The truth about Venezuela

[loco]

[Dos Equis]

Is all of this a result of Chavez? 

[War-Horse]

Chavez is a damn graffitti artist!! 

[Hugo Chavez]

Chavez is a damn graffitti artist!! 

LOL

[Hugo Chavez]

Is all of this a result of Chavez? 

You're going to have a real hard time understaning anything based in reality in terms of single sentence responses and 1 to 3 minute video clips   No this is not all the result of Chavez.  I guess you'll just have to take my word for it, or not.

[kh300]

You're going to have a real hard time understaning anything based in reality in terms of single sentence responses and 1 to 3 minute video clips   No this is not all the result of Chavez.  I guess you'll just have to take my word for it, or not.

so are you saying the leader of a country isnt fully responsible for its problems?

[Hugo Chavez]

so are you saying the leader of a country isnt fully responsible for its problems?

for all of it's problems, hell fucking no, not even Bush.  I would never say that and anybody who does is stupid as fuck.  When you assign blame you should be able to make the connect and be able to consider all the factors.

[loco]

for all of it's problems, hell fucking no, not even Bush.  I would never say that and anybody who does is stupid as fuck.  When you assign blame you should be able to make the connect and be able to consider all the factors.

But Chavez, you dominate the legislature, the judiciary, the Moral Republican Council (a citizens’ power introduced by you), and the national electoral authority.  You also have the power to replace the Venezuelan constitution since you've already done just that.  So you can do pretty much whatever you want in order to help the country, but you have not. 
http://web.archive.org/web/20030604104250/http://economist.com/countries/Venezuela/profile.cfm?folder=Profile-FactSheet

You have denied Venezuelans liberties, but "only temporarily in order to speed up reform" according to you. 

Oil prices have been at an all time high, which means a great deal of wealth for Venezuela, but where has all that money gone?  Where is the money Chavez?  Show me the money Chavez.  You've been in power since 1999, plenty of time for your so called reform, yet the many poor in Venezuela are still poor, and the ones who can afford it are leaving the country.  The economy has continued to deteriorate which has lead to a rise in crime.
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=5526589 

You brought mediocre doctors from Cuba and gave them jobs that belong to great, much better qualified Venezuelan doctors.  But that's okay since those Cuban doctors fled to Colombia and later to Miami.  Things must be grim in Cuba.
http://www.2001.com.ve/registro_noticias.asp?registro=81599&sw=1

Whose fault is it Chavez?  There is no US embargo to blame.  There are no UN sanctions to blame.  Whose fault is it?  Show me the money Chavez.

[War-Horse]

But Chavez, you dominate the legislature, the judiciary, the Moral Republican Council (a citizens’ power introduced by you), and the national electoral authority.  You also have the power to replace the Venezuelan constitution since you've already done just that.  So you can do pretty much whatever you want in order to help the country, but you have not. 
http://web.archive.org/web/20030604104250/http://economist.com/countries/Venezuela/profile.cfm?folder=Profile-FactSheet

You have denied Venezuelans liberties, but "only temporarily in order to speed up reform" according to you. 

Oil prices have been at an all time high, which means a great deal of wealth for Venezuela, but where has all that money gone?  Where is the money Chavez?  Show me the money Chavez.  You've been in power since 1999, plenty of time for your so called reform, yet the many poor in Venezuela are still poor, and the ones who can afford it are leaving the country.  The economy has continued to deteriorate which has lead to a rise in crime.
http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=5526589 

You brought mediocre doctors from Cuba and gave them jobs that belong to great, much better qualified Venezuelan doctors.  But that's okay since those Cuban doctors fled to Colombia and later to Miami.  Things must be grim in Cuba.
http://www.2001.com.ve/registro_noticias.asp?registro=81599&sw=1

Whose fault is it Chavez?  There is no US embargo to blame.  There are no UN sanctions to blame.  Whose fault is it?  Show me the money Chavez.

You have succesfully explained the "Bush administration"..........Good job & Good luck.

[loco]

You have succesfully explained the "Bush administration"..........Good job & Good luck.

Hey War-Horse!

Can the the Bush Administration and has the Bush Administration replaced the US constitution?  Chavez replaced the Venezuelan constitution.

Can Bush make new laws?  Chavez makes laws since he controls the legislature.  Bush can Veto a bill, but the house and the senate can override his Veto.  Why don't they?  Chavez won't veto his own bills.

