Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??

[Hulkster]

ps ronnie's side chest, along with basically every other pose, blows sergio away.

and as it should, there is a 30 year difference.

I can't believe the dorian nuthuggers from the truce thread (ND, Suckmyasshole etc) are here in full force arguing otherwise .

just goes to show you how little they know about judging and bodybuilding in general, just as we can see in the completely stupid truce thread, where dorian has been getting killed for 1500 pages now..

[NarcissisticDeity]

the whole board knows this!

LMFAO not quite kid even your boy pumpster admits the obvious , Sergio's structures KILLS Ronnie go back and read all the pro-Sergio comments , like all your other critiques this one is ignorant.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ps ronnie's side chest, along with basically every other pose, blows sergio away.

and as it should, there is a 30 year difference.

I can't believe the dorian nuthuggers from the truce thread (ND, Suckmyasshole etc) are here in full force arguing otherwise .

just goes to show you how little they know about judging and bodybuilding in general, just as we can see in the completely stupid truce thread, where dorian has been getting killed for 1500 pages now..

You're so pathetic lol NO ONE with any intelligence agrees with you even pumpster abandoned ship lol and stop trying to bad mouth me at every turn and prove me wrong ...............I'm waiting and NOT for excuses .

[Hulkster]

  Sergio is vastly genetically superior to Ronnie. This is not even debatable. Ronnie has:

 - Relatively high lats.

 - High calves.

 - A lower body that is longer than the upper body - the opposite of Shawn Ray, who has short thighs and a long torso.

 - High outer triceps head.

 - Far less dramatic clavicle width to hip width than Sergio.

 - Bigger joints than Sergio, giving a far less dramatic impression of size.

  Not to say that Ronnie is not genetically gifted. He is. But he can't hold a candle to The Myth in the genetics department. The only thing that Ronnie trumps Sergio at is sheer mass and vascularity, which is something that all bodybuilders from the 1990s and beyond defeat Sergio at. Basically, any guy can be bigger than Sergio with the amount of drugs bodybuilders take nowadays.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 your list of 'flaws' in Ronnie in no way shape or form prevent him from totally owning sergio.

thats why ND got owned so bad earlier, and you are just as bad:

all of these "flaws" do not hold up to reality in that Ronnie 99 has mandatory poses that are all out of this world.

if these flaws were so true, his mandatories would SUCK.

but they don't.

they are AMAZING:

[Hulkster]

LMFAO not quite kid even your boy pumpster admits the obvious , Sergio's structures KILLS Ronnie go back and read all the pro-Sergio comments , like all your other critiques this one is ignorant.

you are missing the whole point as usual..

just because Sergio has a better structure, does NOT mean he would win, or could win for that matter.

simply because:

1. Ronnie at his best had a pretty damn small waist too, esp compared to his lat width

and

2. just as when Arnold got into great shape and beat Sergio, Ronnie would do the same.

why?

because all the genetic gifts in the world won't help you if you have muscularity, detail and vascularity that do not hold up.

eg. compare sergio's arm shape (tris and bis) to ronnie's is sad.

genetic 'structure' only gets you so far in contest. there is TONS more characteristics and qualities that the judges consider.

the fact that you do not know this is not surprising because you know so little about judging.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 your list of 'flaws' in Ronnie in no way shape or form prevent him from totally owning sergio.

thats why ND got owned so bad earlier, and you are just as bad:

all of these "flaws" do not hold up to reality in that Ronnie 99 has mandatory poses that are all out of this world.

if these flaws were so true, his mandatories would SUCK.

but they don't.

they are AMAZING:

I've yet to get OWNED by anyone including you , you have NOT proven me wrong because you can't , you see what you want to see in pics , all the flaws I said he has are present in every single mandatory poses from every single angle keep running lol because you can't escape it . 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you are missing the whole point as usual..

just because Sergio has a better structure, does NOT mean he would win, or could win for that matter.

simply because:

1. Ronnie at his best had a pretty damn small waist too, esp compared to his lat width

and

2. just as when Arnold got into great shape and beat Sergio, Ronnie would do the same.

why?

because all the genetic gifts in the world won't help you if you have muscularity, detail and vascularity that do not hold up.

eg. compare sergio's arm shape (tris and bis) to ronnie's is sad.

genetic 'structure' only gets you so far in contest. there is TONS more characteristics and qualities that the judges consider.

the fact that you do not know this is not surprising because you know so little about judging.

See this is when you know you're completely and utterly owned when you're force to amend your statement and change the topic lmfao you're so screwed you're trying to argue points I NEVER commented on and again don't question my comprehension of the judging criteria because you never even seen it never mind understood it until I posted it and you still don't get it I proved my point that Sergio has a better structure and balance & proportion than Ronnie no one agrees with you except the ignorant even your comrade said the obvious , so once again you don't know jack ! 

Now I'll comment on what you now claim is your argument , Sergio 1972 VS Ronnie 1999 , Ronnie wins hands down no questions about it , however MORON I said if all things were equal and Sergio was born in 1970 he would CRUSH Ronnie , Ronnie would have NO advantages on Sergio if he was using the gear of today and understood the diets and drugs of today , man you look stupid just like the truce thread. 

