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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2007, 11:56:46 AM »
great advice smoke-seriously, I will keep close watch, in fact I might already be experiencing some indigestability at the high levels I'm eating-although I'm not noticing anything inflammation related. 

   I used to love UDOs a while back.  Now though, my new favorite fat is cold pressed coconut oil/butter. 

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2007, 12:51:27 PM »
Great points, very informative.

Do you have any views or opinions on Udo 3-6-9 oil? I have been to one of his seminars and other than being a total loon, he had some good research. Granted, that was based on his own situation with an illness he developed. Can't remember what it was but his big thing is to have  a 2:1 ratio of 3 to 6's which is why he said flax oil is off target with their ratios.

I can not eat fish for the life of me so I use this in my shakes and as salad dressing. Also contains, flax, borage, safflower, and a few others that are escaping me right now.

i use to take udos, and i dont think it is a bad choice at all. safflower is garbage, and it pro inflammatory so i wish he would leave it out. the other oils are fine and i beleive it contains some black current oil to add more gla to it. the only thing its missing is some dha and epa found in fish oil. these compounds have great effect on mood, inflammation, prevention of disease etc.. there are alot of benefits, i wrote about them in another post. but his idea is that given enough O3 via flax etc your body can produce the necessary dha and epa , this is sound in theory but because many have a poor diet the conversion and utilization is perhaps very low. so insted of supplying substrates id rather have the real thing, and supply some substrates i think it solves the problem a complete angle ruling out any problems along the pathway.

some might ask why im bashing O6 in yolks meat and not in this product. the main reason is that when supplied in proper ratios O6 has many useful purposes, and can promote a healthy inflammatory response, which is needed for immunity. also, his choices of O6 save safflower are anti inflammatory like borage for instance, while in yolks it is not, nor is it in red meat for instance. so not only the quantity but the type is important.

i would say continue the udos but if you opt for something cheaper, just try fish oil, and some borage and eat flax seeds.

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2007, 02:50:13 PM »
i use to take udos, and i dont think it is a bad choice at all. safflower is garbage, and it pro inflammatory so i wish he would leave it out. the other oils are fine and i beleive it contains some black current oil to add more gla to it. the only thing its missing is some dha and epa found in fish oil. these compounds have great effect on mood, inflammation, prevention of disease etc.. there are alot of benefits, i wrote about them in another post. but his idea is that given enough O3 via flax etc your body can produce the necessary dha and epa , this is sound in theory but because many have a poor diet the conversion and utilization is perhaps very low. so insted of supplying substrates id rather have the real thing, and supply some substrates i think it solves the problem a complete angle ruling out any problems along the pathway.

some might ask why im bashing O6 in yolks meat and not in this product. the main reason is that when supplied in proper ratios O6 has many useful purposes, and can promote a healthy inflammatory response, which is needed for immunity. also, his choices of O6 save safflower are anti inflammatory like borage for instance, while in yolks it is not, nor is it in red meat for instance. so not only the quantity but the type is important.

i would say continue the udos but if you opt for something cheaper, just try fish oil, and some borage and eat flax seeds.

Or I could just take a dha-epa supplement which is what I will probably do. My diet is sound other than I do not eat fish at all so usually more of my EFA's come from supps. My fats usually come from egg yolks, natural pb, red meat, almonds or mixed nuts, udos and olive oil in cooking.

Makes sense what you are saying compared to how I have been feeling lately. Now that you mentioned his theroy on conversion, I remember that in his seminar. Man, that was late '90's when I saw him. He had a flask on him and would take tugs of his oil from it...fucker cracked me up.

Thanks for all your help.

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2007, 03:15:15 PM »
Or I could just take a dha-epa supplement which is what I will probably do. My diet is sound other than I do not eat fish at all so usually more of my EFA's come from supps. My fats usually come from egg yolks, natural pb, red meat, almonds or mixed nuts, udos and olive oil in cooking.

Makes sense what you are saying compared to how I have been feeling lately. Now that you mentioned his theroy on conversion, I remember that in his seminar. Man, that was late '90's when I saw him. He had a flask on him and would take tugs of his oil from it...fucker cracked me up.

Thanks for all your help.

lol, he was drinking the oil during the seminar. LMAO what jew bag

no problem at all, i dont mind at all.

