Author Topic: Can you get a respectable pair of legs without squats? (Read 5517 times)

haider · « **Reply #50 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:37:08 PM »

Quote from: therealyoungguns on February 03, 2008, 08:35:19 PM

agreed, you almost need to have a jacked upper body to attempt them

wrong, I've been doing them no problem and I'm not jacked by any standard. It's only when you're starting out, but then back squats are hard on your traps too when u first start.

BFP · « **Reply #51 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:37:26 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on February 03, 2008, 07:47:04 PM

That reading HAS to be off

You've seen me with my shirt off?

Jason

BFP · « **Reply #52 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:38:00 PM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on February 03, 2008, 07:48:33 PM

what do you mean by nutty?

crazy

Jason

BFP · « **Reply #53 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:39:35 PM »

Quote from: therealyoungguns on February 03, 2008, 08:35:19 PM

agreed, you almost need to have a jacked upper body to attempt them

If you wrap a set of wrist straps around the bar and hold the loose end it makes it alot easier to both breathe and control the bar.

Jason

therealyoungguns · « **Reply #54 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:40:25 PM »

Quote from: Jason Pegg on February 03, 2008, 08:38:00 PM

crazy

Jason

Jason, your fat, drop it.

Frot squats KILL my shoulders for 4 days after

Get Rowdy · « **Reply #55 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:58:19 PM »

Quote from: therealyoungguns on February 03, 2008, 08:40:25 PM

Jason, your fat, drop it.

Frot squats KILL my shoulders for 4 days after

Wrap a towel around the bar.

BFP · « **Reply #56 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:59:27 PM »

Quote from: therealyoungguns on February 03, 2008, 08:40:25 PM

Jason, your fat, drop it.

Frot squats KILL my shoulders for 4 days after

Its because you have no muscle for the bar to rest on.

Jason

chaos · « **Reply #57 on:** February 03, 2008, 09:01:13 PM »

Quote from: haider on February 03, 2008, 08:37:08 PM

wrong, I've been doing them no problem and I'm not jacked by any standard. It's only when you're starting out, but then back squats are hard on your traps too when u first start.

When you work your way up to adding weight to the bar, you'll understand.

Quote from: Get Rowdy on February 03, 2008, 08:58:19 PM

Wrap a towel around the bar.

Tried this one and almost passed out from choking myself with a towel....

Fulgorre · « **Reply #58 on:** February 03, 2008, 09:03:13 PM »

The answer is....YES you can get great legs w/o squats!

But only with enough anabolics!

The Master · « **Reply #59 on:** February 04, 2008, 03:24:25 AM »

Quote from: Jason Pegg on February 03, 2008, 08:37:26 PM

You've seen me with my shirt off?

Jason

No. Will that sight kill Debussey?

Are you saying that you are 20%bf at 300 pounds naturally? That puts you at 240 pounds of lean mass

MarvinEderFan · « **Reply #60 on:** February 04, 2008, 04:17:38 AM »

Tom Platz did olympic squats - more knee flexion - more stress on quads.
DeMayo did squats with raised heels = more knee flexion - more stress on quads.

Playboy · « **Reply #61 on:** February 04, 2008, 05:19:46 AM »

Quote from: therealyoungguns on February 03, 2008, 04:21:46 PM

I've worked my way up to over 285x6 ATF squats, but there's a problem with my knee now and I'm not sure when it, or if it will ever get better. Can you build a great pair of legs with alternatives?

Yes. Leg presses and hack squats.

MarvinEderFan · « **Reply #62 on:** February 04, 2008, 05:21:45 AM »

therealyoung>

Your knee pain issue MIGHT be treated my the following:
- stretch your rectus femoris
- terminal knee extensions
- Peterson step-ups
- stretching your patella ligaments.

Hope that helps.

local hero · « **Reply #63 on:** February 04, 2008, 10:40:41 AM »

my knees are fucked from yrs of squating,,, id advise anyone who can handle 4 plates to ditch them and go for safer alternatives...

BFP · « **Reply #64 on:** February 04, 2008, 12:01:24 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on February 04, 2008, 03:24:25 AM

No. Will that sight kill Debussey?

Are you saying that you are 20%bf at 300 pounds naturally? That puts you at 240 pounds of lean mass

Thats exactly what Im saying. Got a thick bone structure too, and Im 6'1. NOthing earth shattering.