[England_1]

Now I'll comment on what you now claim is your argument , Sergio 1972 VS Ronnie 1999 , Ronnie wins hands down no questions about it , however MORON I said if all things were equal and Sergio was born in 1970 he would CRUSH Ronnie , Ronnie would have NO advantages on Sergio if he was using the gear of today and understood the diets and drugs of today , man you look stupid just like the truce thread. 

This simply is not de facto truth.

Take Chris Cormier for example. He had structure, proportion, and balance far superior to Coleman yet was still blown away by Ronnie, not even close. To this date, the only man capable of being Coleman was Yates, period.

[NarcissisticDeity]

This simply is not de facto truth.

Take Chris Cormier for example. He had structure, proportion, and balance far superior to Coleman yet was still blown away by Ronnie, not even close. To this date, the only man capable of being Coleman was Yates, period.

The only thing Chris was lacking was conditioning if he had that Yates himself said he would beat Ronnie because Ronnie would enjoy NO advantages in size , structure , balance & proportion and if he had the conditioning so Chris would relegate Ronnie two #2 but Yates did have all those hence why he dominated .

[Hulkster]

lmao now chris could beat Ronnie with a bit more conditioning?

 

he need a BACK first folks...not to mention better arms, chest, etc.

he had better abs. thats about it. oh, and calves too, but who doesn't.

[Hulkster]

what the fuck are you guys smoking anyway?

 

[Hulkster]

you guys must be on crack..

[NarcissisticDeity]

lmao now chris could beat Ronnie with a bit more conditioning?

 

he need a BACK first folks...not to mention better arms, chest, etc.

he had better abs. thats about it. oh, and calves too, but who doesn't.

Chris would beat Ronnie with size & conditioning being equal NO ifs and or buts about it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what the fuck are you guys smoking anyway?

 

The standing relaxed Chris is just utterly destroying Ronnie I mean its night & day .

[Matt C]

Sergio in 1985 looked VERY good and at age 44 to boot!  He may not have been at his best, but he placed eighth in a very competitive lineup and at a relatively advanced age!

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympiareport1985.html

[kcballer]

coleman had a tiny waist? where? inside his other abnormally large one?

[Matt C]

coleman had a tiny waist? where? inside his other abnormally large small one?

Fixed.

[suckmymuscle]

 your list of 'flaws' in Ronnie in no way shape or form prevent him from totally owning sergio.

thats why ND got owned so bad earlier, and you are just as bad:

all of these "flaws" do not hold up to reality in that Ronnie 99 has mandatory poses that are all out of this world.

if these flaws were so true, his mandatories would SUCK.

but they don't.

they are AMAZING:

  Since this post was directed at me, I will reply to it. Hulkster, no one is arguing that Ronnie didn't look superb in most mandatory poses; after all, he did win the Olympia eight times and you don't do that without winning the majority of the mandatories. Obviously, despite his flaws Ronnie had less flaws overral than his competitors otherwise he wouldn't have beaten them.

  However, my point is that Ronnie had more flaws than The Myth, and if they were to compete at their bests, it would be a liability to Ronnie.

  Like I said, the only thing Coleman has on Sergio is sheer mass, and Oliva would easily defeat Ronnie at everything else. But having mass on Oliva means nothing, because pactically all bodybuilders of the last 20 years have more mass than Oliva ever had.

SUCKMYMSUCLE

[Hulkster]

The standing relaxed Chris is just utterly destroying Ronnie I mean its night & day .

just like your opinion compared the rest of the planet is like Night and Day...

keep telling yourself that you are right ND.

we will all continue to own you.

[NarcissisticDeity]

just like your opinion compared the rest of the planet is like Night and Day...

keep telling yourself that you are right ND.

we will all continue to own you.

LMFAO No one agree with you stop speaking for the masses that aren't backing you lol even your homo pumpster knows Ronnie is behind Sergio its old news except to the delusional , Cormier is like a black Bob Paris and his aesthetics & balance are just purely superior

[Matt C]

LMFAO No one agree with you stop speaking for the masses that aren't backing you lol even your homo pumpster knows Ronnie is behind Sergio its old news except to the delusional , Cormier is like a black Bob Paris and his aesthetics & balance are just purely superior

Sergio looked very good in 1985!!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Sergio looked very good in 1985!!

He looked good , very good NO

[Necrosis]

Chris would beat Ronnie with size & conditioning being equal NO ifs and or buts about it.

and shawn ray would beat dorian if he had his size.... what is the point of writing this shit

[Hulkster]

and shawn ray would beat dorian if he had his size.... what is the point of writing this shit

LOL tell me about it.

 yet more words of wisdom from ND..

[NarcissisticDeity]

and shawn ray would beat dorian if he had his size.... what is the point of writing this shit

Keep telling yourself that ! he'd still be narrow , he'd still be unbalanced , he'd still have a long torso and short legs and high calves .