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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2007, 02:51:12 PM »
Yates in 1993

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2007, 03:30:18 PM »
Yates in 1993

Even if If he had 1970's arms/trunk/shoulders, this chest would still look average.

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2007, 03:31:34 PM »
Is is a question or training or posing?  It looks to me like today's pro's try to flex the pecs in together in the side chest shot to show striations.  (See Coleman picture below.)  Seems that pros around Arnold's era were pulling the arm back and doing best to show off the size of the chest.  (See Arnold picture below.)  

Don't know about others, but I find the older side-chest posing technique more impressive.




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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2007, 03:35:45 PM »
Is is a question or training or posing?  It looks to me like today's pro's try to flex the pecs in together in the side chest shot to show striations.  (See Coleman picture below.)  Seems that pros around Arnold's era were pulling the arm back and doing best to show off the size of the chest.  (See Arnold picture below.) 

Don't know about others, but I find the older side-chest posing technique more impressive.





Ronnie's delts and arms dominate his side chest shot and he does have really thick pecs but his side chest always left a lot to be desired.

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2007, 03:58:38 PM »
Perfect example

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2007, 04:02:51 PM »
they used to accentuate the chest in all of the poses during the iron age. they didnt care about what any of the other muscles looked like in the side chest, they just positioned their bodies in a way that made their chest seem the thickest possible.   pro's today accenturate the arm and deltoid much more in the side chest pose.....had ronnie ever hit a side chest in the same manner in which arnold and the irong agers hit a sie chest, he would fucking demolish every single on of them in that shot.

Agreed, so long as we're talking about pre-gut ronnie

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2007, 04:08:00 PM »
Agreed, so long as we're talking about pre-gut ronnie

Ronnie had a gut from the first Olympia win to the last

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2007, 04:09:19 PM »
Ronnie had a gut from the first Olympia win to the last

No doubt

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2007, 04:26:43 PM »
.......because most of them are torn!

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2007, 04:30:00 PM »
I see what you mean with the posing, almost like a side most muscular :P Me no likey

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2007, 04:37:50 PM »
you wanna know the real reason? doesnt mater because ill say it anyway
20-30 years ago you used less products and was 100% it was real pharma grade made in the best pharmas in europe and usa,,

now days you lose pec size just by worrying if your gear is fake or not,,then you got kids who only train arms for girls and never develop chest because theri arms doing all the work wether they want it or not

20-30 years ago all used the best ,,now days few use the best and most use sub products that usually dosed 1/3 to what they really should have in it and the powder purity coming from china is at about 40% while 30 years ago powder purity was 95-100% each and every time becuase the pharmas cant let anything other than that roll out due to gmp standards,,,

it all goes back to the drugs quality ,,especially underground garbage and,,and the arm only syndrom that started last 10 years and can not! be fixed if you already carry this syndrom

i want you to take real old russian dianabol or real naposim or anything pharma made ,,i want you to take real testovis or organon test and sustas and tell me you got no chest after a year,,that! is the real difference that you wont hear about
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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2007, 04:40:08 PM »
to make the arms look bigger
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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2007, 05:35:09 PM »
It's not the drugs. Bodybuilders today relly too much on machines. There are a few of them who have great chests like Coleman, Cormier, Jackson and no one else.






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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2007, 06:17:14 PM »
one of the reasons is because the upper body was more of a target.  That why most guys back in the early 80's and 70's had littlier legs than today.  Just a few had awesome thick huge legs.  The upper body is what everyone wanted big

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2007, 06:27:43 PM »
It's funny because of those guys back then were just as strong on maximal pressing efforts as the  guys today but their chests are better. 
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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2007, 07:05:47 PM »
you wanna know the real reason? doesnt mater because ill say it anyway
20-30 years ago you used less products and was 100% it was real pharma grade made in the best pharmas in europe and usa,,

now days you lose pec size just by worrying if your gear is fake or not,,then you got kids who only train arms for girls and never develop chest because theri arms doing all the work wether they want it or not

20-30 years ago all used the best ,,now days few use the best and most use sub products that usually dosed 1/3 to what they really should have in it and the powder purity coming from china is at about 40% while 30 years ago powder purity was 95-100% each and every time becuase the pharmas cant let anything other than that roll out due to gmp standards,,,

it all goes back to the drugs quality ,,especially underground garbage and,,and the arm only syndrom that started last 10 years and can not! be fixed if you already carry this syndrom

i want you to take real old russian dianabol or real naposim or anything pharma made ,,i want you to take real testovis or organon test and sustas and tell me you got no chest after a year,,that! is the real difference that you wont hear about

You're such a fucking moron. Todays gear is responsible for legs twice the size as in the seventies. But the chest yes that where it fails...

