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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2008, 10:12:17 PM »
Chicks dug him......too bad it wasn't the other way around :-\

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2008, 10:13:00 PM »

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2008, 10:14:16 PM »
So..If you know this? Then why try to force feed Nasser to people ? In all honesty..You don't resemble Nasser at all (sorry to break your heart) .. But look at all of the "ideal" physiques posted ?? Your physique resembles those more than Nasser's ..

Of course my physique or any common man's physique will resemble those posted as "the ideal physique" over Nasser's since Nasser's level of physique is so unattainable that almost nobody can be compared to it or resemble it, while it is easier to resemble the other physiques posted here.  Thanks for your pro-Nasser post!

1. I'm not a fan of todays physiques, 98% of them look like shit and wouldn't no how to train without a ton of gear, GH and insulin.

2. The judges set the standard for the "size only" physiques back in the mid 90's, the judges set the standards not the freaky competitor.

3. The phyiques of the 80's were better, better conditioning, better separation, more striated, better posing and especially better symmetry.

4. Nasser looked like shit..........PERIOD!

Jaelocal if the majority of fans shared your view the judges would be forced to reward such physiques and you would not see the ones you do onstage today.  In other words, your opinion means shit.  Ever hear of supply and demand?

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2008, 10:15:35 PM »
No















 ;D


hahaha this is what I expected after your excalibur/youtube question ;D

i was just fuckin around, i didn't know how to break up the vid into parts ;)

lets hear a story :)

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2008, 10:18:00 PM »
Of course my physique or any common man's physique will resemble those posted as "the ideal physique" over Nasser's since Nasser's level of physique is so unattainable that almost nobody can be compared to it or resemble it, while it is easier to resemble the other physiques posted here.  Thanks for your pro-Nasser post!

Jaelocal if the majority of fans shared your view the judges would be forced to reward such physiques and you would not see the ones you do onstage today.  In other words, your opinion means shit.  Ever hear of supply and demand?
Dude.. It wasn't a pro Nasser post...I dislike the man .. And those physiques (also yours) are not common  physiques..

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2008, 10:18:49 PM »
Dude.. It wasn't a pro Nasser post...I dislike the man .. And those physiques (also yours) are not common  physiques..

I know you didnt intend it to be but it turned out to be a pro-Nasser post.  Truth comes out.

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2008, 10:21:58 PM »
I know you didnt intend it to be but it turned out to be a pro-Nasser post.  Truth comes out.
Dude..If I like him ,I'd tell you...You don't know me and I don't know you ...

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2008, 10:25:53 PM »
this looks like the ideal physique.



Yes, Samir had a great physique.
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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2008, 10:31:36 PM »

Jaelocal if the majority of fans shared your view the judges would be forced to reward such physiques and you would not see the ones you do onstage today.  In other words, your opinion means shit.  Ever hear of supply and demand?


Lets clear a few things up here...

1. I have been saying on here since day one that it's MUCH easier to get big than it is to get and maintain symmetry.

2. Nassers physique is attainable, can someone look like Nasser...of course not, but then again Nasser could never look like me, you, Ronnie, Lavrone or anyone else. Do we have the genetics to reach Nassers size, no, but then again Nasser doesn't have the genetics for great symmetry and quite frankly Nasser couldn't do shit without as much gear as this dude took. The years he placed high in the Olympia was the year they started rewarding for size and through symmetry out the window.........just like today >:(

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2008, 11:58:25 PM »

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2008, 01:09:03 AM »
Lets clear a few things up here...

1. I have been saying on here since day one that it's MUCH easier to get big than it is to get and maintain symmetry.

But even more difficult is to get big and be symmetrical both!  Like Nasser, Ronnie Coleman, or Yates in 93.

2. Nassers physique is attainable, can someone look like Nasser...of course not, but then again Nasser could never look like me, you, Ronnie, Lavrone or anyone else. Do we have the genetics to reach Nassers size, no, but then again Nasser doesn't have the genetics for great symmetry and quite frankly Nasser couldn't do shit without as much gear as this dude took. The years he placed high in the Olympia was the year they started rewarding for size and through symmetry out the window.........just like today >:(

You're wrong there.  Actually, yes Nasser does have the genetics to look like them (and better) since he looked like them when he was in his early twenties (see below), and from there he continued improving his physique to surpass them into eventually the best physique in the world. 



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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2008, 01:37:00 AM »
The Ideal:



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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2008, 02:01:15 AM »
You're wrong there.  Actually, yes Nasser does have the genetics to look like them (and better) since he looked like them when he was in his early twenties (see below), and from there he continued improving his physique to surpass them into eventually the best physique in the world. 

No doubt Nassers physique was great at a time, but the best in the world...come on ::)
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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2008, 02:03:52 AM »
No doubt Nassers physique was great at a time, but the best in the world...come on ::)


For some years, yes.  Anyway, my main point there was to jaelocal who was saying that Nasser didnt have the genetics to look like these "smaller, aesthetic guys," so I'm showing that every mass monster looked like "smaller aesthetic guy" at one point but surpassed that.  Some lose their symmetry as they grew but Nasser didnt


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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2008, 02:08:25 AM »
For some years, yes.  Anyway, my main point there was to jaelocal who was saying that Nasser didnt have the genetics to look like these "smaller, aesthetic guys," so I'm showing that every mass monster looked like "smaller aesthetic guy" at one point but surpassed that.  Some lose their symmetry as they grew but Nasser didnt

Yeah, i hate to say it, but i agree. For a mass monster, Nasser's symmetry was pretty good.
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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2008, 02:30:21 AM »
The Ideal:




40 some years later, i still can't get over don howarth's shoulders. incredible!!

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2008, 07:26:29 AM »
 Nasser  ???