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2007, 07:55:18 PM »
  Oh shit, are you people still arguing this? Raw eggs: bad. It has bacteria, and tons of avidin which inhibit protein absorption as well as interfering with RNA-transcryptase at the mitochondrial level, thus diminhing proteing synthesis. There is nothing to gain and everything to lose by eating raw eggs. Meat and eggs shopuld be cooked, end of story. In fact, boiling meat actually increases the bioavailablility of the protein in meat - the idela is to pouch it. :)

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2007, 10:23:08 AM »
  Oh shit, are you people still arguing this? Raw eggs: bad. It has bacteria, and tons of avidin which inhibit protein absorption as well as interfering with RNA-transcryptase at the mitochondrial level, thus diminhing proteing synthesis. There is nothing to gain and everything to lose by eating raw eggs. Meat and eggs shopuld be cooked, end of story. In fact, boiling meat actually increases the bioavailablility of the protein in meat - the idela is to pouch it. :)

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i've never seen anything about avindin and protein.....just avidin and biotin...

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2007, 06:33:09 PM »
I didn't read the whole thread, but if you want to drink your eggs just buy pasteurized egg whites.
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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2008, 08:54:52 AM »
in ending this thread....


drinking raw eggs is ok.


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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2008, 09:33:20 AM »
in ending this thread....


drinking raw eggs is ok.


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does anyone drink raw eggs here?

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2008, 10:41:13 AM »
does anyone drink raw eggs here?
i drink one raw egg yolk after im done eating my eggwhites/vegetables stir fry in the morning..i save it in a dixie cup and have it next to me while i eat...then right after i take my vitamins/supplements (which is right after im done with the egg white/veggie meal), i down the egg yolk.


i just do it for the cholestrol.

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2008, 11:36:03 AM »
i drink one raw egg yolk after im done eating my eggwhites/vegetables stir fry in the morning..i save it in a dixie cup and have it next to me while i eat...then right after i take my vitamins/supplements (which is right after im done with the egg white/veggie meal), i down the egg yolk.


i just do it for the cholestrol.

so are raw eggs undigestible?

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2008, 05:45:36 AM »
thats kind of extreme candidizzle lol.

and yeah the chance of you getting salmonella from a raw egg is like close to sweet fuckall of a 15th decimal

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2008, 05:48:41 AM »
thats kind of extreme candidizzle lol.

and yeah the chance of you getting salmonella from a raw egg is like close to sweet fuckall of a 15th decimal


uh.....???

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2008, 06:16:24 PM »
bad analogy? damn, trust someone to pick that out.

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2008, 03:35:59 AM »
does anyone drink raw eggs here?

8-12 raw whole eggs everyday for the last couple years.  I use an egg beater thing the mix them up though, so I might stop that and start drinking them unbroken.

Does anyone know what the symptoms of biotin defficiency are?

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2008, 03:16:53 PM »
8-12 raw whole eggs everyday for the last couple years.  I use an egg beater thing the mix them up though, so I might stop that and start drinking them unbroken.

Does anyone know what the symptoms of biotin defficiency are?


are they digestible?

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2008, 03:35:51 PM »

are they digestible?

That is the $64,000 question =)

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2008, 06:18:25 PM »

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2008, 10:29:15 PM »
BUMP for smages giving me some insight on whether or not raw eggs can be digested

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2008, 03:37:22 PM »
BUMP for smages giving me some insight on whether or not raw eggs can be digested

Unfortunately, I don't know the exact answer. But from the top bodybuilding nutritionist they are digestible in this form or drinking Lana's egg whites. They are pastuerized.

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2008, 04:00:50 PM »
Unfortunately, I don't know the exact answer. But from the top bodybuilding nutritionist they are digestible in this form or drinking Lana's egg whites. They are pastuerized.


so you drink them out of the carton?

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2008, 08:10:26 AM »

so you drink them out of the carton?

Lots of pros drink Lana's egg whites. Mark Dugdale video, he is blending them in a shake right after morning cardio.

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2008, 08:55:42 AM »
Lots of pros drink Lana's egg whites. Mark Dugdale video, he is blending them in a shake right after morning cardio.

are they digestible? :D

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Re: Raw eggs undigestable?
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2008, 11:37:37 AM »