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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2007, 04:25:13 PM »

the quads are the best in business,,upper body is not
if ron comes like 2005 or 2004this wont be enough,,if ron comes like 2006 it will
this is indeed sub 4%,,it is not 3.1 but it is somewhere between 3.5-4.5% and on stage it might be true 3.5%,,less than that is a dead man,,2-3% will put you 6 feet under wether you want it or not,,andres was true 2-3% and you see where he is..

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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2007, 04:28:42 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZDPzXdwLF0
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2007, 04:33:42 PM »

the quads are the best in business,,upper body is not
if ron comes like 2005 or 2004this wont be enough,,if ron comes like 2006 it will
this is indeed sub 4%,,it is not 3.1 but it is somewhere between 3.5-4.5% and on stage it might be true 3.5%,,less than that is a dead man,,2-3% will put you 6 feet under wether you want it or not,,andres was true 2-3% and you see where he is..



Of course I knew that some people would doubt so I took a pic of his BF result.



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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2007, 04:34:40 PM »

Of course I knew that some people would doubt so I took a pic of his BF result.



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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2007, 04:38:00 PM »

No it doesn't, at all actually, I just know many people doubt so I make sure to have proofs.  That's all.
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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2007, 04:44:11 PM »

No it doesn't, at all actually, I just know many people doubt so I make sure to have proofs.  That's all.

well..i never understood the hype with the fat measuring.

go by the mirror..and if you use fat measuring..use it as a personal reference and make sure to use the same apparatus everytime or it wont mean much.

as some tests can show 6% fat while others show 27%....(as an extreme example)
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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2007, 04:44:21 PM »

Of course I knew that some people would doubt so I took a pic of his BF result.



and you think the machine is accurate huh?,,ill say it again 3% on stage maybe! anywhere else 2 weeks out and you will end up dead befpre the show no matter if youre 150 200 250 300,,
as you can tell i said he is 3.5-4.5% somewhere at the sub 4% but not 3%,,get andres physiqe up on here and check what 3% look like,,he is not 3% and on stage he may be 3% although the oil disturbe but he will be as close to 3% as possible anything lower he will be dead
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« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2007, 04:49:39 PM »

and you think the machine is accurate huh?,,ill say it again 3% on stage maybe! anywhere else 2 weeks out and you will end up dead befpre the show no matter if youre 150 200 250 300,,
as you can tell i said he is 3.5-4.5% somewhere at the sub 4% but not 3%,,get andres physiqe up on here and check what 3% look like,,he is not 3% and on stage he may be 3% although the oil disturbe but he will be as close to 3% as possible anything lower he will be dead

exactly. 3.1 is on the brink of death.
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« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2007, 04:58:31 PM »

exactly. 3.1 is on the brink of death.

I love bb but it's not exactly the healthiest of sports now is it.... Grin?
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« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2007, 05:00:41 PM »

I love bb but it's not exactly the healthiest of sports now is it.... Grin?

no, you can never claim bb is a healthy endeavor (at least not on pro level).

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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2007, 05:01:01 PM »

Of course I knew that some people would doubt so I took a pic of his BF result.


no that was the part where the machine calculates his chances of beating Ronnie again.
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« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2007, 05:02:25 PM »

I like Jay, but his left leg absoutely DWARFS his right leg. Just look at the teardrops and the outer quads on both and the imbalance is obvious. In other photos, you can see the same thing in his arms. It is interesting to me that everyone wants to talk about nothing but Ronnie's left lat and tri, bot no one wants to talk about Jay's obvious issues. And no, Jay will NEVER set a new standard for anything in BB. DOesn't mean he is not a great bodybuilder, but he will never even come close to the Ronnie of 2003, 2004 or even Dorian the year he did those infamous gym shots with Kevin Horton. If it were just a matter of weight and BF %, Quincy Taylor and Markus Ruhl would be battling for the O and Quincy won't make the top 15 and Markus will fight for a top ten spot.
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« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2007, 05:03:14 PM »

and you think the machine is accurate huh?,,ill say it again 3% on stage maybe! anywhere else 2 weeks out and you will end up dead befpre the show no matter if youre 150 200 250 300,,
as you can tell i said he is 3.5-4.5% somewhere at the sub 4% but not 3%,,get andres physiqe up on here and check what 3% look like,,he is not 3% and on stage he may be 3% although the oil disturbe but he will be as close to 3% as possible anything lower he will be dead

you don't know what you're talking about..

flex wheeler used to compete at 0.0% BF, he also made 100g per guest posing
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2007, 05:15:02 PM »

you don't know what you're talking about..

flex wheeler used to compete at 0.0% BF, he also made 100g per guest posing

That's an absolutely bullshit. It's also always a question how the BF is measured. A caliper for example (and Flex was measured with a caliper) only considers the subcutanious fat, but not the viszeral BF, and this can still be a good higher, also when the subcutanious fat is nearly zero.
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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2007, 05:19:21 PM »

I like Jay, but his left leg absoutely DWARFS his right leg. Just look at the teardrops and the outer quads on both and the imbalance is obvious. In other photos, you can see the same thing in his arms. It is interesting to me that everyone wants to talk about nothing but Ronnie's left lat and tri, bot no one wants to talk about Jay's obvious issues. And no, Jay will NEVER set a new standard for anything in BB. DOesn't mean he is not a great bodybuilder, but he will never even come close to the Ronnie of 2003, 2004 or even Dorian the year he did those infamous gym shots with Kevin Horton. If it were just a matter of weight and BF %, Quincy Taylor and Markus Ruhl would be battling for the O and Quincy won't make the top 15 and Markus will fight for a top ten spot.

