Shawn Ray Chest Training From July 1996 Flex Magazine

[The_Iron_Disciple]

hahahahha, yeah right, you were probably on the phone in tears to the NAACP.

Wow ... you got me there, Squad. Got to love your " well thought out " Replies. 

[dr.chimps]

Sorry, I know based on reality tv shows its now "ignorant" to stereotype people, but what used to considered a fad or stereotype has morphed into a definite class of people.   The black stereotype is now a class of people stupid, thugged out, bling-bling'in, jackasses guys.   So, we have two classes of people that share a skintone:  Blacks/African-Americans and Stupid, Thugged Out, Bling-Bling'n Jackass guys.

Read some Shelby Steele. Might help with your arguments, here.

[JOHN MATRIX]

modern-day italians are a completely different people than those who created the roman empire. theres no fucking way on earth modern italians could achieve something like that. anyone who has been to italy can attest to this.
italians are hardly even 'white' anymore at all

[The Squadfather]

modern-day italians are a completely different people than those who created the roman empire. theres no fucking way on earth modern italians could achieve something like that. anyone who has been to italy can attest to this.
italians are hardly even 'white' anymore at all

hahahaha, you could say that about any race nowadays.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Sorry, I know based on reality tv shows its now "ignorant" to stereotype people, but what used to considered a fad or stereotype has morphed into a definite class of people.   The black stereotype is now a class of people stupid, thugged out, bling-bling'in, jackasses guys.   So, we have two classes of people that share a skintone:  Blacks/African-Americans and Stupid, Thugged Out, Bling-Bling'n Jackass guys.

Yeah ... sad, isn't it ? It's ignorant People like you, Man of Steel that allow themselves to SEE the distinction ... to SEE Two Classes of People. But, according to YOUR LOGIC, I guess we could put just about EVERY Race into 2 Categories. You know, the " Well-Behaved Class " and the " Degenerate Class ". What do you think ?

[Al-Gebra]

Yeah ... sad, isn't it ? It's ignorant People like you, Man of Steel that allow themselves to SEE the distinction ... to SEE Two Classes of People. But, according to YOUR LOGIC, I guess we could put just about EVERY Race into 2 Categories. You know, the " Well-Behaved Class " and the " Degenerate Class ". What do you think ?

dude quit capitalizing random shit in your posts. it's annoying. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

Sorry, I know based on reality tv shows its now "ignorant" to stereotype people, but what used to considered a fad or stereotype has morphed into a definite class of people.   The black stereotype is now a class of people stupid, thugged out, bling-bling'in, jackasses guys.   So, we have two classes of people that share a skintone:  Blacks/African-Americans and Stupid, Thugged Out, Bling-Bling'n Jackass guys.

excatly. there are black americans, such as the fine, upstanding members of the Spurs, and then there are fucking nigs

[Al-Gebra]

such as the fine, upstanding members of the Spurs

 

[Man of Steel]

Yeah ... sad, isn't it ? It's ignorant People like you, Man of Steel that allow themselves to SEE the distinction ... to SEE Two Classes of People. But, according to YOUR LOGIC, I guess we could put just about EVERY Race into 2 Categories. You know, the " Well-Behaved Class " and the " Degenerate Class ". What do you think ?

Exactly.....blacks, whites, mexicans, etc....can all be divided into the classic groups and the new "stereotype" group.   Folks like you wanna pretend that the division in the race doesn't exist for some reason.  That we should all hold hands and be happy.  Ironically, it's the "stereotype" class that wants their autonomy.   Fine more power to em, but don't expect me to support their trashy ways.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

dude quit capitalizing random shit in your posts. it's annoying. 

Let's not stray away from the Thread, shall we ? If you find it annoying, then please don't read it. I'm attempting to have an intelligent discussion ( attempting being the key word here ) with some people ... your more than welcome to chime in, but please, don't bring up my capitalization skills ... that, my friend, is annoying.

Btw, do you like this post better ?  

[McFarland]

Squad you got me.  Forget it, alright?  

[Al-Gebra]

Let's not stray away from the Thread, shall we ? If you find it annoying, then please don't read it. I'm attempting to have an intelligent discussion ( attempting being the key word here ) with some people ... your more than welcome to chime in, but please, don't bring up my capitalization skills ... that, my friend, is annoying.

Btw, do you like this post better ? 

the next time you have a conversation w someone, try yelling at them at random intervals. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

haha i knew you'd love that. as an example of the latter part of my post you could use, say, amare stoudemire or raja bell

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Exactly.....blacks, whites, mexicans, etc....can all be divided into the classic groups and the new "stereotype" group.   Folks like you wanna pretend that the division in the race doesn't exist for some reason.  That we should all hold hands and be happy.  Ironically, it's the "stereotype" class that wants their autonomy.   Fine more power to em, but don't expect me to support their trashy ways.

