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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2008, 12:58:18 PM »
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2008, 12:59:03 PM »
Looked good in 93 and 94, but torn up body parts in every other Olympia.

Plus his legs got smaller and his left arm looked like it belonged to Tamali.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2008, 12:59:33 PM »
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2008, 01:01:20 PM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on February 16, 2008, 12:59:03 PM
Looked good in 93 and 94, but torn up body parts in every other Olympia.

Plus his legs got smaller and his left arm looked like it belonged to Tamali.
I totally agree 93 was his best year and could take out anybody current and past.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2008, 01:02:29 PM »
Dorian > Heath

Heath looks a little smooth
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2008, 01:05:13 PM »
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2008, 01:41:29 PM »


Heath compared to dorian's best ever shape in 93:
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2008, 01:43:16 PM »
Phil has superior quads, arms, delts and hammies. He's not as wide as Dorian though.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2008, 01:46:43 PM »
Depends on what kind of physique you prefer. Dorian would just dominate with density, pure size and dryness without equal. Phil is like a delicate flower compared to Yates. Phil has the arms that just jump out at you when he hits pose. Different physiques. But to me Phil isn't in Dorian's league.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2008, 01:49:53 PM »
Phil looks great and has better arms than Doz, but there's no way he is bigger overall than Yates. Standing by themselves, Shawn and Flex look huge too, but next to Yates, they look smaller cause of the difference in height, frame and bodyweight. In that 96 shot, Dorian doesn't look as good as Phil, but if we are talking 93, it's lights out.

Compare Phil's lat spread with this
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2008, 01:53:55 PM »
Yates' back is like two of Phil's backs put together.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2008, 01:54:17 PM »
Phil Heath is definitely the real deal, but comparing him to Dorian at this stage of his development is not really fair.  I saw the 97 O and anyone who was there can attest to Dorian, even at his worst, destroying the competition-Dorian is a super wide man, with unparalleled hardness.  Phil's genetics are very much like a slightly larger Shawn Ray, and I think seeing him standing next to Victor at the O will determine who will be the next multi Olympia winner (but likely not this year's winner).  To put the level of competition into perspective, Phil on his best day (to this point) would've placed only 4th at the 99 English Gran Prix behind Coleman, Wheeler, and Levrone; and if Cormier had competed, he'd have been placed behind him as well.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2008, 01:55:19 PM »
If you're gonna talk about Brits, then I suggest shoutouts to Scott Alexander aka Mr. Fake Chest Guido with a net worth of a 100 million.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2008, 01:57:04 PM »
Quote from: The Squadfather on February 16, 2008, 12:31:05 PM
hahhahaa, this bodyweight bullshit cracks me up, i don't care if Dorian weighed in at 360 on a scale, Phil still looks twice his size, the hardness and dryness shit makes me laugh as well, genetically Dorian is a Volkswagon and Phil is a Rolls Royce.
Hmmm. Where in the auto world would this put you?  :D

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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2008, 01:58:06 PM »
Quote from: fitfactoryguy on February 16, 2008, 01:54:17 PM
Phil Heath is definitely the real deal, but comparing him to Dorian at this stage of his development is not really fair.  I saw the 97 O and anyone who was there can attest to Dorian, even at his worst, destroying the competition-Dorian is a super wide man, with unparalleled hardness.  Phil's genetics are very much like a slightly larger Shawn Ray, and I think seeing him standing next to Victor at the O will determine who will be the next multi Olympia winner (but likely not this year's winner).  To put the level of competition into perspective, Phil on his best day (to this point) would've placed only 4th at the 99 English Gran Prix behind Coleman, Wheeler, and Levrone; and if Cormier had competed, he'd have been placed behind him as well.

Exactly! Judging from pics, esp when they showcase each guy individually can be very misleading. If taken from a proper angle and closeness, Shawn Ray can be made to look like he's 6 feet and 250 lbs.

Dorian's frame was massive and there's no comparison between him and Phil. That doesn't take anything away from Phil who has done an incredible job with his physique and has better arms overall. But there's no doubt that he'd get dwarfed by the great Yates
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2008, 01:59:14 PM »
On a serious note, 93 Dorian was immaculate.
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2008, 02:03:39 PM »
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on February 16, 2008, 01:59:14 PM
On a serious note, 93 Dorian was immaculate.

The second pic is actually from the 1995 Mr O. These are 93
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Re: POLL:HEATH VS. DORIAN, WHO LOOKS BIGGER, BETTER, MORE CONDITIONED????
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2008, 02:08:41 PM »
Quote from: kiwiol on February 16, 2008, 02:03:39 PM
The second pic is actually from the 1995 Mr O. These are 93

Too bad Yates didn't look too good when he wasn't striking a pose.

That side-tri shot I posted and the shots of him at 269 pounds a few weeks out are insane though.

Here's one from 93.
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