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Gingrich rules out run for president
« on: September 29, 2007, 12:17:46 PM »
Gingrich rules out run for president

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Two days after hinting he wanted to try for the White House, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich decided he would not run for president, his spokesman said Saturday.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will not seek the Republican presidential nomination, his spokesman says.

Rick Tyler said Gingrich realized he couldn't run a political action committee -- his American Solutions group -- and form an exploratory committee to run for president as well.

"He will continue to bring the American people solutions to the challenges America faces through American Solutions, not as a candidate for president," Tyler said in a telephone interview.

Gingrich told supporters in Marietta, Georgia, on Thursday that if they pledged at least $30 million to his campaign over a three-week period starting Monday, he would compete for the Republican nomination.

Gingrich, 64, has hinted for months that he would join the GOP presidential race if he determined no other candidate appeared able to take on the Democrats in 2008.

His hinting has become louder in recent weeks, with his suggestion that Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York is destined to be the Democratic nominee and that he would be the best Republican to debate her.

Gingrich said, however, that he has no desire to personally raise campaign funds.

Tyler said the assessment of whether or not Gingrich supporters could raise the money never began.

Gingrich, first elected to Congress in 1978, became the first Republican speaker of the House since 1954 when he led his party to victory in the 1994 congressional elections. He resigned suddenly from Congress four years after his party lost five House seats in the 1998 elections.

In the nine years since, Gingrich has not sought public office, but he has remained vocal as an author and speaker for hire.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/29/gingrich/index.html

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 12:58:27 PM »
As if he had a snowball's chance in hell of winning.  ::)

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 01:04:42 PM »
Snowball's chance in the general?  No.  In the primary?  Yes. 

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 08:05:22 AM »
You know it's bad when a man with a horrible personal life history like Newt Gingrich's is still much more appealing than any of the other candidates actively seeking the presidency. 

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2007, 09:07:15 AM »
I would love to have seen him debate Hilary...the guy is all about solutions, he would have destroyed her. He'd never get elected, based on his Conservative bent and personel issues. Besides Americans don't want to hear about personel responsibilty and having to sacrifice..or limiting government.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 09:14:15 AM »
He's too much of a polarizing ideologue.  Gingrich is a far too polarizing a figure for two reasons:  his personal life is disgusting (and hypocritical) and his political ideas ran dry after the Contract with America.  That was nothing more than a regurgitation from that pseudo-policy factory disgrace known as the Heritage Foundation.   

He's an apologist for the financial elites in the country.  Nothing new there.

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 09:37:53 AM »
He's too much of a polarizing ideologue.  Gingrich is a far too polarizing a figure for two reasons:  his personal life is disgusting (and hypocritical) and his political ideas ran dry after the Contract with America.  That was nothing more than a regurgitation from that pseudo-policy factory disgrace known as the Heritage Foundation.   

He's an apologist for the financial elites in the country.  Nothing new there.
he's no less a hypocrite than any of us, bro.  that's the truth.  not sure his political ideas are "dry" either.  as HH6 mentions, he's got more solutions than any of the other candidates have come up with.  i think he's better suited outside of the whitehouse anyway.  he'd serve much better as an advisor.

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2007, 09:48:20 AM »
Newt is the scariest man in the mix.

WHy?

Cause he is brilliant.

Rudy, Thompson, McCain, Edwards, Obama are not.
Romney is a good businessman but isn't overly brilliant.
Hilary is scary smart.

IMO, the leader of the free world needs to be brilliant.  Gingrich is smart than any of these folks.  But, he's also about squashing personal freedoms, in case you didn't know.  All the way down to internet censorship.  So while I admire his brains and will to make america strong, he's very anti-constitution, moreso than Bush even.

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2007, 09:55:31 AM »
Gingrich Says He'd Have Been a Contender
Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:26 AM

WASHINGTON -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Sunday he could have been a contender, but has no regrets about skipping the race for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.

Gingrich said he'd had a Web site ready to launch this week and already had received several million dollars in pledges.

"I think we would clearly have been competitive financially within three weeks, and we literally had not even set up the Web site yet," he said. "But what hit me was it would have been an underdog campaign. I mean, clearly, if you were going to come from behind, I think it would have been a real campaign. I think we would have had a chance to win."

Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler said Saturday that Gingrich opted out of the race, a crowded one with nine candidates, after determining he could not legally explore a bid and stay as head of his tax-exempt political organization.

Besides the potential legal difficulties, Gingrich said running would have wasted the effort spent building up American Solutions for Winning the Future, the tax-exempt political arm of his lucrative empire as an author, pundit and consultant.

"To give up and kill an organization we spent a year on and that had 2,000 sites around the country where people had now invested their time and effort just to look at whether or not you could run, I thought would be irresponsible," he said on ABC's "This Week."

Just last week, Gingrich said he had set an Oct. 21 deadline to raise $30 million in pledges for a possible run, acknowledging that the task was difficult but not impossible.

He said Sunday that the deciding factor was learning he risked violating the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law.

"I thought there was a way that you could continue the momentum of those ideas while I began to prepare a presidential campaign," Gingrich said. "What we learned yesterday morning was, I mean, it's literally a go to jail, criminal activity."

In a taped appearance broadcast on "Fox News Sunday," Gingrich also criticized the law.

"The effect of the McCain-Feingold censorship act has been to weaken the middle class, to make it harder to have a middle-class candidate and to make it much, much harder to raise money and so I think you've got to be realistic about what it takes to campaign," he said.

Gingrich said he would not align himself with any of the candidates.

"I'm not going to endorse anybody. I'm going to try to offer ideas that hopefully all of them can look at," he said.

Gingrich is the latest Republican to decide against joining the race. In early September, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel announced he would not run for the White House or seek a third term.

© 2007 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2007, 10:06:13 AM »
he's no less a hypocrite than any of us, bro.  that's the truth.  not sure his political ideas are "dry" either.  as HH6 mentions, he's got more solutions than any of the other candidates have come up with.  i think he's better suited outside of the whitehouse anyway.  he'd serve much better as an advisor.
I didn't leave my wife for another woman while she was hospitalized with cancer.  We all fall short when it comes to moral integrity but Gingrich's indiscretions are very bad.  And I am not a relativist to say all moral indiscretions or hypocrisies are the same.  They are not.

What are some of his solutions?

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2007, 10:08:34 AM »
He's too much of a polarizing ideologue.  Gingrich is a far too polarizing a figure for two reasons:  his personal life is disgusting (and hypocritical) and his political ideas ran dry after the Contract with America.  That was nothing more than a regurgitation from that pseudo-policy factory disgrace known as the Heritage Foundation.   

He's an apologist for the financial elites in the country.  Nothing new there.

Ding ding ding and we have a winner.

I can't believe anyone is talking about Gingrich. It seems everyone has forgotten what he actually is. This is a sign of the the overall quality of the candidates.

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2007, 11:07:10 AM »
I would love to have seen him debate Hilary...the guy is all about solutions, he would have destroyed her. He'd never get elected, based on his Conservative bent and personel issues. Besides Americans don't want to hear about personel responsibilty and having to sacrifice..or limiting government.

This is true.  It's too bad he disqualified himself by being a hypocrite.  He should focus on helping the Republican party define itself for the election.  They don't have a leader or a clear mission at this point. 

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2007, 12:13:07 PM »
I didn't leave my wife for another woman while she was hospitalized with cancer.  We all fall short when it comes to moral integrity but Gingrich's indiscretions are very bad.  And I am not a relativist to say all moral indiscretions or hypocrisies are the same.  They are not.

What are some of his solutions?
it's not about relativism, but rather pure fact. minimize or marginalize the level of it however you want, Deck, you're still a hypocrite just like i am, just like newt gingrich, and all the rest of us.  there's no getting around it. 

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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2007, 12:28:48 PM »
it's not about relativism, but rather pure fact. minimize or marginalize the level of it however you want, Deck, you're still a hypocrite just like i am, just like newt gingrich, and all the rest of us.  there's no getting around it. 

Yes we are hypocrites.  But the objects of those hypocritical examples differ.  Isn't it worse to leave your wife strickened with cancer in the hospital for a hot piece of ass a little bit worse than me telling my wife on a saturday night that I'm only on my 2nd scotch and water when it's really my 4th?

