Maxadrol - how bad is it?

[jakecody]

$ weeks ego I bought a product called Maxadrol from a website. Its two main Ingredients are 2a 17a dimethyl 5 androst 3 one, and estra 4, 9 diehe.  I never had results like these in the 18 years I have been lifting.  I gained 12 pounds of hard muscle, lost fat and have plenty of energy.  In two weeks I am going to stop and go on PCT (Gaspari Novedex).  I have read that any Methyl based drug is toxic for the liver.  How bad is the combination in Maxadrol? Is there anything equivalent that is less toxic

[Princess L]

$ weeks ego I bought a product called Maxadrol from a website. Its two main Ingredients are 2a 17a dimethyl 5 androst 3 one, and estra 4, 9 diehe.  I never had results like these in the 18 years I have been lifting.  I gained 12 pounds of hard muscle, lost fat and have plenty of energy.  In two weeks I am going to stop and go on PCT (Gaspari Novedex).  I have read that any Methyl based drug is toxic for the liver.  How bad is the combination in Maxadrol? Is there anything equivalent that is less toxic

Date Registered:     July 24, 2007, 12:53:16 PM
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[S4910]

superdrol and tren- one is methalated one is non do you have any experience with ph cycle. Make sure you use pct at the end of your cycle it you will defiantly need it

[S4910]

Defiantly use livercare throughout any cycle

[jakecody]

This was my first ph cycle.  So far i a happy with results.  Lets see what happens after pct.  If an keep 7 out of 2 pounds gained I will be happy

[delta9mda]

This was my first ph cycle.  So far i a happy with results.  Lets see what happens after pct.  If an keep 7 out of 2 pounds gained I will be happy

stop calling them pro-hormones, they are steroids.

[Arnold jr]

stop calling them pro-hormones, they are steroids.

No, not steroids per say, this would fall under the category of 'pro-steroids"...basically just another name for fancier pro-hormones.
For example, the idea of this drug is based on those similar to trenbalone, but it's "based" on them, it is not tren.
Example, this drug supposedly releases hydrogen molecules, then converting into tren. Therefore it is not actually tren, meaning it is not a true steroid. Tren is tren, only when it is tren.

[Rimbaud]

No, not steroids per say, this would fall under the category of 'pro-steroids"...basically just another name for fancier pro-hormones.
For example, the idea of this drug is based on those similar to trenbalone, but it's "based" on them, it is not tren.
Example, this drug supposedly releases hydrogen molecules, then converting into tren. Therefore it is not actually tren, meaning it is not a true steroid. Tren is tren, only when it is tren.

Agreed.

In a way (I suppose) they are steroids but through a molecular change/twist they're not classified as a controlled substance. Either way what you need to be aware of is that some of these compounds have been around for decades & never made it to market for whatever reason (unsafe). Remember a lot of these products can be harder on your liver the "real" steroids (i.e. Dbol, Winny, etc). Also remember these things will suppress your natural test production. They need to be used with caution & care.

Note: I've never felt worse then when I was taking M1T.

[Pete Nice]

Same as in your other thread: Be Careful!!

Basic Information on Prohormones: Superdrol in general, I think these are pretty good guidelines to follow

Superdrol for Dummies

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Does superdrol require a PCT?
Like every ph on the block SD needs a PCT.

Give me a sample superdrol PCT.

wk1: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 3 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk2: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 4 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk4: 20mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 5 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg
wk3: 10mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 6 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg

Is 6oxo and Rebound XT good enough by itself for a superdrol PCT, most people say it is enough
No! By no means is 6oxo or Rebound standalone strong enough to restart the test production in your body. You need a SERM! Period!

Nolvadex is therefore ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for an superdrolcycle. Please note its Nolvadex not novedex or nolvedex. Please look for Tamoxifen Citrate.
You can also use Clomid, some users feel this is good as clomid does a lot of good to your lipid profile.

Sample Clomid PCT

Day 1- 300mg
Week 1- 100mg
Week 2- 75mg
Week 3- 50mg

Clomid has worked excellently for me therefore I stop it in 3 weeks. It takes care of any testicular atrophy that may arise on cycle. Please do not use clomid for prolonged periods of time, it is detrimental.
You can look into combo cycles with both Nolva and Clomid in my PCT thread.

If budget permits you can also look into NAC.

Does running milk thistle along side superdrol inhibit gains.
No, silymarin does not inhibit any gains and does not have any chemical significance. It is purely for the liver. Its effect however is best in the preload and pct.

What are other good supplements I can run along side superdrol to combat side effects?
Red Yeast Rice- A fermented rice product, that is our best fighter against negative sides form AAS concerning cardiovascular damage. Comprised of nine different monacolins, which are naturally occurring substances that help regulate cholesterol levels. Along with sterols, and monounsaturated fatty acids, it packs a strong punch.
Dosage : 1.2g ED

COQ10- Although this is abundant in food sources, I feel it prudent to put on here. Not only does it show to help cardiac function, but it’s also imperative to be used with Red Yeast Rice. Can be used in combination with other cholesterol lowering supplements.

Celery Seed- A powerful anti-oxidant, shown to not only lower blood pressure, but may have cancer fighting properties as well. And there is evidence to show its ability in aiding the liver.

Hawthorne Berry: Also very useful to lower BP and keep it on check. A great on cycle supplement.
Dosage 1000mg ed on cycle.

