Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ??

[Hulkster]

compared to HIS competition at the time no ! compared to someone who could match his size & conditioning it would .

and according to ND, this man matches his size and conditioning...:

the man is a complete idiot:

[NarcissisticDeity]

they are intelligent bodybuilding fans.

unlike you.

ps Ronnie stated in 99 that he was in better shape than in 98. at the olympia contest itself in the Muscle and Fitness contest coverage.

I know you like to sweep this under the table, but facts are facts.

NO You say he said that and you've been exposed as a liar already when you made up quotes that Shawn Ray said about Dorian Yates

and a few weeks ago after reflecting on his career Ronnie HIMSELF said his best Olympia showing was 1998 because specifically his conditioning was spot on this means his conditioning 1998 was NOT spot on . it was good enough to win but make NO mistake he wasn't as bone dry or rock hard as he was in 1998 .

[Hulkster]

You use the orange blurred pics of Ronnie all the time.

how else is he going to make what many feel is the greatest physique ever look bad?

distortion and out of focus shots are the only way to make this look bad:

[NarcissisticDeity]

and according to ND, this man matches his size and conditioning...:

the man is a complete idiot:

No he's bigger and drier and much denser 


hulkster see straw men to go along with your other weak argument you know the one from ad populum lol you're not smart like me 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND,

You seem like an intelligent guy but one thing that you do over and over again
that at least I don't do; is use the worst/distorted possible pictures of Ronnie
to make your points. (You don't do it all the time but alot) You use the orange blurred pics of Ronnie all the time.
If I post a pic of someone I at least try to find a decent representative picture
of them.

You know what the irony is? they use to post the same ones and hail them  and again maybe I should photoshop the pics you

[Hulkster]

NO You say he said that and you've been exposed as a liar already when you made up quotes that Shawn Ray said about Dorian Yates

and a few weeks ago after reflecting on his career Ronnie HIMSELF said his best Olympia showing was 1998 because specifically his conditioning was spot on this means his conditioning 1998 was NOT spot on . it was good enough to win but make NO mistake he wasn't as bone dry or rock hard as he was in 1998 .

the quote is right there in the magazine idiot.

I am going to see if someone over on one of the other boards still has the mag and get a scan posted to shut you up once and for all.

[NarcissisticDeity]

how else is he going to make what many feel is the greatest physique ever look bad?

distortion and out of focus shots are the only way to make this look bad:

Hypocrite see your above post with the 95 screenshot lol sucker

self owned

[Hulkster]

Hypocrite see your above post with the 95 screenshot lol sucker

self owned

that is a great shot of dorian.

he always looked that bad in that pose : 

dorian wrote the book on upper body smoothness:

[NarcissisticDeity]

the quote is right there in the magazine idiot.

I am going to see if someone over on one of the other boards still has the mag and get a scan posted to shut you up once and for all.

Again it doesn't matter what he said EVEN if it true , but we have to take what you say with a grain of salt because you have LIED about quotes before , what matters after reflecting on his career just a couple of weeks ago Ronnie came to the conclusion 1998 was his best Olympia showing and who the fuck are you to argue with him? LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

that is a great shot of dorian.

he always looked that bad in that pose : 

dorian wrote the book on upper body smoothness:

See strawman  anymore weak arguments you'd like to present as evidence? you just bitched about not using the best pics and what do you do? lol what the smart people ( me ) expect you to do revert to straw men , I own you kid.

260 pounds unmatched density , bone dry & rock hard a man the mighty Paul Dillett said was Jesus Christ in the flesh .

[NarcissisticDeity]

how else is he going to make what many feel is the greatest physique ever look bad?

distortion and out of focus shots are the only way to make this look bad:

Keep posting photoshopped pics of Ronnie while I laugh at you .

[Hulkster]

Again it doesn't matter what he said EVEN if it true , but we have to take what you say with a grain of salt because you have LIED about quotes before , what matters after reflecting on his career just a couple of weeks ago Ronnie came to the conclusion 1998 was his best Olympia showing and who the fuck are you to argue with him? LOL

who I am to arue with him?

listen moron, if you sat down and showed Ronnie the videos of both the 98 and 99 olympia (like they were posted on youtube) even HE would say he was in better shape in 99.

its that obvious.

who the fuck are you to say that the visual evidence is wrong? because it isn't:

[bizzy]

If Dillett had only had a back?

