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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2007, 04:42:55 AM »
  Wrong. Don't be a moron. Dillet had no muscle thickness whatsoever. His pecs were flat like dishes and his back had the thickness of a local amateur competitor. Don't confuse the varicose veins in his pecs for thickness, because they were not. The only places where Dillet had real size were in his legs and arms.

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he had the thickiest delts in history of bodybuilding as well...
world thickiest delts plus world thickiest arms and very thick legs - how it goes with your theory that mashines not builds thickness and Dillet had no thicknes ?

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2007, 05:02:35 AM »
dillets thickness in side shots was incredible il go as far as to say the biggest and best set of overall legs ive ever seen on a man over 6 foot, his delts were also massive, he just had no back and his chest wasnt the best front on either but to the side his legs and delt thickness hasnt been matched by such a tall bodybuilder.
Wolf is good and a better overall package i for one hope they overlook the high lats and calves and give him the O not this year but in years to come, the combo of wide waists and wide lower lats and then huge short thighs is just such a drug look in my opinion, they all look like dwarfs up there its great to see a tall guy doing well.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2007, 05:20:51 AM »
he had the thickiest delts in history of bodybuilding as well...
world thickiest delts plus world thickiest arms and very thick legs - how it goes with your theory that mashines not builds thickness and Dillet had no thicknes ?
he paid for his delts---whatever he did to them


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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2007, 05:22:18 AM »
  I can't believe that I'm agreeing with GH15. Dillet never impressed me at all, except for his huge arms and freaky varicose veins in his pecs that were completely devoid of thickness. A look at him could tell you that he was a machine trainer. Why? It's very simple: machines can widen your physique and shapen it, but they give you no muscle thickness.

  I don't know why this happens, but I think that the coordination and effort that it takes to balance free weights hits the inner fibers of the muscle while machines only hit superficial fibers, and hitting the inner fibers is the only way to acquire muscle thickness. I have never seen a guy get thick pecs by doing only pec deck flies; a wide chest, yes, but not thick. Likewise, I've never seen a guy get thick lats by doing only machine pushdowns, only wide lats. To get thick lats, dumbbell, barbell and T-rows are a must.

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I didn't know that your muscles can tell if you are using a machine or free weights

weights, be it free weights or machine are tools...nothing more,  nothing less, there is nothing magical about either

it is prorbably best to use a combo of machine and free weights...
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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2007, 05:27:45 AM »
As some have mentioned, this theory about "machine trainer" goes nowhere, just as Oliva said the machines he used were better than weights so let's put them down as at least equal. The whole "stabilizer muscle" idea about free weights is unproven; if that were really so important, no one would even use barbells, just dumbbells, taking that idea farther.

Dillet's problem was lack of seriousness in everything-training, posing, etc. & a physique that reflected that with a lack of finish, detail, muscle maturity, etc. not what he used to work out with that's an incorrect correlation.

Agree about Wolf-the IFBB would love nothing better than to have a white good looking polite articulate BB as the winner; he could fulfill that by having a better physique to present than someone like Gunter who had part of but not the whole package. The idea that he has to be American to win as someone said, is silly.

As far as Wolf's flaw's, virtually any BB has em so that's not an issue if improvement continues.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #105 on: September 13, 2007, 05:30:04 AM »
i can't believe that labradors wife fucked that thing

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #106 on: September 13, 2007, 06:45:05 AM »
Hello, knock, knock, Wolf is not an American, he can't win; as he progresses he may get 5th or 6th but the nationality thing is a real hindrance whether you like it or not...
I hate the State.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #107 on: September 13, 2007, 06:56:56 AM »
heiko kallbach will win the mr o!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #108 on: September 13, 2007, 09:59:35 AM »
  I can't believe that I'm agreeing with GH15. Dillet never impressed me at all, except for his huge arms and freaky varicose veins in his pecs that were completely devoid of thickness. A look at him could tell you that he was a machine trainer. Why? It's very simple: machines can widen your physique and shapen it, but they give you no muscle thickness.

  I don't know why this happens, but I think that the coordination and effort that it takes to balance free weights hits the inner fibers of the muscle while machines only hit superficial fibers, and hitting the inner fibers is the only way to acquire muscle thickness. I have never seen a guy get thick pecs by doing only pec deck flies; a wide chest, yes, but not thick. Likewise, I've never seen a guy get thick lats by doing only machine pushdowns, only wide lats. To get thick lats, dumbbell, barbell and T-rows are a must.

