you are killing me all the ones who talking like his physiqe is horrible,,
he got good physiqe that could have been 20 times better if he had worked with someone and utilized hormones right,,
he doesnt have a pro genetics but i can take a guy like that and make him win as in WIN his class state show placing first or second overall,, qualifying for nationals and placing as in actually making 15 or so on the national stage,,worse than him made 14 and 13 and i wored with them!
he need more work on lower body,,and use the drugs diffrerently and using variation of ai/ae and more time,,as simple as that
his physiqe is not bad,,its just 2 dimentioned and for the 3 dimention you have to have specific products and habits that must be followed to the t. with those habits another 10-20lb of quality lean mass will come along and he will be just another guy standing on the national stage placing 16th