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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2008, 09:02:22 AM »





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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2008, 09:04:48 AM »
In politics, money talks and bullshit walks. I still stand by my opinion earlier because if you think for one second that Silda is not staying with him for $$$ then you're living in a fantasy land.

But the subject at hand is not politics, it is the Spitzer marriage. His political career is most likely over, ...for a few years anyway.
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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2008, 09:11:04 AM »
Who is that?  She has HUGE eyeballs.  :P
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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2008, 09:13:42 AM »
Who is that?  She has HUGE eyeballs.  :P
one hit wonder.................. .she sang that song live at Tantra



pretty good! 

(i was on like 20 hits of E tho.................2 dogs howling prolly sound good to me then!)

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2008, 09:25:22 AM »
one hit wonder.................. .she sang that song live at Tantra



pretty good! 

(i was on like 20 hits of E tho.................2 dogs howling prolly sound good to me then!)
20 hits?  :o   It's a wonder you have any brain function.
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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2008, 10:00:26 AM »
Only if there was a pre-nup.  Otherwise...his ass is grass.  >:(
You are right there....there is no room for infidilty.

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2008, 10:14:36 AM »
Are people judging Silda?  I haven't seen that.

Yep... and they are still doing it...


What Was Silda Spitzer Thinking?

Once, just once, wouldn’t you love to see the politician up there at the lectern sweating bullets, apologizing for letting down his wife and family …. alone?

Once, just once, wouldn’t you love to see the wife issuing her own statement saying that what he had done was unacceptable and that she was leaving him?

Wouldn’t that be morally correct?

But instead, again and again, we see the pathetic, ravaged faces of these women victims, standing supportively beside their husbands as they allow themselves to be excruciatingly humiliated in front of the whole world.

We really haven’t come a long way baby, have we? Certainly not in the case of women married to elected officials.

For the past few days since the Spitzer scandal broke, all anyone has been talking about is why? Why would a guy with a fabulous education, brilliant career, powerful position, beautiful and brainy wife and a lovely family, risk losing everything for a couple of evenings with a hooker.

I’m asking why, too. Why would a beautiful and brainy wife with three wonderful children allow herself to be put in this hideous situation for even 49 seconds -- the time it took to apologize. Much less do it all over again two days later when her husband resigned as New York’s governor.

I know why he did what he did. Because he could. Arrogance and power are a lethal combination, and men who combine both often begin to believe in their own invincibility.

The more baffling question to me is why she did it. All I could think of, watching Silda Spitzer’s defeated expression, was of Taliban women covered from head to toe in burqa, standing a few paces behind their men, appendages to their all powerful husbands. Or Indian women committing sati, throwing themselves on their husband’s funeral pyre.

American women are so quick to criticize the religious tradition of others, where women take a subservient position – but are we so different? That’s not what the Spitzer scandal suggests.

One can only assume that the women who do this are just as enamored of the power and the position as their men. Of course their power is derivative, which makes it all the more difficult to lose. (It was reported that Silda Spitzer did not want her husband to resign.) Would Hillary Clinton have run for the Senate or even President had she not stood by her man after the Monica Lewinsky episode and insisted he not resign? We’ll never know.

I have been writing about this for decades. I could run a story I wrote in the seventies today and it would read exactly the same way. Remember Mrs. Gary Hart, Mrs. Bob Livingston, Mrs. Larry Craig, Mrs. David Vitter? Certainly Hillary Clinton comes to mind as a competent and successful woman in her own right, standing next to her husband over and over again as he lied to her and to the country about his dalliances. It is such a demeaning role for women to play and one that should have stopped a long time ago.

Think of the message this image sends -- not to just adults, but to young children, both boys and girls. For young girls, it says this is an acceptable role for women -- to be lied to, cheated on, disrespected and humiliated in public/ You take it and must still be supportive. because that is what is expected of women.

For boys, it says it’s okay to lie and cheat and dishonor your family, and you might grow up to be a senator or a governor or a president. You can get away with it.

I know that many women are supportive of those who stand by their man, for no other stated reason than to keep the family together. Imagine, though, the scars that the children will suffer from getting conflicting messages. Surely they are taught to be honest and to honor their family, but suddenly it is also to do as I say and not what I do.

Shouldn’t we expect that anyone who betrays his family and the public trust to pay the consequences for his actions?

That is why these wives must stop standing supportively next to their husbands as they confess and explain and apologize. They are just as enabling of them in their shame as they were in their glory.

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/sally_quinn/2008/03/what_was_silda_spitzer_thinkin.html

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2008, 11:37:37 AM »
In all honesty, who cares. There will always be corruption in politics. Look at Clinton? He went through simular crap. A scandal is a scandal. If she chooses to stay with him even knowing full well that he's been with other women, then that's her cross to bare. Its their marriage and their life.