[NarcissisticDeity]

who I am to arue with him?

listen moron, if you sat down and showed Ronnie the videos of both the 98 and 99 olympia (like they were posted on youtube) even HE would say he was in better shape in 99.

its that obvious.

who the fuck are you to say that the visual evidence is wrong? because it isn't:

Now a real accurate comparison there Hulkster LMMFAO

Don't argue with Ronnie you don't look smart when you do .

When Hulkster is owned what does he do? revert to his ignorant self and post straw men comparisons even  when its Ronnie lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

If Dillett had only had a back?

He's still lacked conditioning and density .

[bizzy]

I'm not sure what this pic is supposed to prove but
from this one pic he looks bigger, fuller and grainyer
in the right one.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm not sure what this pic is supposed to prove but
from this one pic he looks bigger, fuller and grainyer
in the right one.

Oh he's bigger no one is arguing that just not as bone dry or rock hard and grainy is a term I've never heard use to describe Ronnie Coleman but then again what the hell he's also the best anyone ever looked onstage why can't be be grainy too?  hey maybe you can photoshop some graininess in?

[bizzy]

Some amazing screen shots off youtube
1999 British GP...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Some amazing screen shots off youtube
1999 British GP...

never seen them before  , you ' touch ' those up as well?

[bizzy]

never seen them before , you ' touch ' those up as well?

That actually cracked me up... Thx for the good laugh ND intended or not.

[NarcissisticDeity]

That actually cracked me up... Thx for the good laugh ND intended or not.

That was a legitimate question.

[suckmymuscle]

According to this article: http://www.ironage.us/articles/sergiovarnie.html
Sergio is 240 in those pics. The Ronnie pics range between 247-257 so there
is nowhere near a 30 pound difference unless the Ironage article is wrong.
I would also like to add that Sergio @ 240 has deltoid muscles dang close if not as big as Ronnie's.

  The difference in weight is irrelevant. Why? Because you need to factor in Oliva's much higher bodyfat and water levels. The difference in weight is 17 lbs(240 lbs vs 257lbs) between Sergio and Ronnie at their respective primes, but when you take into consideration Oliva'a much higher bodyfat and water levels compared to Ronnie in his 1999 Olympia form, the actual advantage in muscle that Ronnie has over Sergio is closer to 30 lbs, and that reflects in much bigger and therefore wider deltoids.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

Oh he's bigger no one is arguing that just not as bone dry or rock hard and grainy is a term I've never heard use to describe Ronnie Coleman but then again what the hell he's also the best anyone ever looked onstage why can't be be grainy too?  hey maybe you can photoshop some graininess in?

being striated and vascular is better than being grainy and smooth .

why do you think so few people share your opinion that dorian was better than Ronnie at his best?

there is a damn good reason your opinion is so rare:

[bizzy]

Hey SMM,

I'm done with this thread but I'm going to show you some respect by replying to your comment.

Because you need to factor in Oliva's much higher bodyfat and water levels. The difference in weight is 17 lbs(240 lbs vs 257lbs) between Sergio and Ronnie at their respective primes, but when you take into consideration Oliva'a much higher bodyfat and water levels compared to Ronnie in his 1999 Olympia form, the actual advantage in muscle that Ronnie has over Sergio is closer to 30 lbs, and that reflects in much bigger and therefore wider deltoids.

I think you make an intelligent point about the weight difference. (Makes Sense.)
Sergio @ 240 had deltoid muscles close to the size of Ronnie's. Added muscle to the side
delts would make Sergio wider than he was back then but by the pictorial evidence, I believe Ronnie's clavicles are wider than Sergio's. (Taking into account that Sergio @ 240 already had deltoid muscles that came close to matching Ron @ his prime size wise.) (Not that Sergio's are narrow by any means.) Ronnie's clavicles are not as wide as Dillett's or Cutler's. (This is Gossip and Opinions and that's my opinion right or wrong.)
PEACE!!

[mass 04]

Sergio was a great BB with a great structure, but unless i am missing something Ronnie blows him out of the water.