The leg imbalance is extremely distracting. In every picture of Jay it's the first thing that catches my eye.  It's that great.

It's completely ridiculous that of the top 10 the guy with the widest waist and worst symmetry is the winner. 

And everybody just seems completely accepting of this because Jay's "such a good guy"
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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2007, 05:21:26 PM »

The leg imbalance is extremely distracting. In every picture of Jay it's the first thing that catches my eye.  It's that great.

It's completely ridiculous that of the top 10 the guy with the widest waist and worst symmetry is the winner. 

And everybody just seems completely accepting of this because Jay's "such a good guy"

Jay is not perfect, but the best what BB has to offer at the moment......
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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2007, 05:21:44 PM »

That's an absolutely bullshit. It's also always a question how the BF is measured. A caliper for example (and Flex was measured with a caliper) only considers the subcutanious fat, but not the viszeral BF, and this can still be a good higher, also when the subcutanious fat is nearly zero.

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« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2007, 05:24:09 PM »

The leg imbalance is extremely distracting. In every picture of Jay it's the first thing that catches my eye.  It's that great.

It's completely ridiculous that of the top 10 the guy with the widest waist and worst symmetry is the winner. 

And everybody just seems completely accepting of this because Jay's "such a good guy"
keep complaining its entertaing and we get at least 1 more yr after this to hear how much jay owning the bodybuilding world pisses you off! Cheesy
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« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2007, 05:28:49 PM »

keep complaining its entertaing and we get at least 1 more yr after this to hear how much jay owning the bodybuilding world pisses you off! Cheesy

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« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2007, 05:34:55 PM »

keep complaining its entertaing and we get at least 1 more yr after this to hear how much jay owning the bodybuilding world pisses you off! Cheesy

Actually I think Muscletech paid for two more Sandows, so Yes there will be a lot more bitching going on here.

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« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2007, 05:37:53 PM »

The leg imbalance is extremely distracting. In every picture of Jay it's the first thing that catches my eye.  It's that great.

It's completely ridiculous that of the top 10 the guy with the widest waist and worst symmetry is the winner. 

And everybody just seems completely accepting of this because Jay's "such a good guy"

Everyone comes in here...giving all these's comments....about Jay's symmetry and such...  There are only a handfull of people on this damn planet who are as a symmetrical as Ronnie, Flex, Milos, Shaw, Kevin....  Even Arnold wasn't that damn symmetrical..neither was Zane.....nor Franco....  There are only a small percentage of people on this planet whose left and right side match up like a cartoon figure....I obviously do not have the genetics of a Jay Cutler, but he represent's a more realistic physquie in terms of symmetry then most..... My upper body is very symmetrical...but I have the same issue between my left and right quads, and even my calf's look a bit different.... There's a reason why only a few people get to compete in the Mr. Olympia, they are one of the few that have more then ideal genetics for bodybuilding.....Anyways ...I'm hoping that the Big Ron brings the pain at the O.... I like Jay...  but man, you just got love "LIGHT WEIGHT BABBBBBYYYYY" 


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« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2007, 05:39:03 PM »

Actually I think Muscletech paid for two more Sandows, so Yes there will be a lot more bitching going on here.

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the way jay was breathing in his bb.com video I would say 1 would be pushing it!

guy looked like he needed a oxygen tank to sit down and do the interview!
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« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2007, 05:39:53 PM »

I like Jay, but his left leg absoutely DWARFS his right leg. Just look at the teardrops and the outer quads on both and the imbalance is obvious. In other photos, you can see the same thing in his arms. It is interesting to me that everyone wants to talk about nothing but Ronnie's left lat and tri, bot no one wants to talk about Jay's obvious issues. And no, Jay will NEVER set a new standard for anything in BB. DOesn't mean he is not a great bodybuilder, but he will never even come close to the Ronnie of 2003, 2004 or even Dorian the year he did those infamous gym shots with Kevin Horton. If it were just a matter of weight and BF %, Quincy Taylor and Markus Ruhl would be battling for the O and Quincy won't make the top 15 and Markus will fight for a top ten spot.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, no big deal.  A lot of people feel differently.
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« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2007, 05:39:58 PM »

Everyone comes in here...giving all these's comments....about Jay's symmetry and such...  There are only a handfull of people on this damn planet who are as a symmetrical as Ronnie, Flex, Milos, Shaw, Kevin....  Even Arnold wasn't that damn symmetrical..neither was Zane.....nor Franco....  There are only a small percentage of people on this planet whose left and right side match up like a cartoon figure....I obviously do not have the genetics of a Jay Cutler, but he represent's a more realistic physquie in terms of symmetry then most..... My upper body is very symmetrical...but I have the same issue between my left and right quads, and even my calf's look a bit different.... There's a reason why only a few people get to compete in the Mr. Olympia, they are one of the few that have more then ideal genetics for bodybuilding.....Anyways ...I'm hoping that the Big Ron brings the pain at the O.... I like Jay...  but man, you just got love "LIGHT WEIGHT BABBBBBYYYYY" 



HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE MR O. thats why you stupid fuck.

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« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2007, 05:42:17 PM »

Why can't you just disagree....why do you have to insult me, and use vulgarity?  Why man?
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