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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2008, 04:10:47 AM »
people have to remember that hookers go to nightclubs too and dont tell guys they are hookers

getting tested is great givin both are faithful and 2 people in a relationship long term and being faithful is also rare, I was talking with this girl the other day on webcam shes telling me shes single etc etc, well it seems like she had one of those built in cams on her laptop, she was laying in bed and bamn the laptop slipped and i saw a man asleep next to her


That must have been a Trip ;D
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2008, 04:24:31 AM »
That must have been a Trip ;D
i asked her who the heck is that she signed off never to be seen online since or she blocked me or whatever


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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2008, 04:32:18 AM »
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.

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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2008, 04:38:23 AM »
You cannot expect people to train hard and heavy with high amounts of gas their whole life. Common sense.

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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2008, 04:54:41 AM »
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.
Epic ignorance. I have no idea where you pulled this from, but I can guess. The AIDS transmission vectors are indeed significantly weighted towards the heterosexual. In Asia and Africa, where women have diminished societal control/roles, it is sadly even higher.   

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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2008, 05:04:17 AM »
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.
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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2008, 05:19:49 AM »
moron...

Just as I suspected, a series of ad hominem attacks and no rebuttals to the comments I pointed out, as usual.  I find that the higher the IQ of the member, the less likely they are to be offended by my posts.  True story!  ;D  Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibility with facts.  :P  Here are some more:

http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~afranc5/Economics_of_Sexuality.pdf

Page 39.

The per-contact probability of HIV transmission is 0.02% for vaginal insertive sex. This means I would have to have sex with 5000 women with HIV before the odds of me getting it strike, or have sex with one woman with HIV 5000 times.

WITH HIV!  LOL.  And there is propaganda targeted towards my demographic?  How mathematically sound is that propaganda?

Compare that to anal-receptive sex where the odds are 0.8%, or one in 125 (40 times the risk). Now let's also use some common sense other than strict science and point out that anal sex is more predominant in the gay community in part due to the lack of pregnancy. Also, the overwhelming majority of the 58,000 people today with HIV are homosexual men or drug users. Straight men are a very small part of this picture.

Don't believe me?  Not that facts are debatable or anything, but here is another link anyway:

Baeten JM, Richardson BA, Lavreys L, et al. Female-to-male infectivity of HIV-1 among circumcised and uncircumcised Kenyan men. J Infect Dis. 2005;191:546-553.

Also, men get HIV more often in Africa due to existence of other diseases and compromised immune systems.  The facts above hold for men with healthy immune systems.

I don't see the point of a system where 88% of the propaganda seems aimed at a group which comprises 12% of the disease carrying population in North America.

http://www.whatisaids.com/wwwboard/messages/368.html

"But the politically incorrect truth is rarely spoken out loud: The dreaded heterosexual epidemic never happened."

"Female to male transmission is very inefficient, says Dr. Nancy Padian a professor in the department of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive science at the University of California, San Francisco and the author of a 1996 10 year study of HIV infected heterosexual couples, the nation's longest and largest. She points out that "it's two to three times easier for men to infect women." But even so, if there are no other risk factors involved, the rate at which an infected man will transmit the virus to a woman is one in 1,100 sex acts."


All scientific papers I've read on the topic indicate the odds range from 1 in 300 to 1 in 5000 for a male getting HIV from a woman who is infected, and I've read plenty.  Very low no matter how you cut it.

Any rebuttals, post them here and I will rip them piece-by-piece with logic and science.

I am concerned about other STDs - mainly bacterial ones like chlamydia and gonorrhea.

And by the way, it's not that I get extremely angry at HIV propaganda, but as a critical thinking person, it is offensive and promotes ignorance to me.
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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2008, 05:27:36 AM »
The syphilis is taking it's toll now Matt.  :D

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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2008, 05:31:00 AM »
So that means 200 Heterosexual men and women get HIV in 1 million one night stands.

What about the company you keep,Do you know which men are bisexual and what women they have been with.

Are these stats supplied by the Catholic Church they seem very suspect.
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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2008, 05:36:00 AM »
We just recently had a case in Finland where a married guy had sex with dozens of women, knowing very well he was carrying HIV. There were quite many of those females that were infected. But i guess you're right, it's almost impossible for straight people males to get that disease ::)

Fixed.

And yeah, that's correct.  Straight males do have risks to deal with in life though - like getting struck by lighting, or getting hit by a car, or drowning in a pool.  :P  Thank you for pointing that out to the board.

AIDS is somehing that homos and junkies get.  whens the last time you heard of someone straight dying of aids?  I thought so.

Totally politically incorrect.  >:(

But absolutely true, so nothing I will complain about.

PS - if you want to bash the tone of my posts, fine, but don't bash the science behind them.

So that means 200 Heterosexual men and women get HIV in 1 million one night stands.

What about the company you keep,Do you know which men are bisexual and what women they have been with.

Are these stats supplied by the Catholic Church they seem very suspect.

I cannot know which women have HIV, but even if all the women I know have HIV, the odds of me contracting it are still extremely low, and not something logically worth my time to even really think about.  That would be as irrational as worrying about being hit by lightning or some other equally unlikely event.  As I said, I am concerned about bacterial STDs, since they are actually common.

