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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #125 on: November 13, 2008, 12:19:07 PM »
Contradiction.

Contradiction.


Oh, you actually watched those movies?  Dang!   :(

Read Robert Price's Essay...
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #126 on: November 13, 2008, 12:20:31 PM »
Contradiction.

...How about you guys find a single major incident/detail in the Jesus story that is not either:
-lifted from an earlier god or historical figure
-an astrological allegory

Bet you can't.


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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #127 on: November 13, 2008, 12:23:38 PM »
Actually, let's leave this thread for my incessant owning of Shroud believers.

I'll start a new thread.



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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #128 on: November 13, 2008, 12:28:39 PM »
Actually, let's leave this thread for my incessant owning of Shroud believers.

I'll start a new thread.



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I'm not a Shroud believer, but okay.  Thanks for starting a new thread!

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #129 on: November 13, 2008, 03:25:40 PM »
Rather than hijack this previously interesting thread, why don't some of you chronically ignorant Christian literalists start a new thread wherein you politely ask me to educate you regarding the symbolism of the Bible.

Then...

I'm not a Shroud believer, but okay.  Thanks for starting a new thread!

...so you admit to being a chronically ignorant Christian literalist?


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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #130 on: November 13, 2008, 03:29:51 PM »
Then...

...so you admit to being a chronically ignorant Christian literalist?


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I don't get it. When did I admit to that?

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #131 on: November 13, 2008, 03:31:32 PM »
Reading comprehension Loco, you just missed a good joke.

Re-read the previous post including the quotes.


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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #132 on: November 13, 2008, 03:34:30 PM »
Reading comprehension Loco, you just missed a good joke.

Re-read the previous post including the quotes.


The Luke

Forgive me if I do not share your sense of humor!

Why are you wasting time here anyway?  You should be busy reconstructing the four Biblical gospels from ancient mythical stories, as you claimed you are able to do.  I can't wait to read what you come up with.

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #133 on: November 14, 2008, 06:58:08 AM »
Forgive me if I do not share your sense of humor!

Why are you wasting time here anyway?  You should be busy reconstructing the four Biblical gospels from ancient mythical stories, as you claimed you are able to do.  I can't wait to read what you come up with.

Is the Bible entirely factual according to you?
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #134 on: November 20, 2008, 09:17:58 AM »
Where is my apology?

This thread has been up for weeks... I've explained this mystery explicitly: every detail; every unexplained feature; even the name of the author.

Where is my goddamn apology...? Admit I was right! Admit I should not be questioned (with regard to Forteana)!


Admit! Admit! Admit!


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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #135 on: December 03, 2008, 11:04:59 AM »
Hey, deity killer, I've asked you already, please take your obscene pictures to the porn board and keep them out of here.

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2008, 11:07:23 AM »
Hey, deity killer, I've asked you already, please take your obscene pictures to the porn board and keep them out of here.

That is not an obscene picture. It is a work of art. No nudity, just a carved sculpture. Exceptionally well done. Nothing pornographic about it.

Am I 'blaspheming'? You know that imaginary crime that religious nutcases invented to control people?
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #137 on: December 03, 2008, 11:19:31 AM »
That is not an obscene picture. It is a work of art. No nudity, just a carved sculpture. Exceptionally well done. Nothing pornographic about it.


That stuff isn't welcome on this board.  Thanks for your cooperation.
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #138 on: December 03, 2008, 11:21:05 AM »
That stuff isn't welcome on this board.  Thanks for your cooperation.

Gracias STella!   :)

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #139 on: December 03, 2008, 11:22:12 AM »
That stuff isn't welcome on this board.  Thanks for your cooperation.

Why not?

It was not pornographic.

This is a clear case of censorship.

You going to erase all this as well?
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #140 on: December 03, 2008, 11:23:38 AM »
Why not?

It was not pornographic.

This is a clear case of censorship.

You going to erase all this as well?
What for?

Your prior picture was inappropriate. If you want to post pictures of dildos do it on the sex board.
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #141 on: December 03, 2008, 11:25:46 AM »
Gracias STella!   :)

I see when it comes to her fundamentalism, the nice act gets dropped and in comes the censorship mad tyrant...

There was no nudity involved. I demand an explanation why it was removed!

And I will keep posting until I get an answer.
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #142 on: December 03, 2008, 11:27:56 AM »
I see when it comes to her fundamentalism, the nice act gets dropped and in comes the censorship mad tyrant...

There was no nudity involved. I demand an explanation why it was removed!

And I will keep posting until I get an answer.
A mad tyrant LOL!  What was mean about my post? 

In answer to your "demand" lol, your answer is if you want to post pictures of dildos, post them on the sex board.

You can talk to Ron about it.
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #143 on: December 03, 2008, 11:32:26 AM »
A mad tyrant LOL!  What was mean about my post? 

