you can still get ECA fat burners if you're too lazy to make the stack yourself----not sure if its still on there but dpsnutrition.net had "tri-methyl lean" for sale a little while ago -----each pill has 10milligrams of ephdreda in them, the bottle will tell you to take one a day but thats just how they are able to sell them, you need to take 2pills 2-3 times a day-------that'll equal the dosage that the old xenadrine and hydroxycut had in them.