Does Bush interpret law?  Chavez does since he controls the judiciary.  So anything goes.

Like it or not, the US still has checks and balances.  If Bush has done more than he should have the power to do, it is because the American people have allowed him to.  Look at how many reps voted to go to war, except Ron Paul and maybe a few others.

And as for some of your problems in the US, like gas prices, you can't blame Bush for everything:

Chavez has gained a reputation as a price hawk in OPEC, pushing for stringent enforcement of production quotas and higher target oil prices. At a June 2006 meeting, Venezuela was the only OPEC country calling for lowered production to drive oil prices higher.

[War-Horse]

Hey War-Horse!

Can the the Bush Administration and has the Bush Administration replaced the US constitution?  Chavez replaced the Venezuelan constitution.

Can Bush makes new laws?  Chavez makes laws since he controls the judiciary.  Bush can Veto a bill, but the house and the senate can override his Veto.  Why don't they?  Chavez won't veto his own bills.

Does Bush interpret law?  Chavez does since he controls the judiciary.  So anything goes.

Like it or not, the US still has checks and balances.  If Bush has done more than he should have the power to do, it is because the American people have allowed him to.  Look at how many reps voted to go to war, except Ron Paul and maybe a few others.

And as for some of your problems in the US, like gas prices, you can't blame Bush for everything:

Chavez has gained a reputation as a price hawk in OPEC, pushing for stringent enforcement of production quotas and higher target oil prices. At a June 2006 meeting, Venezuela was the only OPEC country calling for lowered production to drive oil prices higher.

Yes. 

 and if not they will make a new law in the middle of the night when your sleeping and pass it, so it may exist.

[War-Horse]

Sorry, but our dictator is worse than your dictator.

[loco]

Sorry, but our dictator is worse than your dictator.

 

Funny, but if the US had ever lived under a true dictatorship, like Venezuela has several times in its history and like Cuba, then I guarantee you wouldn't be saying this.  Despite your troubles, you have no idea how blessed your are.

[War-Horse]

Funny, but if the US had ever lived under a true dictatorship, like Venezuela has several times in its history and like Cuba, then I guarantee you wouldn't be saying this.  Despite your troubles, you have no idea how blessed your are.

i agree with you.    I just hate to see us going down a path of fascism little by little.   Everyone is watching a superpower come to its knees because of the bigger plan of globalization and new world order.

I can only say that god is watching the injustice of the poor and he will remember to take vengence.....


(Cue) Deicide to ask what is god......

[Dos Equis]

Hey War-Horse!

Can the the Bush Administration and has the Bush Administration replaced the US constitution?  Chavez replaced the Venezuelan constitution.

Can Bush make new laws?  Chavez makes laws since he controls the legislature.  Bush can Veto a bill, but the house and the senate can override his Veto.  Why don't they?  Chavez won't veto his own bills.

Does Bush interpret law?  Chavez does since he controls the judiciary.  So anything goes.

Like it or not, the US still has checks and balances.  If Bush has done more than he should have the power to do, it is because the American people have allowed him to.  Look at how many reps voted to go to war, except Ron Paul and maybe a few others.

And as for some of your problems in the US, like gas prices, you can't blame Bush for everything:

Chavez has gained a reputation as a price hawk in OPEC, pushing for stringent enforcement of production quotas and higher target oil prices. At a June 2006 meeting, Venezuela was the only OPEC country calling for lowered production to drive oil prices higher.

The answer is "no" to all.   

[Colossus_500]

Hey War-Horse!

Can the the Bush Administration and has the Bush Administration replaced the US constitution?  Chavez replaced the Venezuelan constitution.

Can Bush make new laws?  Chavez makes laws since he controls the legislature.  Bush can Veto a bill, but the house and the senate can override his Veto.  Why don't they?  Chavez won't veto his own bills.

Does Bush interpret law?  Chavez does since he controls the judiciary.  So anything goes.

Like it or not, the US still has checks and balances.  If Bush has done more than he should have the power to do, it is because the American people have allowed him to.  Look at how many reps voted to go to war, except Ron Paul and maybe a few others.

And as for some of your problems in the US, like gas prices, you can't blame Bush for everything:

Chavez has gained a reputation as a price hawk in OPEC, pushing for stringent enforcement of production quotas and higher target oil prices. At a June 2006 meeting, Venezuela was the only OPEC country calling for lowered production to drive oil prices higher.

well said, Loco.

[loco]

The answer is "no" to all.   

