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Author Topic: Vic & Dex were the best on the stage!!!! I call bull!  (Read 8184 times)
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« on: September 29, 2007, 10:09:52 PM »

they had better conditoning and put together better then anyone else there Cutler got an early christmas present
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 10:24:18 PM »

dex and vic looked great dex  is awesome but needs to be bigger but Vic is  a bigger version of Dex and  abuild like that should win the olympia  you have size,symmetry,conditioning and balance what else do you need.  or you could look at jay and see size and mass no definition on the back or arms and abs that look like there dripping off his body that look wierd as hell , and a more soft look.    thumbs down for the olympia judges  its b.s.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 10:27:16 PM »

dex and vic looked great dex  is awesome but needs to be bigger but Vic is  a bigger version of Dex and  abuild like that should win the olympia  you have size,symmetry,conditioning and balance what else do you need.  or you could look at jay and see size and mass no definition on the back or arms and abs that look like there dripping off his body that look wierd as hell , and a more soft look.    thumbs down for the olympia judges  its b.s.

Wow...I couldn't have said it better myself.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 11:56:57 PM »

This is just proof to me, that you have to pay your dues in the IFBB.

Pathetic.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2007, 12:32:45 AM »

you guys must be black, the wolf was the best man on stage
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 02:51:03 AM »

you guys must be black, the wolf was the best man on stage

Haha thats funny.  But seriously why does everyone think wolf got robbed? He was not better than the top 3 imo.  Cutler is the reigning champ and still has a lot of size on him, Victor looked amazing, and Dexter was probably the hardest guy in the contest.  If anyone got robbed it was Victor.  He totally owned Cutler. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 12:48:15 PM »

i had no favorties coming into this show . but Jay shouldn't of won
my top 3 were wolf,Vic and dex.   
any 3 of those guys were better candidates  then Jay being olympia.
but politics can change alot and sway judging.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2007, 02:43:11 PM »

What do all Olympias as far back as Lee Haney not have that Wolf Dexter and Martinez do have? Thats right "Go-go gadget waist".
(no disrespect meant just wanted to say that) There is clearly a leaning towards a muscular physique with muscle crammed onto the frame, it cannot be crammed onto the frame if there is whasted space with no showwy muscles. High lats actually whaste space on the torso and there's no plus point to it. Even short biceps result in better looking peaks but high lats? Theres nothing good about thatand Cutlers lats are lower and more fully developed at the base.


It might not be right or fair but this is the criteria for a long time now. It's probably the most important thing if history tells us anything. Why are you suprised?

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2007, 07:13:21 PM »

All and all can be said over and over again, but seems to me that every Olympia, someone gets robbed. It's like a set of 24 inch rims at a P Diddy concert. Fact of the matter is this, when Ronnie won in the beginning...Flex should have won, couple of years ago Ronnie won, but should have lost to Jay and now this....Victor was truly the best man on stage....Flex and Dexter are alot alike unfourtunatley....there what true bodybuilding is all about....symetry with the mass.....problem is most want to see that crazy genetic freak, because that is what bodybuilding has come to...most bodybuilders bodies have so much sauce in it them that most Italians would be jealous...

The politics need to be taken out of the sport...that's it that's all.....let the man with the best physique win...and we'll be back to a sport we can be proud to call our own again
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2007, 07:45:34 PM »

I agree Vic and Dex both looked better than Cutler. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2007, 09:03:54 AM »

agreed vic was robbed
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2007, 10:55:00 AM »

I agree Vic and Dex both looked better than Cutler. 

Dexter was tiny next to Cutler now your just discrediting the whole debate.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2007, 08:07:37 PM »

Dennis Wolf made them all look small.
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2007, 10:21:40 PM »

Haha thats funny.  But seriously why does everyone think wolf got robbed? He was not better than the top 3 imo.  Cutler is the reigning champ and still has a lot of size on him, Victor looked amazing, and Dexter was probably the hardest guy in the contest.  If anyone got robbed it was Victor.  He totally owned Cutler. 