Still dont get it do you. Nobody cares about Nasser except you and your underwear buddies. How often was nasser even discussed on this forum before you started spamming every thread? Zero. Coleman/Yates/Wheeler etc are the most talked about. All the size and drug use and his placings dropped to a dismal 14th which ultimately ended in his retirement and started new career as worn clothes salesman.  How many firsts does Nasser have? 3-4? If his physique was that great he would have won more often - notably in international competitions ( racism there too?). The ones that he did win he ended up placing 3rd or worse in the later years.

Even when discussing size people bring up Ruhl or Dennis James. Again nasser is not even worth a mention. Nasser is a footnote or less in bodybuilding history. No one cared before or now, that it until his infamous interview. Did that win him any respect? Only among you queers. Thanks to you mutts Nasser is now a joke on this site. Before your spam game people were simply indifferent.

As far as him having the ideal physique - that's laughable. Only musclebear worshipping retards like you lot seem to think so. Anyway do continue to post more nasser pics and your enlightened comments.  We need some humor on this site.

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #67 on: January 19, 2008, 07:40:15 AM »
You're wrong there.  Actually, yes Nasser does have the genetics to look like them (and better) since he looked like them when he was in his early twenties (see below), and from there he continued improving his physique to surpass them into eventually the best physique in the world. 




Yes, I agree, at one time he did have a great physique at one time, but then, like most today decided to take ten steps further and totally ruin what he had instead of putting just a little more size and perfecting and refining what he already had, his choices lead to a shortened career and injuries left and right.

Ronnies best was between 99-01 after that his symmetry went to crap, he went from having great symmetry to having some of the worst symmetry to date.

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2008, 07:40:46 AM »
i think dugdale is pretty close to the ideal...

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2008, 08:49:04 AM »
i think dugdale is pretty close to the ideal...

he's like 5'5 though
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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2008, 09:39:54 AM »
Bannout was great, but here are some more.

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2008, 12:03:22 AM »
SAMASSER SMELL SOME BODY.... this dude is a fvcking toad ;D

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2008, 11:25:09 AM »
Nasser  ???

Still dont get it do you. Nobody cares about Nasser except you and your underwear buddies. How often was nasser even discussed on this forum before you started spamming every thread? Zero. Coleman/Yates/Wheeler etc are the most talked about. All the size and drug use and his placings dropped to a dismal 14th which ultimately ended in his retirement and started new career as worn clothes salesman.  How many firsts does Nasser have? 3-4? If his physique was that great he would have won more often - notably in international competitions ( racism there too?). The ones that he did win he ended up placing 3rd or worse in the later years.

Even when discussing size people bring up Ruhl or Dennis James. Again nasser is not even worth a mention. Nasser is a footnote or less in bodybuilding history. No one cared before or now, that it until his infamous interview. Did that win him any respect? Only among you queers. Thanks to you mutts Nasser is now a joke on this site. Before your spam game people were simply indifferent.

As far as him having the ideal physique - that's laughable. Only musclebear worshipping retards like you lot seem to think so. Anyway do continue to post more nasser pics and your enlightened comments.  We need some humor on this site.

Well put !  I agree 1,000,000% !

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2008, 05:31:42 PM »
Yes, I agree, at one time he did have a great physique at one time, but then, like most today decided to take ten steps further and totally ruin what he had instead of putting just a little more size and perfecting and refining what he already had, his choices lead to a shortened career and injuries left and right.

Ronnies best was between 99-01 after that his symmetry went to crap, he went from having great symmetry to having some of the worst symmetry to date.

So you proved my point that what you guys think is the "ideal physique" is simply one that is less massive than today's top pros, and that most of the bigger pros of today had when they were younger (like 23-25) a physique that you would consider "ideal" like Samir Bannout at his biggest. 

As for your comment about their subsequent growth "ruining" their physique, I'll simply repeat what I said earlier - if the majority of fans agreed the judges would face pressure to reward such physiques and you would not see the mass monsters that you do today.  It's called supply and demand!

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Re: Is this the Ideal?
« Reply #74 on: January 20, 2008, 05:38:17 PM »
Nasser  ???

Still dont get it do you. Nobody cares about Nasser except you and your underwear buddies. How often was nasser even discussed on this forum before you started spamming every thread? Zero. Coleman/Yates/Wheeler etc are the most talked about. All the size and drug use and his placings dropped to a dismal 14th which ultimately ended in his retirement and started new career as worn clothes salesman.  How many firsts does Nasser have? 3-4? If his physique was that great he would have won more often - notably in international competitions ( racism there too?). The ones that he did win he ended up placing 3rd or worse in the later years.

Even when discussing size people bring up Ruhl or Dennis James. Again nasser is not even worth a mention. Nasser is a footnote or less in bodybuilding history. No one cared before or now, that it until his infamous interview. Did that win him any respect? Only among you queers. Thanks to you mutts Nasser is now a joke on this site. Before your spam game people were simply indifferent.

As far as him having the ideal physique - that's laughable. Only musclebear worshipping retards like you lot seem to think so. Anyway do continue to post more nasser pics and your enlightened comments.  We need some humor on this site.


Nasser has 6 pro wins (deserved many more), and a ton of top 3 placings - actually from 1995 to 2000 (for six straight years) he placed in the top 3 in 29 of the 35 shows he competed in!  That's a very consistent record to the say the least.  He also beat Levrone, Wheeler, and Ray many times, and would have beaten them more if he was a winner of the NPC USA show since they always got favoured over "foreigners."  You mentioned Ruhl and Dennis James?!  ???  They weren't even in Nasser's league.  The ONLY person to be more massive (at an average height) than Nasser at his best at the 99 Arnold Classic at a ripped 289 lbs was Ronnie Coleman in, I forget which year, but when he competed at 296 I think it was.