Policosanol- A blend of fatty alcohol’s, shows great promise in its use as beneficial to cardiovascular health, to include the maintenance of healthy lipid profiles. There is also some theory to a synergistic affect with EFA’s.
Dosage : 20mg 2x a day

Saw Palmetto: The prostrate is one delicate part of your system that you do not want to affect under any circumstances.
SP @ 320mg/day

Primaforce ProLiver or Liv52.
Sesathin
These supplements are very necessary ON cycle as well as in the PCT.

I took superdrol, its 2 weeks up, I still don’t see any change. Why?
Well, its not superdrol’s fault, there is some mistake on your part.
SD will not work if your lipid profile is all haywire.
Most people underestimate the simple dictum of eating heavy and eating right. Please make sure that your calorics are adjusted to your body weight and height. I do not need to comment on your nutrition, but make sure that you take in 1.7-2g of Protein /lb of body weight.Roughly around week 2.5 through 4 you should start gains of 1lb/day.
Make sure your carbs and EFA’s are at a maximum
You need to drink @ least 1.5 gallons of water while on superdrol.

My cycle is over, I have to keep my gains, how do I do it.
If you want to keep your gains, make sure you take nolvadex. You will lose a little bloat/size due to water retention. Its good to take creatine and nitrous based compounds or cell volumisers at this point to keep your gains. I have not used CEE, but am looking to do so in the near future.

I had a very satisfying cycle, my pct made me recover fine, I want to get back into another cycle.
Well,this is something I've seen in many people, the temptation to use m1t and superdrol. Sure it does give good results, but you've gotta understand that you have a life apart from bbing. Imho make sure you give a full two month gap between cycles. After all you've got just one liver to use for a lifetime.

I do not know where to get the necessary supplements/ chems for my PCT.
Please do not ask on the forums for sources. I will try to help you through secure mail or pm’s. READ! Most experienced users in their logs mention the brands of nolva they use, if some just had the sense to google them……………

What are the important things I should know about Research Chemicals?

15.2 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate equal 10mg of Tamoxifen (nolvadex)
If a research Liquid manufactuer were unaware of this, and they suspend 10mg of Tamoxifen Citrate in 1 ml of solution and claimed a dosage of 10mg of Tamoxifen/ml then it would be underdosed to the tabs.

Of course if they claimed 10mg of Tamoxifen and added 15.2 grams of Tamoxifen citrate then they would be giving the correct dose of then 10mg of Tamox/ml relative to the tabs.

If they say 10mg of Tamoxifen citrate there not lying about the dose, it's jus not as much as the 10mg tabs of nolvadex.

NOLVADEX_ (tamoxifen citrate) Tablets, a nonsteroidal antiestrogen, are for oral administration. NOLVADEX Tablets are available as:

10 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 15.2 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 10 mg of tamoxifen.

20 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.

So whatz the math?
0.5ml= 7mg tamoxifen
1.0ml=14mg
1.5ml=21mg
2.0ml=28mg
2.5ml=35mg
3.0ml=42mg
3.5ml=49mg
4.0ml=56mg
4.5ml=63mg
5.0ml=70mg

I am not a doctor and neither do my opinions construe medical advice. These are just my views after using and researching about this product and answering a number of queries from users who were as confused as me when I first started it.




The superdrol checklist :

Superdrol 10/20/20
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed

PCT:
SERM :Nolvadex 40/30/20/10
AI :R-Xt or 6oxo
Prostrate:Saw Palmetto 325mg

DHEA 200/200/100/100
Fenugreek
Clomid (optional)
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed
 
 

[angelo212]

No, not steroids per say, this would fall under the category of 'pro-steroids"...basically just another name for fancier pro-hormones.
For example, the idea of this drug is based on those similar to trenbalone, but it's "based" on them, it is not tren.
Example, this drug supposedly releases hydrogen molecules, then converting into tren. Therefore it is not actually tren, meaning it is not a true steroid. Tren is tren, only when it is tren.

Superdrol is not a prohormone. It is a "STEROID". Research it and you will see.

[angelo212]

Oh, I see you called it a "prosteroid". I guess that will suffice to.

[coltrane]

also, note for someone who doesn't know much about this stuff----NOLVADEX is a steriod, and is illegal.  Be careful hunting it down

[HalloweenMan]

prohormones are gay.  i took m1d once and i felt like run down shit the entire time i was on it.  like how you feel right before you get sick.  no thanks. 

[Luolamies]

also, note for someone who doesn't know much about this stuff----NOLVADEX is a steriod, and is illegal.  Be careful hunting it down

Nolvadex is not a steroid, it is a SERM and is not really on DEA black list...
Easy to get a script too.

[coltrane]

Nolvadex is not a steroid, it is a SERM and is not really on DEA black list...
Easy to get a script too.

not really on the black list???  then why do you need a script?  it is commonly categorized as a steroid to a lay person, which the person asking the question clearly is

[Luolamies]

You need a script just because it is commonly used as a brest cancer drug. It is not a steroid, it is an anchillary product.

If you get caught with Nolvadex they don't bother to press charges, but if you get caught with dianabol you could get some trouble.

[Cleanest Natural]

not really on the black list???  then why do you need a script?  it is commonly categorized as a steroid to a lay person, which the person asking the question clearly is

Just how dumb cau be?...nolva a steroid... ...ever thought about writing a book ?

[coltrane]

Just how dumb cau be?...nolva a steroid... ...ever thought about writing a book ?

reading comprehension.....go back and read what i wrote.  with your spelling and poor reading skills, i'd think youre still in middle school

[peroni]

I've ordered some and will try it out. I'll post my results.

I'll be sure to protect my liver during and while on the PCT phase.