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2008, 01:01:23 PM »
She should thank her lucky stars for a man like Spitz!

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2008, 01:04:27 PM »
She should thank her lucky stars for a man like Spitz!

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2008, 01:21:01 PM »
Yep... and they are still doing it...


What Was Silda Spitzer Thinking?

Once, just once, wouldn’t you love to see the politician up there at the lectern sweating bullets, apologizing for letting down his wife and family …. alone?

Once, just once, wouldn’t you love to see the wife issuing her own statement saying that what he had done was unacceptable and that she was leaving him?

Sally Quinn is forgetting about that wife in Europe... I can't remember if it was Berlusconi's or someone else's who wrote a letter to the editor of the national newspaper excoriating her husband for some innappropriate public remarks he made about another women. She described his comments as both sexist, and demeaning to all women, and particularly offensive & humiliating to her, and demanded a public apology and for him to conduct himself in a manner more worthy of her, her children, and the office he held. To top it off, the letter was sent to the editor of a rival newspaper to the one her husband owned. She roasted his cohones and stood up for herself in a way that was a PR nightmare for him. I can only imgine how uncomfortable she made it for him BEHIND closed doors. {lol}
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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2008, 01:26:31 PM »
GEEZ   , an apology for disparaging remarks  ::)



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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2008, 01:28:41 PM »
Sally Quinn is forgetting about that wife in Europe... I can't remember if it was Berlusconi's or someone else's who wrote a letter to the editor of the national newspaper excoriating her husband for some innappropriate public remarks he made about another women. She described his comments as both sexist, and demeaning to all women, and particularly offensive & humiliating to her, and demanded a public apology and for him to conduct himself in a manner more worthy of her, her children, and the office he held. To top it off, the letter was sent to the editor of a rival newspaper to the one her husband owned. She roasted his cohones and stood up for herself in a way that was a PR nightmare for him. I can only imgine how uncomfortable she made it for him BEHIND closed doors. {lol}

I believe it was in Italy and the man was none other than (former prime minister) Silvio Berlusconi a consumate womanizer.  His wife took out an ad in the paper excoriating him for his bad behavior and demanding an apology. Which he promptly provided.

Now that's whip appeal!  :)

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2008, 02:07:54 PM »
I believe it was in Italy and the man was none other than (former prime minister) Silvio Berlusconi a consumate womanizer.  His wife took out an ad in the paper excoriating him for his bad behavior and demanding an apology. Which he promptly provided.

Now that's whip appeal!  :)

Silvio Berlusconi, ...the poster boy for men who behave badly. I can only imagine what she must have had to endure over the years. Talk about feeding 2 birds with one worm. Newspaper sales skyrocketed, but it was the rival newspaper that benefitted from the skyrocketing sales.
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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2008, 02:35:37 PM »
Silvio Berlusconi, ...the poster boy for men who behave badly. I can only imagine what she must have had to endure over the years. Talk about feeding 2 birds with one worm. Newspaper sales skyrocketed, but it was the rival newspaper that benefitted from the skyrocketing sales.

There's things that really should be kept private between husbands and wives  :-\

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2008, 02:42:51 PM »
There's things that really should be kept private between husbands and wives  :-\

I agree, but in Mrs. Berlusconi's case, ...I think she had just had enough.
It was clear the private communication hadn't done much to resolve the problem.
I guess she decided to tackle the problem using a different approach, which was evidently very effective.

Personally, I don't have much of a problem with someone who decides to air his/her dirty laundry in public.
As someone party to the situation that's her right to do I suppose. I just have a problem with it when someone outside of the situation takes it upon themselves to air someone else's dirty laundry in public.
It's like we've turned into a society of self-righteous & sanctimonious tabloid reporters. That, I don't believe they have the right to do.
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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2008, 04:25:51 PM »
Silvio Berlusconi, ...the poster boy for men who behave badly. I can only imagine what she must have had to endure over the years. Talk about feeding 2 birds with one worm. Newspaper sales skyrocketed, but it was the rival newspaper that benefitted from the skyrocketing sales.

Being a vain billionaire and leader of a country must have fed his ego like nothing else.  Like you, I think his wife simply had enough.  Even in his 60s Berlusconi was having cosmetic surgery to look more fetching to voters and women.  How could his poor wife (or anyone) compete with that guy's ego?

I think (a big) ego is the common element in all these cases: Vitter, Clinton, Spitzer, Berlusconi...  Let's face it, a shrinking violet is not going into politics.