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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2007, 12:31:32 PM »
Yes we are hypocrites.  But the objects of those hypocritical examples differ.  Isn't it worse to leave your wife strickened with cancer in the hospital for a hot piece of ass a little bit worse than me telling my wife on a saturday night that I'm only on my 2nd scotch and water when it's really my 4th?
In God's eyes, they're the same, are they not? 

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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2007, 12:38:38 PM »
In God's eyes, they're the same, are they not? 
Maybe.  I would like to think that God is smart enough to see the distinction between a white lie and an intentionally vile adulterous act.

I guess the voters might see it that way...re Gingrich and not my penchant for Scotch and water.

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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2007, 12:42:31 PM »
Maybe.  I would like to think that God is smart enough to see the distinction between a white lie and an intentionally vile adulterous act.

I guess the voters might see it that way...re Gingrich and not my penchant for Scotch and water.
lol

Thankfully, God is on a whole different playing level of thought than you or me, Deck.   ;)

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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2007, 12:49:24 PM »
lol

Thankfully, God is on a whole different playing level of thought than you or me, Deck.   ;)
hahaha I would hope so.

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2007, 01:17:29 PM »
hahaha I would hope so.
I gotta roll for the day, fellas.  It was great talking to you guys.

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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2007, 01:21:10 PM »
I gotta roll for the day, fellas.  It was great talking to you guys.
So long C!

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2007, 02:50:38 PM »
Yes we are hypocrites.  But the objects of those hypocritical examples differ.  Isn't it worse to leave your wife strickened with cancer in the hospital for a hot piece of ass a little bit worse than me telling my wife on a saturday night that I'm only on my 2nd scotch and water when it's really my 4th?

This is an interesting discussion and maybe more appropriate for the religion board, but I'm one who believes not all sins are created equal.  I do believe a sin is a sin in God's eyes, but that some are worse than others.  I do think lying about whether you are on your 2nd or 4th drink isn't as bad as leaving a cancer stricken wife for another woman.  That said, I agree with Colossus that we are all fallible.  We all make mistakes. 

On the other hand . . .  :) I do make a distinction between mistakes made by public and private citizens.  When you become a public official, you are held to a higher standard.  There are certain things you simply cannot do, like call for the impeachment of the president over sex, while you are in the middle of a seven-year affair with a mistress.  Falling down like this doesn't mean you are a bad person, but I think it disqualifies you from certain positions of public trust.     

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2007, 04:24:26 PM »
republican voters would forgive newt for leaving his wife when she had cancer.

seriously, they would.

Anything so as long as the "libs" lose.

You could run a hitler/stalin vs. hilary/obama ticket. 

Ask the local neocons who they'd prefer.

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2007, 08:57:01 AM »
This is an interesting discussion and maybe more appropriate for the religion board, but I'm one who believes not all sins are created equal.  I do believe a sin is a sin in God's eyes, but that some are worse than others.  I do think lying about whether you are on your 2nd or 4th drink isn't as bad as leaving a cancer stricken wife for another woman.  That said, I agree with Colossus that we are all fallible.  We all make mistakes. 
I knew I was treading awfully close to getting this thread driven over to the Relig. Board.  ;)

On the other hand . . .  :) I do make a distinction between mistakes made by public and private citizens.  When you become a public official, you are held to a higher standard.  There are certain things you simply cannot do, like call for the impeachment of the president over sex, while you are in the middle of a seven-year affair with a mistress.  Falling down like this doesn't mean you are a bad person, but I think it disqualifies you from certain positions of public trust.     
This goes along the lines of scripture where those who are leaders are teachers and are accountable for leading folks away from truth.  You and Deck are right in that sense. 

 

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Re: Gingrich rules out run for president
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2007, 09:02:15 AM »

This goes along the lines of scripture where those who are leaders are teachers and are accountable for leading folks away from truth.  You and Deck are right in that sense. 

 

Yep.  A person, particularly a leader, can actually become a stumbling block for others.   

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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2007, 02:03:29 AM »

On the other hand . . .  :) I do make a distinction between mistakes made by public and private citizens.  When you become a public official, you are held to a higher standard.  There are certain things you simply cannot do, like call for the impeachment of the president over sex, while you are in the middle of a seven-year affair with a mistress.  Falling down like this doesn't mean you are a bad person, but I think it disqualifies you from certain positions of public trust.     


On this we are in agreement.



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