Race, Religion, and Politics have always been and will always be a touchy subject. I knew it was mistake to try and post in this thread. Yeah, I don't necessarily think we should all " hold hands and be happy " ... however, I do think we should at least " get along ", if that makes sense to you ? I'm only upset because of the racism that's constantly being put out here at getbig ... a Bodybuilding message board for that matter. A lot of the bodybuilders that compete on state both in the professional ranks and the amateur level are black. It just confuses me is all ... how can you respect a black competitor ( like Ronnie Coleman ) a then procede to cut down his race ? Even lump him into a category ? And you are wrong, Man of Steele ... I don't " wanna pretend that the division in the race doesn't exist ... " I KNOW it exists, however, I choose not to see it. I choose, for the most part, to love everyone ... sounds gay, doesn't it ? I choose each and everyday to make myself a better person inside and outside and by doing that I choose to love all. Go ahead everyone ... flame me.  

[The_Iron_Disciple]

the next time you have a conversation w someone, try yelling at them at random intervals. 

Again, I have a certain way of writing as do may others here. It's my style ... I apologize if it offends you though ... or annoys you, for that matter. 

[Man of Steel]

Race, Religion, and Politics have always been and will always be a touchy subject. I knew it was mistake to try and post in this thread. Yeah, I don't necessarily think we should all " hold hands and be happy " ... however, I do think we should at least " get along ", if that makes sense to you ? I'm only upset because of the racism that's constantly being put out here at getbig ... a Bodybuilding message board for that matter. A lot of the bodybuilders that compete on state both in the professional ranks and the amateur level are black. It just confuses me is all ... how can you respect a black competitor ( like Ronnie Coleman ) a then procede to cut down his race ? Even lump him into a category ? And you are wrong, Man of Steele ... I don't " wanna pretend that the division in the race doesn't exist ... " I KNOW it exists, however, I choose not to see it. I choose, for the most part, to love everyone ... sounds gay, doesn't it ? I choose each and everyday to make myself a better person inside and outside and by doing that I choose to love all. Go ahead everyone ... flame me.  

I don't hate blacks.....I hate guys.   I don't go outta my way to anything special for either, but for the latter I keep outta their business and they keep outta mine.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

I don't hate blacks.....I hate guys.   I don't go outta my way to anything special for either, but for the latter I keep outta their business and they keep outta mine.

In the end, Man of Steel ... it's your world and I'm not going to tread on it. I have my views and it's quite obvious you have yours. I wish I would've never posted in this thread. My Professor was right. Have a good day, gentlemen. 

[Al-Gebra]

In the end, Man of Steel ... it's your world and I'm not going to tread on it. I have my views and it's quite obvious you have yours. I wish I would've never posted in this thread. My Professor was right. Have a good day, gentlemen. 

love is love.  everything is everything.















whatever the fuck that means. 

[roc]

great body no heart period!

[dr.chimps]

love is love.  everything is everything.

whatever the fuck that means. 

Hehe. That has Barry White written all over it.

[Man of Steel]

In the end, Man of Steel ... it's your world and I'm not going to tread on it. I have my views and it's quite obvious you have yours. I wish I would've never posted in this thread. My Professor was right. Have a good day, gentlemen. 

Here's a bit of advice that has served me pretty well:  "Don't bother trying to change a grown adult."

[rjp]

modern-day italians are a completely different people than those who created the roman empire. theres no fucking way on earth modern italians could achieve something like that. anyone who has been to italy can attest to this.
italians are hardly even 'white' anymore at all

No modern day country could achieve that. Germany was the last to try...it didn't work out too well for them.

Since you're so familiar with Italians, what are they then if not white (as in Caucasian)?

[KevinP85]

you are dumber than you are fat....

the darker the race the better the genetics for bodybuilding thats why blacks and italians are the the TOP.

you started this thread saying whites are superior to blacks, but all the best bodybuilders of today and the past are/have been BLACK. so that would make blacks a superior race... and thus you inferior to shawn ray.

then you make the argument that italians have superior genetics by listing italian bodybuilders...

you are dumber than dirt fatty.

I thought Austrians and Germans should belong up there as well, but they are not dark enough

[Palpatine Q]

I feel the need to clarify some things.

I am one of the offenders that posts incendiary racial remarks here.

Just want to say, in all seriousness, that I'm just fucking around to get a rise out of people. I am aware that racism exists, but I try to judge people on their merits and not their skin tone. It just so happens that a LOT of black people act like fucking idiots, so they are an easy target. In your own community this is an issue, as upstanding blacks feel that their ignorant brethren are undercutting the progress they are making. You think the rest of us don't see it?

I know it's childish, but fuck you, sometimes I feel like being a douchebag

[KevinP85]

No modern day country could achieve that. Germany was the last to try...it didn't work out too well for them.

Since you're so familiar with Italians, what are they then if not white (as in Caucasian)?

Last time I checked, and to be politically correct, Italians aren't white, but with all the race mixing they obviously look more white/causasian.