It just shows the subjectiveness of bodybuilding. Some people think Vic was robbed, some think Wolf was robbed, some think Dexter won. Some agree with the final decision that Jay won.

That's 4 different people who should have been Mr. Olympia. unfortunately, only one competitor can win.
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2007, 08:08:07 AM »

Dennis Wolf made them all look small.

He made them look short not small.
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2007, 01:45:25 PM »

Dexter was tiny next to Cutler now your just discrediting the whole debate.
Thought it wasnt a competition of only size.  In that case David Henry shouldnt even had been there huh.  But he was and hes a big small guy.  Cutlers arms looked like any other run of the mill juicer.
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2007, 03:28:51 PM »

Thought it wasnt a competition of only size.  In that case David Henry shouldnt even had been there huh.  But he was and hes a big small guy.  Cutlers arms looked like any other run of the mill juicer.

Thats not what I mean.... Even if you shrunk Jay down to the same height he's still bigger than Dexter.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2007, 04:21:57 PM »

Thats not what I mean.... Even if you shrunk Jay down to the same height he's still bigger than Dexter.
May be slightly bigger, but nowhere near the definition.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2007, 05:44:55 PM »

He made them look short not small.
Look at his most muscular shot, compared to the others.
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2007, 09:03:57 AM »

BAD CALL BY THE JUDGES.  IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN:
1 VIC (HE GOT JACKED) HE HAD SIZE, SHAPE AND RIPPED
2 DEX (IMPROVED BACK SIZE)
3 WOLF (ONLY THING KEEPING HIM FROM WINNING WAS HE IS NEW, BUT HE COULD HAVE WON AS WELL)

COLEMAN (INJURED BUT STILL CONDITIONED, LOST SIZE BUT CAN BE CONSIDERED BEST OF ALL TIME FOR BODY OF WORK AND SETTING A HIGHER STANDARD)
 
CUTLER (WAY TOO SOFT ESPECIALLY FOR SECOND OLYMPIA WIN, YOU GOTTA EARN A COUPLE BEFORE RECEIVING A GIFT)
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2007, 01:55:43 PM »

The Olympia is a show, not a contest. The placings are picked before the show. By the way Muscletech was the sponsor and the Muscleteh athlete has to win.
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2007, 03:39:29 PM »

Look at his most muscular shot, compared to the others.

U mean the crab shot...

Yeah true and thats 1 out of how many?
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2007, 01:01:11 PM »

The Olympia is a show, not a contest. The placings are picked before the show. By the way Muscletech was the sponsor and the Muscleteh athlete has to win.

finally someone actually says it..sponsored athletes win whether they deserve to or not!!

There are so many better physiques out there, but not "invited" to the Olympia..either you earn a place, or you're "invited"  whatever...notice how many guys had no business being up there?? Wonder why many of the perfect or the best physiques weren't there??  Hmmmm I wonder why THAT is?? There seems to be guys who will "pay" the price and others who refuse and stick to their guns and don't get up there...lots of crappy ugly physiques from what I saw, several very good, but an elimination round is necessary!!!  I don't believe that someone should be handed the "O" just because he's won it before..Jay was smooth, place him accordingly.  Victor looked GREAT, should have been his.  But that's not my rant today...my rant is..what happened to actually showing up with the best physique in the best shape with the best EVERYTHING, sponsored or NOT!!!!  Each progressive pro show is just getting to be more disappointing than the next.  all right, I'm done...
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2007, 05:48:31 PM »

Jay was crap.  A few years ago he looked good, but not now.  Wolf owned him.  Dex was more ripped and looked as big.  Don't believe me, look at them from the side.  Dex has better wheels.  Regardless, the show is political.  They did not want a steroid dealer to be the champ; although he destroyed Gutler.  Not even fair. Coleman is old, but he was still more muscular than Gutler.
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2007, 07:48:16 PM »

I would have to agreae ditch the polticts in this sport. I thought Jay didnt dearsve to win .I would have picked Dex to win but not Jay.
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