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2007, 07:13:39 PM »
chest also look smaller because of the wider and thicker waists/guts they come with nowadays

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2007, 07:42:32 PM »
You're such a fucking moron. Todays gear is responsible for legs twice the size as in the seventies. But the chest yes that where it fails...

again i will say it for the second time! it is the hormones made in the bath room or kitchen that you inject,,,you kids dont know shit from gold,,for you its all what the label say and not what actually is inside the product,,the legs of today and the ones who have them is as a result of growth hormone you infantile growth hormones and insulin,,insulin is ely lilly every where you look in your local walmart usa and gh is also easy to get legit if you look well as a serious bodybuilder though you will have to pay!

i will say it over and over ,,,the reason you dont grow to our level is because you use underdosed underground garbage and when i say underdosed i mean 1/4 of whats written on label in a powder that is maybe!! 40-50% pure so you get total of about 50mg test on every 300mg test you supposdly put in you ,,,FAKE FAKE FAKE NOT REAL AS IN NOT LEGIT that is why you cant grow to the size needed size of muscle that is muscle fiber not puffed up bloat of gh and insulin in addition in over 50% of cases with undeground garbage it is compltely oil with no dirty poweder what so ever,,the ones who put you 1/4 dose in are the honest ones! so remember that

i told you many times there is no difference between bodybuilders then and now beside 3 major factors:
1. drugs today are faked by underground criminals right and left to the 10th degree since 2000,,today you all look and hear 200mg/ml 10ml test for 40$ and you think you are geniouses who found good price while in reality you get olive oil with pint of unpure hormone powder which gives you those 7lb you so want of water retention to satisfy your brain yet you dont get even slightly stronger,,you are poor students or college kids who buy shit from shit and thus look like shit!
2. insulin and growth give you the feeling youre big but in reality you are 200lb with puffed up blown up physiqe that goes away 1 year past the use of growth and insulin,,its a lot worse than when arnold was off for a year since he still looked decent and could do fitness model right and left
3. you only work arms thus develop them even with the little bit of % you gather out of all the 5 vials of diff underground shit you inject and swallow,,you need so much because only using so many vials will bring up enough dose to make a difference! still the guys with no chest only worked their arms for the girls and will forever be stuck with no chest period,,when you got big arms and small pecs you will never ever have big thick pecs even if you bring it up it will always be lagging,,and vise versa

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2007, 07:53:57 PM »
It's not the drugs. Bodybuilders today relly too much on machines. There are a few of them who have great chests like Coleman, Cormier, Jackson and no one else.








bullcrap,,i developed one of the best chest in bodybuilding history using tones of smith and machines,,first 3 years in gym i did all work with free weights then the more muscle i had the more injury prone i got and added smiths and with 3 plates each side i developed very good chest ,,after foundation is on you it doesnt matter what you do as long as you progress by stimulating the muscle,,incline work is always better than flat bench for chest too! this is something you learn with time,,the only thing i would insist on doing with free weights is flys atleast first 3 sets then change to fly machine or cable for 2 more final set

free weights benching is good for powerlifting ,,we are bodybuilders its good to bench 5 plates each side like kevin back in the day when jacked but it is even better to do lots of machine work and cable work,,it will lengthen your career and will let you grow with out injuries and just as strong

as with everything else genetic structure has a lot to do with it also,,some black guys will have no chest and amazing arms,,,some white guys will have amazing chests and average or no arms
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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2007, 07:58:47 PM »
Gh15 what cycle do you advise for a drugfree starter?

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2007, 08:42:25 PM »
This is a pretty simple answer guys, it's because waists are bigger, it's not that chests are smaller, a bigger waist gives the ILLUSION of a smaller chest.

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2007, 09:06:05 PM »
Chests look smaller today than in the past because many bodybuilders chase a pump (not always a bad thing) to inflate the pecs and neglect their pec/delt tie ins which creates the illusion of width.  When was the last time you saw a video of a bodybuilder today doing discliplined gironda dips, presses to the neck, or even strict incline presses or db flys?  These exercises were all paramount to guys with great pecs in the past and no one really does them anymore.

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2007, 09:24:10 PM »
Guys have way bigger waist now, and bigger shoulders. This causes their chest to look much smaller than they really are.

Also back in the day, they were much better posers than they are today.

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2007, 09:26:40 PM »
This guy has a monster side chest....

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Re: Why do chests today look so small?
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2007, 09:28:01 PM »
This guy has a monster side chest....

Monster gut to match.