See this is gh15's problem. He believes everyone is on hormones because everyone he hangs around or comes up to ask him questions, all they ask about is hormones. He has no idea what can be accomplished naturally, and since he himself didn't or hasn't seen someone he knows for sure is natural at 225 or whatever, then it hasn't happened.
gh15 you are better off saying you haven't met anyone that has got to that level naturally. I believe Layne is natural...i mean he seems extremely dedicated he is and have you seen him? If he was on gear he would be much bigger, what he has accomplished is definately possible naturally, he doesn't really carry serious size to the point most wouldn't pick him as a bodybuilder.
any lifter that go competetive ,,and today even none competetive,,that dedicate time to the gym and to growth and is past 24-25 years old,,will find that hormnes is a must inorder to stay in this sport called bodybuilding,,
NO HORMONES = NO MOTIVATION
NO HORMONES = NOTHING TO EXPECT FROM TRAINING
NO HORMONES = NO WHERE IN THE ZONE OF 200LB SINGLE DIGITS
NO HORMONES = CANT PUT ENOUGH CALORIES IN BODY TO MAKE ANY CHANGES IN TRUE SIZE WITH OUT GETTING FATZO
NO HORMONES = NO JACKED LOOK AND NO JACKED LOOK = NO GIRLS CARING OR LOOKING AT YOU
NO HORMONES = NO FUN FROM BODYBUILDING AND NO ATTENTION
BODYBUILDERS LIKE ATTENTION THEY DO IT FOR ATTENTION THEY LIFT BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO LIFT BUT THEY MAINTAIN GOING TO THE GYM YEARS IN YEARS OUT FOR ATTENTION AND COMPETETIVENESS WHICH IS PART OF ATTENTION,,YOU DONT HAVE NATURALS NATURALS CANT ACHIEVE ANYTHING WHEN THE FISH ALL AROUND THEM ARE HORMONIZED
look into the 50s to find SOME naturals,,from 1960 i havent met or seen even one single true natural,,may have been and im sure there were but they were no where at the top or meian level,,they were rock buttom and did nothing in the sport or industry,,not even local show win!