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Yep he was definitely not impressive.  There were a ton of guys who looked like this. ::)








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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #109 on: September 13, 2007, 10:14:17 AM »
he is a freak but  i bet noone would like to look like him
but wolf on the other hand looks great

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #110 on: September 13, 2007, 10:24:16 AM »
  I can't believe that I'm agreeing with GH15.
 
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Well, you are not the only one. And I also agree with him on the idea that, quite possibly, Wolfe is the future of pro bodybuilding.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #111 on: September 13, 2007, 11:36:59 AM »
eastern europians dont lose foundation...           pure stupidity
ron and jason...                                             call him jay like everyone else         
wolfe is arnold all over again only improved...      wolfe aint got shit on arnold, and looks nothing like him.

dillet having no "thickness" is a joke.  if you think wolfe will be mr. o this year or next, you are delusional. 






posts like that just shows me why some of us never meant to be professional,,you guy are killing me :D,,you  think that having large set of arms and large set of legs will get you anywhere in bodybuilding,,,not in the 60s and not in the 2000s my friend,,every one can have large set of arms..reason you dont is because you overtrain them and dont know how to train them,,but EVERYONE can have large set of arms,,its not arms we talking about here,,it is not mr canada we talking about here,,it is not level 4 state show in california or florida usa we talking about here,,

the fact you look at shear size to determine anything is a bad bad bad mistake that only greenies and kids do,,when i get in a gym i can tell the bodybuilders from the kids in 30 seconds,,the kids are the one walking around with big arms and nothing else,,the champion bodybuilders on the other hand have everything on developed fully with great structure and balance,,everyday person and everyday whores may give 2 shits about your 18 inch arms,,what i check first thing is your set of pecs,,your back,,your midsection and waist,,your quads,,and overall thickness of the physiqe,,no not arm thickness!! OVER ALL THICKNESS OF THE PHYSIQE,,that is what i look at and what i look at is what the people who know bodybuilding look at! look at dexters arms when competing national,,they were very average,,we dont look at arms size to determine a champ my imbacile friend,,we look at everything!

DILLET DID NOT HAVE A CHAMP PHYSIQE,,DILLET HAD A LEE PRIEST CAVED IN CHEST WITH 'SAGGY STRUCTURE ',,,DILLET HAD NO BACK HIS BACK WAS THE LEVEL OF LAST PLACE IN NATIONAL USA,,DILLET HAD NO MUSCLE MATURITY AND NO POSING ABILITY NOR DID HE HAVE WORK ETHICS,,HE WAS A BALOON ON HORMONES AND THAT WERE IT ENDS,,HE WAS TOO TALL AND TOO BIG,,HE WAS TOO FREAKY LLOKING WITH NO GREAT BALANCE,,HE WON COUPLE DUE TO GENETIC RESPOND TO HORMONES WHICH WAS SUPERB BUT THAT WHERE IT ENDS,,HIS ARMS AND LEGS WERE INDEED SUPERB BUT THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO BE THE CHAMP IN BODYBUILDING

we in bodybuilding look at the overall picture,,,that is why jason is the champ right now,,,that is why guys like the hutch guy from this board will make it to a pro and be more sucessful than tropopin that may or may not make it to pro after hard hard work,,

you have to have everything developed inorder to be a champ,,it has to be attached to a small waist,,yes ron colman had a very small waist in 1998,,and so did dorian when started,,and so was haney and so was arnold and so was zane and so was larry and so was reeves,,,the reason they were champs is because of OVER ALL POTENTIAL TAKEN TO THE NEXT LEVEL WITH EVERY SINGLE BODY PART DEVELOPED TO AN EQUAL LEVEL EVENTUALLY,,

YOU CAN NOT WIN A TITLE LIKE THE OLYMPIA GOING AROUND LOOKING LIKE DILLET OR CANADA FRANK,,OR ERIC BOYIE,,OR LEE PRIEST,,,FREAK IS NOT ENOUGH,,

