how about?

[delta9mda]

1000mg test
1000mg eq

@ 12-16 weeks?

[wes mantooth]

more is not always better.

lot of eq IMO. 600 should be fine....

whats your cycle history.....and weight at the beginning of this one you propose?

[Luv2Hurt]

more is not always better.

lot of eq IMO. 600 should be fine....

whats your cycle history.....and weight at the beginning of this one you propose?

Agree

1000mg test and 600mg EQ is plenty even for the advanced trainer.  Damn 750 test alone is a great cycle.

[Rimbaud]

I agree with Wes & Luv. Cut the EQ to 500-600mg a week.

[udeluz]

We cant tell you "how about" without knowing your stats


If your a newbie the 500/300

2-3rd cycle maybe 750/450

But then again maybe your a Pro

[Rimbaud]

We cant tell you "how about" without knowing your stats


If your a newbie the 500/300

2-3rd cycle maybe 750/450

But then again maybe your a Pro

Good points as well.

[trab]

Another BIG prob is a lot of stuff is underdosed, or not even what it's labeled as.
ALL the Sustanon haters may very likely have been using Tprop+Cyp or Enan mix.Not true 4 ester Sus.
If your positive of what you got, is way different from knowing it simply has some kind of effect.
Guy might error on the high side dose then, or throw in a extra 200 deca  up front on a lot of cycles guys are contemplating. All the elaborate planing dont matter if each vial is just all cyp.

[delta9mda]

#1. all of my stuff will be over dosed.
#2. this will be my third cycle ever.

im 190-195 at 5-8" less than 15% bf. abs are there, but im not ripped as adonis

finished up a 16 week test c cycle at the end of march.
ran 750mg and then bumped it to 1000mg later in the cycle.
im on my pct program now and still getting stronger each time in the gym. love it.

there is a reason i asked the question, some here know a thing or 2. i was thinking around 600mg eq and then riding it out from there to see what up.

will probably run a-dex thru cycle.

ive hit the test and its time to go for it with 2 compounds. im not doing deca or orals either.

will be consuming 300g protein per day and as much carbs as needed so i dont go insane but that will be a moderately low number. i love sweet potatoes!

[udeluz]

Can I ask why you are against Deca?

[delta9mda]

dont want it. im open to ideas. let me have it.

[udeluz]

If you don't want it then there is no sense beating a dead horse, Use EQ

[trab]

Deca at 200-400 rarely cause probs. Even 200 makes for indestructable joints. It's magic IMO.
Greatest anti-inflamatory on Earth.(or acts like it @ least).

How long you off from the PCT? Clomid hangs around (long 1/2 life) awhile. Count true off time is all I'm saying. Be aware how long the different stuff lasts before its eliminated.

I like D'bol up front. OR Anapolon, Tprop too. Good hard punch at the start.

[delta9mda]

on the tail end of pct. its only been about 6 weeks since i finished cycle.

just finished reading up on deca and it seems to have alot of the same qualities as eq. i know it is not the same. either do not aromatize too much. the only neg to deca is ive read it may have some progesterone/ progestin(?)  affinity. correct me if im wrong.

im still open for suggestions and advice. the pins are not loaded yet.

[b.c.]

Im with trab, deca is magic for the joints even at 200 mg. Throw in some dbol or anadrol to jump start your cycle as well.

[eliscominblue]

1000mg test
1000mg eq

@ 12-16 weeks?

600mg's of both for 20 weeks

[delta9mda]

600mg's of both for 20 weeks

i like your thinking

[Luv2Hurt]

600mg's of both for 20 weeks

I like the 20 weeks part also, but most of us on this board will recommend to run a lager dose of test than the anabolics, such as EQ, Deca, Tren.  This is in many cases to avoid some sides related to sexual function and desire (libido).  Pretty sure you will not die if you keep them the same and my thinking is as long as the test dose is supralogical and you control aromatase (estrogen) you will probally be fine.  But you for sure you cant go wrong if you use test as a wider base.

[trab]

In my experience, When Deca approaches becoming the predominate steroid, either by adding/building up too much deca, or at the point Nat Test downregulates, a guy is asking for sudden unexplained sexual performance issues.
 
Keeping around 2:1 (T:D)  and/or paying attn to about the 3wk into cycle point,
(Down Reg of Nat Testo time. NatTest level drop= Deca%+)  you will not have that problem.

It's possible to start into a fresh cycle w/ Deca only, and have good results and no libido issue to about the 3 week point. Just an example. Don't do that.

Also want to ditch the Deca about 2 weeks min prior to stopping Test IMO.
Deca can suddenly ruin what should be (was ) rockin' good romping if not aware.   

[wes mantooth]

go EQ!!!!!!!!

[Slintowin]

You dont need that much eq or test sav your coin and run something else...... Is this cutting, or bulking?

[delta9mda]

You dont need that much eq or test sav your coin and run something else...... Is this cutting, or bulking?

i dont really prescribe to "bulking" or "cutting". let me put it like this: im not competing so i see no need really to blow up and be smooth and watery and then lose a good percent of it to cut up. why cant you just make solid gains and keep a low(er) body fat at the same time?

now back to biz- how about if i throw in some primo tabs/ caps and what would the recommended dose be?

[Luv2Hurt]

i dont really prescribe to "bulking" or "cutting". let me put it like this: im not competing so i see no need really to blow up and be smooth and watery and then lose a good percent of it to cut up. why cant you just make solid gains and keep a low(er) body fat at the same time?

I like your thinking here.  And of course you can keep the BF down and make gains.  But to gain on gear you need enough calories, if in a calorie deficit the gear will help you by sparing muscle.