In answer to your "demand" lol, your answer is if you want to post pictures of dildos, post them on the sex board.

You can talk to Ron about it.

So I see there is no balanced moderation here; if something offends Christian sensibilities, delete it, if something offends non-Christians by Christians, keep it. Way to go. ::)
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #144 on: December 03, 2008, 11:35:32 AM »
So I see there is no balanced moderation here; if something offends Christian sensibilities, delete it, if something offends non-Christians by Christians, keep it. Way to go. ::)

Please, if everything here was deleted that could offend Christian sensibilities, this board would be about 2 pages long.

Why are you so upset you can't post dildo photos here?  Go to the sex board or the alphabet boards.  No biggie there!
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #145 on: December 03, 2008, 11:42:44 AM »
Please, if everything here was deleted that could offend Christian sensibilities, this board would be about 2 pages long.

Ha ha ha.  Great point STella!     :)

Why are you so upset you can't post dildo photos here?  Go to the sex board or the alphabet boards.  No biggie there!

Right, Deicide, Ron has created a whole sex board on getbig where you can post your pictures.

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #146 on: December 03, 2008, 11:46:48 AM »
Ha ha ha.  Great point STella!     :)

Right, Deicide, Ron has created a whole sex board on getbig where you can post your pictures.


I wasn't a sex picture fuckwad. ::)
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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #147 on: December 03, 2008, 11:50:40 AM »
I wasn't a sex picture fuckwad. ::)

It was a picture of a sex toy, genius!

And please quit hijacking my thread!

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #148 on: December 03, 2008, 11:59:12 AM »
Where is my apology?

This thread has been up for weeks... I've explained this mystery explicitly: every detail; every unexplained feature; even the name of the author.

Where is my goddamn apology...? Admit I was right! Admit I should not be questioned (with regard to Forteana)!


Admit! Admit! Admit!


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The Luke, I accept your apology!


Some Say the Image on the Shroud of Turin is Leonardo da Vinci
Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, in their book Turin Shroud: In Whose Image (Harper Collins, NY, 1994) suggest that the Shroud is an early example of photography showing the portrait of its creator, Leonardo da Vinci. According to this speculative theory, the image was made using a magic lantern, a simple projector, and light-sensitive chromium salts in an egg white medium.

Because Leonardo (1452-1519) was born almost a full century after a documented appearance of the Shroud in western Europe, the authors propose that the original cloth was a poor fake and Leonardo superior a superior hoax version. It should be noted that there are no historical reports of a sudden change in the appearance of the image on the Shroud.

Their argument is based on little more than that . . .

da Vinci was a capable genius who understood the camera obscura (pin hole camera)

he understood something of the chemistry knowledge of his era

he was highly motivated to fool the church

the image on the Shroud has many facial characteristics similar to those on the Shroud

a sense that the picture could only have been made with a lens

The late Dr. Alan D. Adler, Emeritus Professor of Chemistry at Western Connecticut University, in an article,, “The Nature of the Body Images on the Shroud of Turin,” comments:


In “Turin Shroud”, Picknett and Prince, assign the image on the Shroud to Leonardo. They propose a photochemical mechanism with sunlight reflected from a statue via optics to image on sheet of cloth charged with a mixture of egg white and chromium salts. As this is an albedo image, it will fail a VP-8 test and there is no chemical or spectroscopic evidence for their chemical sensitizers. They do not deal with the blood image problem. Leonardo may rest easily in his grave.

Adler's reference to "VP-8 correctly" refers to the ability to plot the relative lighter and darker areas seen in the images and produce a three-dimensional isometric drawing of the body.

The Leonardo speculation is moot because 1) the Shroud of Turin is from much earlier that Leonardo's time; 2) the image proposed will not produce a 3D image, 3) is based on presence of a chemical substance, a photographic emulsion, that is simply not found on the Shroud.

http://www.shroudofturin4journalists.com/davinci.htm

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Re: Has God left us a photograph of Christ's resurrection?
« Reply #149 on: December 03, 2008, 12:00:02 PM »
Shroud of Turin astonishes chemist in a new test, inspires a Discovery Channel special

Nov 25, 2008


A dying chemist took another look at the Shroud of Turin -- and came to surprising conclusions.

His story will be detailed in a new Discovery Channel special with the working title "Unwrapping the Shroud: New Evidence." The program will premiere at 10 p.m. Dec. 14.

The chemist, Ray Rogers, had worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

In 1988, he took part in tests on the shroud. The results revealed that it came from the Middle Ages and couldn't be the burial cloth of Jesus. But Rogers took another look at the cloth after suggestions that the test had been skewed.

According to Discovery, "What he found astonished even himself. In his last days (he had been battling cancer), Rogers made a video -- which before now has never been seen -- detailing his conclusions."
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/11/shroud-of-turin.html