That's what I thought.   

[loco]

well said, Loco.

Thanks Colossus!   

[War-Horse]

Hey War-Horse!

Can the the Bush Administration and has the Bush Administration replaced the US constitution?  Chavez replaced the Venezuelan constitution.

Can Bush make new laws?  Chavez makes laws since he controls the legislature.  Bush can Veto a bill, but the house and the senate can override his Veto.  Why don't they?  Chavez won't veto his own bills.

Does Bush interpret law?  Chavez does since he controls the judiciary.  So anything goes.

Like it or not, the US still has checks and balances.  If Bush has done more than he should have the power to do, it is because the American people have allowed him to.  Look at how many reps voted to go to war, except Ron Paul and maybe a few others.

And as for some of your problems in the US, like gas prices, you can't blame Bush for everything:

Chavez has gained a reputation as a price hawk in OPEC, pushing for stringent enforcement of production quotas and higher target oil prices. At a June 2006 meeting, Venezuela was the only OPEC country calling for lowered production to drive oil prices higher.

So far, our dictator has done most of those things.  Once he finds out he's behind Chavez.....he'll catch up quickly.      Answer: YES

[loco]

So far, our dictator has done most of those things.  Once he finds out he's behind Chavez.....he'll catch up quickly.      Answer: YES

Bush has done most of those things?  Like what?

And you can't call Bush a dictator until he takes control of all branches of government and stays in office after his term is up.

[Dos Equis]

Bush has done most of those things?  Like what?

And you can't call Bush a dictator until he takes control of all branches of government and stays in office after his term is up.

The Bush Administration has not replaced the U.S. Constitution or the state constitutions in the 50 states, some of which provide even more rights than the U.S. Constitution. 

The president cannot sign any legislation unless a bill passes out of both the House and Senate.  He can sign executive orders, but I don't believe executive orders can conflict with the law.   

The president follows the law, the judiciary interprets the law.  On more than one occasion, the president has been checked by the judiciary.  Our system is just fine and is nothing like Venezuela.   

[War-Horse]

Bush has done most of those things?  Like what?

And you can't call Bush a dictator until he takes control of all branches of government and stays in office after his term is up.

he controls most offices.   Including attorney generals.   However he will remain in office if he can cheat Mccain into the election.....

[loco]

he controls most offices.   Including attorney generals.   However he will remain in office if he can cheat Mccain into the election.....

Which offices?  He does not control the legislature or judiciary.  Americans are mad at Bush for going to war in Iraq, yet if congress had voted not to go to war in Iraq, Bush could not have gone to war in Iraq.  Some who voted to go to war now say Bush lied to them?  Yeah right.  Those people need to assume some responsibility and stop saying "Bush made me do it." 

So McCain being elected president automatically makes Bush a dictator?

[War-Horse]

Which offices?  He does not control the legislature or judiciary.  Americans are mad at Bush for going to war in Iraq, yet if congress had voted not to go to war in Iraq, Bush could not have gone to war in Iraq.  Some who voted to go to war now say Bush lied to them?  Yeah right.  Those people need to assume some responsibility and stop saying "Bush made me do it." 

So McCain being elected president automatically makes Bush a dictator?

He lied to get us into the war.  Gave the congress false info...common knowledge now.  Iraq had NOTHING to do with getting the taliban or al quieda.    The UN has pressured the US to collapse the dollar thru the economy...to incorporate us into the NWO.   We have staged events happening all around us.   Those that continue to deny will continue to see proof all around them that this is going to plan.....

[loco]

He lied to get us into the war.  Gave the congress false info...common knowledge now.  Iraq had NOTHING to do with getting the taliban or al quieda.    The UN has pressured the US to collapse the dollar thru the economy...to incorporate us into the NWO.   We have staged events happening all around us.   Those that continue to deny will continue to see proof all around them that this is going to plan.....

You've been reading this?

Bush takes over US
This conspiracy theory alleges that George W Bush will take dictatorship of US[19] and needs four things to be true, assuming 9/11 was a false flag operation:

1. Reinvent martial law to remove Habeas corpus - Military Commissions Act

2. Continuity of government during emergencies, even after term ends, and make 'executive orders' absolute law[20] -
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive

3. Another false flag operation to happen so that martial law can be declared

4. An enemy to blame and declare war - Iran or North Korea

If implemented Bush can even disband Congress (legislative branch).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_%28conspiracy_theory%29#Bush_takes_over_US