term "athlete"

Very True,but thankfully we have Websters to refer to.

Also according to Webster: a GOlfer , Bowler etc would NOT be considered an athlete because those sports dont require Physical strength, stamina or agility. SKILL , YES but skill is NOT listed in the Webster Definition.

Actually I take that back, a golfer must have a strong swing and bowler must have a srong arm to roll the ball.

Tamer Razor · « **Reply #92 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:34:39 AM »

Quote from: Devon97 on March 21, 2007, 10:09:34 AM

Well yes to get to a show it would require some mental strength and physical strength, HOWEVER the COMPETITION its-self DOES NOT require strength! And it is the COMPETITION that DEFINES an athlete not what they do in preparation for the COMPETITION.

Great seems we getting some where. Ok I do agree with you that during the competion itself does not require strength. But again Bobybuilder are judge by the amount of muscle mass/Density/shape that they have. What is a direct correlation with exercise and strength. Please ANYONE ANSWER THIS IF BODYBUILDING IS A BEATY CONTEST WHO CAN A BODYBUILDER MAKE SUCH A DRAMATIC CHANGES ON HIS PLACING YEAR AFTER YEAR...HAS HE GOT MORE BEATIFUL...please let use common sense

Kegdrainer · « **Reply #93 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:35:52 AM »

Quote from: UK Gold on March 21, 2007, 10:15:29 AM

What a bitter old man. Reduced to bashing bodybuilders over the internet and lying about his lifts. Pathetic.What drugs are in your body for six years? Kegdrainer, if you EVER get a six pack i will asassinate Chick then jump off a bridge.

In writing, this is a legally binding contract. And from the looks of it, awfully illegal.

I better stay fat enough to keep bob alive and keep you out of jail.

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #94 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:37:12 AM »

Behold............the "Athlete"!!

Kegdrainer · « **Reply #95 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:51:47 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on March 21, 2007, 10:37:12 AM

Behold............the "Athlete"!!

he's more of a science project than an athlete

The_Punisher · « **Reply #96 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:52:22 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on March 21, 2007, 10:37:12 AM

Behold............the "Athlete"!!

lol...I was waiting for this pic

Tamer Razor · « **Reply #97 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:52:50 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on March 21, 2007, 10:37:12 AM

Behold............the "Athlete"!!

Don't be a frustraded because you were a failed bodybuilding is other things you can do like coach other bodybuilders.

What is your point Pro NFL player also use oxygen....DO YOU WORK OUT ? DO YOU WATCH FOOTBALL? WHAT IS YOU POINT PLEASE?

The_Punisher · « **Reply #98 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:54:25 AM »

we can at least consider natural bodybuilding

is there anything healthy in Pro bodybuilding at all? because I'm tired of hearing the famous phrase, ALL DRUGS

Tamer Razor · « **Reply #99 on:** March 21, 2007, 11:01:01 AM »

Quote from: The_Punisher on March 21, 2007, 10:54:25 AM

we can at least consider natural bodybuilding

is there anything healthy in Pro bodybuilding at all? because I'm tired of hearing the famous phrase, ALL DRUGS

Are you trying to tell us the NFL,MLB,Boxers,Cyclists.....etc don't use roids!