Jason

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #65 on:** February 04, 2008, 12:08:38 PM »

Quote from: Jason Pegg on February 03, 2008, 08:38:00 PM

crazy

Jason

Just trying to clarify, is the poundage crazy or is it crazy to develop legs with such light poundage? I'm confused.

Anyway, I've never killed myself with poundage on legs. Even with leg presses when I worked up to 13-14 plates I'd do 20 reps...until I tore my quad. That's when I started doing sissy squats and front squats and I found my developement improved.

medz zeppelin · « **Reply #66 on:** February 04, 2008, 12:15:57 PM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on February 04, 2008, 12:08:38 PM

Just trying to clarify, is the poundage crazy or is it crazy to develop legs with such light poundage? I'm confused.

Anyway, I've never killed myself with poundage on legs. Even with leg presses when I worked up to 13-14 plates I'd do 20 reps...until I tore my quad. That's when I started doing sissy squats and front squats and I found my developement improved.

13-14 plates of what? quarters

Mars · « **Reply #67 on:** February 04, 2008, 12:17:16 PM »

id love to pound something else guys.

Bobby · « **Reply #68 on:** February 04, 2008, 12:32:04 PM »

Quote from: Mars on February 04, 2008, 12:17:16 PM

id love to pound something else guys.

your avatar is cool! is that the kinda porn you favor?

kyomu · « **Reply #69 on:** February 04, 2008, 12:39:03 PM »

Basicaly you can grow up with anyexercise if your mind is in it.
ButI think I wouldnt have had legs of now without doing heavy deep squat.

Rudee · « **Reply #70 on:** February 04, 2008, 01:06:39 PM »

There was a black bodybuilder back in the 80's named JJ Marsh. He had enormous shredded quads. He mentioned his thighs really took off when he started training legs three times a week. I thought I would give it a try and train legs 3 times a week (10 sets of 10 on squats) to see what would happen. Well, it worked and my weak point became my strong point. I no longer train quads 3 times a week because it's brutally hard but I would recommend a hard gainer to give it a try for a month or so. Be sure to take in plenty of calories. This was back in the early 90's when I experimented with this routine, but I recall putting on around 4" on my thighs in under a year, with just squats and lying hamstring curls.

kyomu · « **Reply #71 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:35:12 AM »

Quote from: Rudee on February 04, 2008, 01:06:39 PM

There was a black bodybuilder back in the 80's named JJ Marsh. He had enormous shredded quads. He mentioned his thighs really took off when he started training legs three times a week. I thought I would give it a try and train legs 3 times a week (10 sets of 10 on squats) to see what would happen. Well, it worked and my weak point became my strong point. I no longer train quads 3 times a week because it's brutally hard but I would recommend a hard gainer to give it a try for a month or so. Be sure to take in plenty of calories. This was back in the early 90's when I experimented with this routine, but I recall putting on around 4" on my thighs in under a year, with just squats and lying hamstring curls.

Interesting post. Worth trying.
I also remember JJ had big quads....

KillerMonk · « **Reply #72 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:55:37 AM »

Quote from: Playboy on February 04, 2008, 05:19:46 AM

Yes. Leg presses and hack squats.

Agreed, Also does heavy squatting add inches to your obliques, correct me if im wrong, a few months ago luckly i was in the cage with 3 plates aside and my knee gave way and bam crash i was on my arse, i,ll stick to Legpress,Leg extensions and leg curls.

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #73 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:32:18 AM »

Quote from: Get Rowdy on February 03, 2008, 08:58:19 PM

Wrap a towel around the bar.

This is only for girls to do. Any guy who does it is a sissy. If you cant deal with the heavy bar on your back then just forget about doing it anyhow cause you will not work hard enough at the squat anyhow. You just dont have it in you.

If you learn to squat correctly it is one of the safest excersises. Dont be a knee squatter, use a shoulder width stance and get to at least parralel. Nothing builds the whole leg better, squats build hams and glutes to levels you will never achive doing only leg presses or hacks.

Get Rowdy · « **Reply #74 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:02:13 PM »

Quote from: Luv2Hurt on February 05, 2008, 04:32:18 AM

This is only for girls to do. Any guy who does it is a sissy. If you cant deal with the heavy bar on your back then just forget about doing it anyhow cause you will not work hard enough at the squat anyhow. You just dont have it in you.

If you learn to squat correctly it is one of the safest excersises. Dont be a knee squatter, use a shoulder width stance and get to at least parralel. Nothing builds the whole leg better, squats build hams and glutes to levels you will never achive doing only leg presses or hacks.

We were talking about front squats, moron. Learn to read.