CHAMPS ARE MADE OF PLATINUM,,THEY HAVE DIFF LOOK TO THEM,,

DENIS WOLF HAS THIS LOOK TO HIM,,HE WILL BE THE NEXT MR O MOST LIKLEY IF HEALTH IS OK AND COMES ON 100%,,LITTLE POLISHING,,SOME MORE WORK,,BUT YOU ARE TALKING HERE ABOUT A CHAMP PHYSIQE COUPLE OF LEVELS ABOVE AND BEYOND ANY DILLETS,,
YOU ARE TALKIN HERE ABOUT LEVRONE,,RAY,,DORIAN,,ARNOLD,,ZANE,, LEVEL OF PHYSIQE AND GREATNESS,,THEY ONLY COME ONCE OR TWICE EVERY GENERATION TRUST ME ON THAT
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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out
« Reply #112 on: September 13, 2007, 12:55:37 PM »
this is right here your 2007 mr olympia,,you simply cant ignore the waist,,he is bigger than jason and bigger than ron,,his muscles have less hormones in them,,and he is big where it counts!

yes his legs are not as thick as jason and his arms are not as detailed and freaky as ron,,but his waist is a good 5 inch smaller with illusion of being 10 inch smaller carrying lots and lots of symetric muscle mass on the frame

it comes to this:
jason look like a bull
ron looks like a gorilla
wolf look like a race horse at its prime

you just cant ignore it,,even bloat he looks better than jason and ron
this should be the 2007 champ if he comes 100% on the day of show

bullshit as much as we like this kid, jay is still lightears ahead.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #113 on: September 13, 2007, 01:30:41 PM »
haha what an hilarious post. You write as if you are the authority on BB past and present. 'Wolf win win the O this year or next', lol, says who? You? He is great but Dillet was top 5, not too shabby, and something Wolf is yet to achieve. Wolf is harder yes, but his lines and proportions are worse, although his back is probably better. Anyway, quit writing such assertive, but not necessarily correct, arrogant bullshit. Dillet had calves 10 times Wolf. I think Wolf stands more of a chance maybe in the long run since his condition can be pretty sick, but the tone of your post is nevertheless inexcusable and annoying. Please never post here again. I shouldn't really write any of this since your stupidity is self-evident but I couldn't resist.


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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #114 on: September 13, 2007, 01:45:19 PM »
Looks great.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #115 on: September 13, 2007, 02:18:10 PM »
Haven't you guys figured out why GH15 is so pro-wolf?  ;)

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #116 on: September 13, 2007, 02:38:59 PM »
Haven't you guys figured out why GH15 is so pro-wolf?  ;)

Hahahaha, yes, it's a little "shell game" he is playing.  ;D

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #117 on: September 13, 2007, 03:44:03 PM »
dillet was alot better than wolf is now. sure his back wasnt that good and his chest could have been thicker..but his structure was incredible. he is among the best bodybuilders ever.

and yes he was lazy, didnt work that hard in the gym..but bodybuilding is about how you look on stage not how hard you work. dillets aas response had to be amazing. i can understand that these facts irritate other bodybuilders and gives dillet a "fake aura"...but nonetheless dillet was amazing.

ohh..the reason for him not having a thick back or chest isnt primarily due to him using alot of machines...its more due to him not working these muscles hard enough (partly due to inability to isolate chest when doing pressing movements..thus his gigantic shoulders took alot of the load)...same thing with back.

the scary thing, is that dillet could have been even better.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #118 on: September 13, 2007, 03:57:06 PM »


this physique is better than dorian yates in bfto 96.

dillet was too impressed by yates when in reality he was better than yates. dillet had huge respect for yates and was amazed by the 1993 kevin horton 269lbs pics of yates. in the legendary FIBO 94 footage with nasser, dillet, yates, richards.....people always discussed how massive richards and yates where...but once again in reality dillet was just as massive as those guys where, maybe even more freaky!




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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2007, 04:11:26 PM »


this physique is better than dorian yates in bfto 96.

dillet was too impressed by yates when in reality he was better than yates. dillet had huge respect for yates and was amazed by the 1993 kevin horton 269lbs pics of yates. in the legendary FIBO 94 footage with nasser, dillet, yates, richards.....people always discussed how massive richards and yates where...but once again in reality dillet was just as massive as those guys where, maybe even more freaky!