Don't take the facts from me - research them in peer reviewed scientific journals and confirm them.  :)
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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2008, 06:43:36 AM »
Matt c i buy you a ticket to Uganda and ill pay for the prostitutes you will probaly only have to fuck a hundred you should be safe ;D
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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2008, 06:51:27 AM »
Matt c i buy you a ticket to Uganda and ill pay for the prostitutes you will probaly only have to fuck a hundred you should be safe ;D

Perhaps, but remember that the main reason HIV is more predominant in males in countries such a Uganda is due to compromised immune function.
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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2008, 06:54:52 AM »
Perhaps, but remember that the main reason HIV is more predominant in males in countries such a Uganda is due to compromised immune function.

are you saying uguandans don't see the importance of daily vitamin C and E supplementation?
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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2008, 06:58:12 AM »
are you saying uguandans don't see the importance of daily vitamin C and E supplementation?

I'm sure they would see the importance of it if they could afford it.  :-\
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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2008, 07:09:38 AM »
    Although I don't agree with his delivery, the spirit of Matt's message is right when it comes to this.  He's also right in assuming that no one was going to post actual information countering his.  HIV is a predominately homosexual, syringe drug user, female virus.  The liklihood of a man getting it through heterosexual vaginal intercourse is slim to almost none.  Right now everyone is on this "sterilyze everything, kill everything with antibiotics, and test yourself for every disease concievable every two seconds as the minimum requirement to be considered a responsible human being" kick...and it's not necessary, efficient, economical, AND DEFINITELY NOT HEALTHY.  
    Another thing, very many heterosexual males get it(like so many others) through different avenuees: Few people have HIV, but millions upon millions have herpes-which is an open sore.  In all liklihood, the guys you hear about like Magic who probably slept with hundreds if not thousands of women didn't get it through regular vaginal intercouse.  It's almost impossible that he doens't have herpes, having slept with that many women; and it's likely also that with that many women, he ran into a few with HIV during an outbreak.  He could also have been having anal sex, which changes the whole ball game.  
   This whole HIV/AIDS scare has been blown way out of proportion.  And on top of that, now that the virus has turned 25, there are actually a good number of groups of people popping up who are not following the traditional HIV=AIDS=Death paradigm-like the Kenyan prostitutes and small pockets of people living in the States off meds and living exceptionally clean lives.  I've heard that The Other Side of Aids is a good documentary, and I know that Dr. Duesberg(prof. at UCLA) has done some great, but controversial work.

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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2008, 07:30:49 AM »
Also factor in that HIV cannot survive in Saliva, kills it instantly. so even those closet homos hitting the glory holes for blowjobs aren't at that much risk.  HIV is transmitted two ways, letting someone cum in your asshole or IV use.  LIke Matt C. said, why aren't we all dropping like flies? HIV has been around for over 25 years now. The reason it's such a big deal in the first place is that it hit the New York City gay community hard, and a lot of those fairies are in positions of power in the media, hence the  uproar

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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2008, 08:10:50 AM »
Also factor in that HIV cannot survive in Saliva, kills it instantly. so even those closet homos hitting the glory holes for blowjobs aren't at that much risk.  HIV is transmitted two ways, letting someone cum in your asshole or IV use.  LIke Matt C. said, why aren't we all dropping like flies? HIV has been around for over 25 years now. The reason it's such a big deal in the first place is that it hit the New York City gay community hard, and a lot of those fairies are in positions of power in the media, hence the  uproar
so gay men or say women who have anal sex and their partner dont cum in their asshole cannot get HIV? What about the guy doing the fucking? Are you saying gay men with HIV are only the guys catching not the pitcher?


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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2008, 08:11:34 AM »
Also can it be that guys with bigger penises are more likly to get HIV since they far more deeper inside?

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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2008, 08:13:54 AM »
and a link to the story of the porn start who has been doing porn for just 3 months and got HIV

http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/archives/000873.html

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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2008, 08:21:45 AM »
and a link to the story of the porn start who has been doing porn for just 3 months and got HIV

http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/archives/000873.html

That kinda backs up what I'm saying, no?

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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2008, 08:23:33 AM »
so gay men or say women who have anal sex and their partner dont cum in their asshole cannot get HIV? What about the guy doing the fucking? Are you saying gay men with HIV are only the guys catching not the pitcher?


Afreind of a freind i met in 1988 was gay all his freinds around him were dying from Aids,He only did oral no backdoor action and was spared the virus, it was a very sad situation in the 80s, just look at South Africa and the Aids epedemic there Hetrosexuals being infected by the thousands everyday.
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2008, 09:03:45 AM »
AIDS is somehing that homos and junkies get.  whens the last time you heard of someone straight dying of aids?  I thought so.

Eazy-E, Arthur Ashe, Ray Sharkey, and Hector Lavoe.

I am pretty sure there has to be quiete a few straight porn actors that have contracted AIDS and died from the disease. 

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Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2008, 09:07:12 AM »
Eazy-E, Arthur Ashe, Ray Sharkey, and Hector Lavoe.

they were all closet boofers, I think we all know it.
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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2008, 09:42:33 AM »
they were all closet boofers, I think we all know it.

You are incorrect. They got more putang (and only putang) then you could ever dream of.