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2008, 04:39:03 PM »
I agree, but in Mrs. Berlusconi's case, ...I think she had just had enough.
It was clear the private communication hadn't done much to resolve the problem.
I guess she decided to tackle the problem using a different approach, which was evidently very effective.

Personally, I don't have much of a problem with someone who decides to air his/her dirty laundry in public.
As someone party to the situation that's her right to do I suppose. I just have a problem with it when someone outside of the situation takes it upon themselves to air someone else's dirty laundry in public.
It's like we've turned into a society of self-righteous & sanctimonious tabloid reporters. That, I don't believe they have the right to do.

Personally , I can live with every bit of my dirty laundry being aired on any headline.
I don't think any public representative that claims to represent a citizen in my country in any way has a right to expect anything less than full disclosure or suffer the consequences if it's found out by anyone else.

Self worth instead of self absorption

Self respect instead of self centered

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2008, 07:05:05 PM »
Personally , I can live with every bit of my dirty laundry being aired on any headline.
I don't think any public representative that claims to represent a citizen in my country in any way has a right to expect anything less than full disclosure or suffer the consequences if it's found out by anyone else.

Self worth instead of self absorption

Self respect instead of self centered

dignity not disgrace


Fair enough. When are you marching on Washington? ...Or is it Crawford?
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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2008, 02:33:24 AM »
Well, truth be told, hope he had his fun because if she does leave him....she's taking a whole lotta cash and leaving a funny looking, pathetic, obviously stupid, cheater of a man.  ;D

Does she have the moral right to "take a whole lotta cash"? Marriage is a business agreement, that's for sure. Specially when a woman is married to a rich fellow. He should have taken care of business before he got married, so that when they eventually divorce, the woman get the least amount of money possible. Even better is, don't marry if it doesn't benefit you (man) financially. A marriage just out of love is very risky.

A good woman is hard to find. I meet a lot of women who are definitely not marriage material.  :)

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2008, 07:31:44 AM »
Fair enough. When are you marching on Washington? ...Or is it Crawford?

 8)  I'm planning on Toronto , seems to be a need for some rational thinking up there moreso ,poor Playboy is all on his own  8)

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2008, 08:46:35 AM »
Random musings:

* Doesn't Silda look a lot like Annette Benning? Everyone said she looked horrid at the press conference, but since she had only found out about the outing a day earlier, I'm betting she did an awful lot of crying (for whatever reason), hence the haggard, puffy-eyed look.

* "The heart wants what the heart wants."  I think you can replace the word "heart" with another bodypart and that phrase still makes a lot of sense.

* Spitzer apparently had been enjoying little spa getaways for around ten years, the cost totaling in the vicinity of around $80,000. Since he was using the middle tier escorts (part of the $4,000 was a credit toward future trysts) if you estimate each tryst at roughly $2500 that would mean he was using hookers on average 3 times per year. Not so bad considering he could have been giving his illicit love to a mistress 3 times per week for ten years.

* It seems to be a rule of thumb that the louder a public figure screams about some moral issue, the more likely he is engaging in the same activity.

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2008, 08:54:04 AM »
Does she have the moral right to "take a whole lotta cash"? Marriage is a business agreement, that's for sure. Specially when a woman is married to a rich fellow. He should have taken care of business before he got married, so that when they eventually divorce, the woman get the least amount of money possible. Even better is, don't marry if it doesn't benefit you (man) financially. A marriage just out of love is very risky.

A good woman is hard to find. I meet a lot of women who are definitely not marriage material.  :)

Is it moral that he still has the right whether or not to offer her a get? Marriage may be a business agreement, but it's funny how when women vigorously pursue a career throughout their marriage they're called ball-busting bull dykes? If they stay at home they're called gold diggers. Who can win?  :)

Divorce laws were put into place to protect lower income families. Most divorces occur within the splitting up of modest assets, women usually end up with the children, and the courts try to ensure that the children don't suffer. Those laws are applied across the board, which is why the divorces of the wealthy tend to elicit such outrage. But the laws are also applied to women as well as men, and wealthy women pay off their husbands too.

What is a good woman? Someone who will stand by your side for twenty years, put her own career on hold to bear your children, then go quietly off into the night with nothing if you decide you no longer care for her?  :)

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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2008, 09:13:15 AM »
Random musings:

* Doesn't Silda look a lot like Annette Benning?

I think she looks a lot like Rita Wilson (Tom Hanks' wife).  I guess Tom Hanks also looks a little like Spitzer.



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Re: Silda Spitzer
« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2008, 09:26:19 AM »
WoW STella that's wierd , I didn't even see it till now   :o good one !!