Right, a genetic freak of nature who was completely unable to pose and not smart enough to polish off what could have been the best physique ever. He was also unbelievably ugly, you can't deny that the face is part of the total package. If your respect for pros includes their will, intelligence, and cunning, then Dillet is not even in the top 100.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #120 on: September 13, 2007, 04:19:57 PM »
Right, a genetic freak of nature who was completely unable to pose and not smart enough to polish off what could have been the best physique ever. He was also unbelievably ugly, you can't deny that the face is part of the total package. If your respect for pros includes their will, intelligence, and cunning, then Dillet is not even in the top 100.

whats your point? dillet still had one of the best pyshiques the world has ever seen, regardless of his lack of work ethic etc.
lots of pros cant pose, people are almost brainwashed..and all they "know" is that dillet couldnt pose and had a bad back. so what? everyone has flaws..yates had a big tummy, no biceps and was no master poser either.


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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #121 on: September 13, 2007, 04:26:43 PM »
whats your point? dillet still had one of the best pyshiques the world has ever seen, regardless of his lack of work ethic etc.
lots of pros cant pose, people are almost brainwashed..and all they "know" is that dillet couldnt pose and had a bad back. so what? everyone has flaws..yates had a big tummy, no biceps and was no master poser either.



Yates could pose most certainly better than Dillett he wasn't a fluid poser like Makkawy or Labrada but he had a mastery of the mandatory poses , Dorian had biceps good ones not great by any means and Dillett's back was a major liability it was wide and thats it , it lacked depth , separation , thickness and his inability pose is legendary not to mention constantly bending over after each shot , what good is having a fantastic physique if you can't properly display it? and lets not mention his conditioning which was hit or miss.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #122 on: September 13, 2007, 04:31:15 PM »
whats your point? dillet still had one of the best pyshiques the world has ever seen, regardless of his lack of work ethic etc.
lots of pros cant pose, people are almost brainwashed..and all they "know" is that dillet couldnt pose and had a bad back. so what? everyone has flaws..yates had a big tummy, no biceps and was no master poser either.



Sure, Yates wasn't some kind of pose master, but most people either laugh or feel intense revultion when they see Dillet pose for the first time. I'm not just talking about a posing routine, but all the standard poses as well.

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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #123 on: September 13, 2007, 04:38:02 PM »
Yates could pose most certainly better than Dillett he wasn't a fluid poser like Makkawy or Labrada but he had a mastery of the mandatory poses , Dorian had biceps good ones not great by any means and Dillett's back was a major liability it was wide and thats it , it lacked depth , separation , thickness and his inability pose is legendary not to mention constantly bending over after each shot , what good is having a fantastic physique if you can't properly display it? and lets not mention his conditioning which was hit or miss.

i always thought yates was a good bodybuilder and had a good structure...(at least until he got pregnant). i know alot of people say dorian had a poor structure..i dont agree with that tho. i do think that dorian ruined alot tho from 94 onward. (alot of it had to do with injuries)

that being said..i still think dillet was better than yates. its my subjective opinion and it doesnt matter if dillet could pose or not. for me posing isnt a criteria that matters as im not a competition judge.


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Re: Dennis Wolf 3 weeks out from the Olympia
« Reply #124 on: September 13, 2007, 04:59:34 PM »
i always thought yates was a good bodybuilder and had a good structure...(at least until he got pregnant). i know alot of people say dorian had a poor structure..i dont agree with that tho. i do think that dorian ruined alot tho from 94 onward. (alot of it had to do with injuries)

that being said..i still think dillet was better than yates. its my subjective opinion and it doesnt matter if dillet could pose or not. for me posing isnt a criteria that matters as im not a competition judge.




I'll agree Dillett had a better structure than Yates , in fact Dillett had a better structure than almost everyone , Dillett was very rare because he was tall ( 6'1" ) had outstanding symmetry in all aspects , he had naturally wide clavicles , small waist & hips coupled with small joints and outstanding balance & proportion between muscles he had long full muscle bellies and great natural shape , however from a competitive bodybuilding standpoint Dillett left a lot to be desired in terms of muscularity , muscle density and conditioning and posing presentation , he was an outstanding a very rare specimen in the world of bodybuilding .